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Couple things I haven't heard anyone mention:

1. How much air pressure does a ball typically lose over the course of a game? You've got a football which has been aggressively handled pre-game (legalyl), to get it "sticky" enough for the QB. Every running play, it's being slammed by 250# men running into each other - the ball's in the middle of every collision. Valve's aren't perfect; just like with Hoppy' pee-pee, you'd expect a little bit of leakage.

2. How accurate are the gauges used by the officials to measure the pressure? Old-school dials, or digital?

3. Every time I've inserted a needle to pump up a ball, a little air has leaked out. Not a ton, but enough, I'd guess, to account for 0.1 or 0.2 PSI. You can't measure the pressure of the ball without altering the pressure of the ball.

4. How certain are we that the officials actually pumped the balls up to exactly 12.5 PSI to begin with? This has never been an issue before; how precise were they being? If they know the Pats wanted the balls to be on the low end of the legal range, how do we know if they were exactly 12.5, or maybe they were 12.3 or 12.4 and no one cared?

The balls are getting warmed up as they prep them, before the officials pump them up to 12.5 PSI. Everything the Pats (legally) do to prepare the balls for the game is going to involve friction - getting the slickness off the ball's surface. So, the balls will be a little warm when they're pumped up. Maybe they aren't pumped all the way to 12.5 - maybe it's 12.4. They lose a little pressure because it's getting colder. They're being knocked around, so maybe a little air leaks out from the valve. They get checked at halftime, and a little air leaks out when they're measured. Maybe the pressure gauge is off by a small amount.

The one question that I would LOVE to have an answer on - what usually happens? Have officials ever checked the pressure on the game balls at halftime before? How did those readings compare to the pre-game readings?

There's a lot of little things, nothing that alone would account for 2.0 PSI (was it 2.0? They've said "about two." Was it closer to 1.5?). Every one of these little things, the net result is going to be a little bit pressure. So, short of some actual evidence of intent - some ballboy breaking under pressure, or a fan with a camera catching a peek at some shenanigans, or anything else - can people please just shut the **** up and let's actually talk about the mother****ing football game?
 
^^ There hasn't been a ****ing article written anywhere about football that's not about this ****ing non-issue. I mean, it's the time of year when we're supposed to learn about LeGarrett Blount's pee wee coach, and Julian Edelman's grandma's oatmeal-raisin cookies.
 
BB didn't say he thinks the climate could have changed it or he thinks atmospheric pressure had anything to do with it or he thinks playing a game decreasing psi. The Pats actually did it. They did everything they would in a game. They prepped the ball the same, they inflated them to 12.5psi after that, they played a game, they measured the psi after. I don't care what an old TV scientist has to say about it being true or not, the Pats proved it by actually doing it.

It is funny how people talk sh!t about something but don't use evidence to back it up. It is one thing to say the climate may have changed the psi or not. It is completely different to actually go out and test it like the Pats did. Now people say BB is lying. Blah blah blah just another reason for you haters to think of ways the Pats could be so dominating for so long. It is going to be funny when the NFL comes out and says the Pats didn't do anything wrong.

Pats dominate because they are #1. TB12 best QB of all time. Seattle doesn't stand a chance.


Just like OJ actually trying on the glove to PROVE it didn't fit to PROVE he didn't kill anybody.

Hey, the pats told us it occurred naturally so I think we should all drop the issue.
 
The folks saying Seattle won't be able to keep it together as players become free agents are absolutely right. Tarvaris Jackson is an unrestricted free agent next year. We're boned! lol
 
^^ There hasn't been a ****ing article written anywhere about football that's not about this ****ing non-issue. I mean, it's the time of year when we're supposed to learn about LeGarrett Blount's pee wee coach, and Julian Edelman's grandma's oatmeal-raisin cookies.

Just cuz the media has nothing better to talk about, doesn't mean we have to do the same. Sheesh.

There's a Pro Bowl going on to dissect.
 
That's an interesting point. You can't just pull a RW off the shelf. I thought it was funny when he got clocked last week. Investigative reporter Andrews said the coaches went over to check on him and quickly went away because he said he was OK. Not much of a concussion protocol. The interesting thing is the ability the Pats have been able to replace a HOFer. Good coaching, players and trainers. I hear Hasselback is available.
 
Stop the bull****. The balls COULD NOT HAVE NATURALLY deflated that much regardless of conditions. PERIOD!

I don't want anything to happen prior to the Super Bowl. I want the Hawks to stomp the crap out of the cheaters legit, then have the NFL do what is right and fine/penalize the **** out of the cheaters.

If the integrity of the game means ANYTHING, the NFL MUST do something or risk becoming the next WWF.
 
Oh my god! That offensive lineman held that linebacker!!!!!!!!! The rules are clear! The offense IS NOT ALLOWED to grab the shirts of the defense!!!!!! You saw it, right THERE, on the replay! Cheating!!!!!!! Kill the right guard. He's destroying the integrity of the game!!!!!!!!! Stone him!!

Every person in America agrees that the NFL has a stick up its azz about stupid stuff. "Omg. He has on golden cleats. Stone him!"

But when it comes to the Pats all rational thought goes out the window. Jeezuz, you guys sound like you haven't taken a good dump in six months and haven't gotten a ******** in even longer.

Brady likes his balls softer. Rodgers likes his balls harder. Manning likes his balls however he gets them. Lighten da fuq up! You sound line some f'ing Muslim jihadist. Death to the infidel Tom Brady,
 
Jeezus we have some stone-stoopid visitors this week.

Hoppy must've left the damned door unlocked and all his neighborhood friends are wandering in wondering what the grown-ups are doing.

Anyway...I just got done building a Lego Table for the grandkids, poured the first beer of the day (I was good! Power Tools + Beer = Trip To OR!) and flipped on the teevee, only to be greeted by the Technicolor Yawn that is the uniforms on these two sad teams.

Yikes! :drunk:

Is it ok if I "Adjust My Set"??

Cheers! ;)
 
Ray Lewis is sitting on a podium pontificating about honor, brotherhood and integrity. The man stabbed two guys to death, burned up his blood soaked suit, rolled over on the guys who helped him cover up the murder and bought off the families off the murdered men.

And he's calling Tom Brady dishonest for wanting his game balls to be softer than league standards.

Ya. Right.
 
Stop the bull****. The balls COULD NOT HAVE NATURALLY deflated that much regardless of conditions. PERIOD!

I don't want anything to happen prior to the Super Bowl. I want the Hawks to stomp the crap out of the cheaters legit, then have the NFL do what is right and fine/penalize the **** out of the cheaters.

If the integrity of the game means ANYTHING, the NFL MUST do something or risk becoming the next WWF.

Don't be silly. Bellyboy just proved beyond a doubt that all footballs lose 2 lbs of pressure between the start of a game and halftime.

Except for the 12th ball. That one is a magic ball and keeps it's pressure. But all other balls lose 2 lbs of pressure in the time it takes to play two quarters.

That's why all the footballs are nearly flat by the end of a football game even though nobody has ever noticed this before. But we all remember having to refill the air in our football 2 or 3 times a day so we could keep playing with it right? I mean... the vaunted leader of the clean-cut patties couldn't have just been pulling this stuff out of his azz, right?
 
Who said 2lbs? Mortensen? Just because that was the first report doesn't make it right. Not saying it is wrong either, but show me an NFL investigators report showing 2 lbs each. I think we all took the 2 lbs for fact, but I'm not sure it is.
 
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Couple things I haven't heard anyone mention:

1. How much air pressure does a ball typically lose over the course of a game? You've got a football which has been aggressively handled pre-game (legalyl), to get it "sticky" enough for the QB. Every running play, it's being slammed by 250# men running into each other - the ball's in the middle of every collision. Valve's aren't perfect; just like with Hoppy' pee-pee, you'd expect a little bit of leakage.

2. How accurate are the gauges used by the officials to measure the pressure? Old-school dials, or digital?

3. Every time I've inserted a needle to pump up a ball, a little air has leaked out. Not a ton, but enough, I'd guess, to account for 0.1 or 0.2 PSI. You can't measure the pressure of the ball without altering the pressure of the ball.

4. How certain are we that the officials actually pumped the balls up to exactly 12.5 PSI to begin with? This has never been an issue before; how precise were they being? If they know the Pats wanted the balls to be on the low end of the legal range, how do we know if they were exactly 12.5, or maybe they were 12.3 or 12.4 and no one cared?

The balls are getting warmed up as they prep them, before the officials pump them up to 12.5 PSI. Everything the Pats (legally) do to prepare the balls for the game is going to involve friction - getting the slickness off the ball's surface. So, the balls will be a little warm when they're pumped up. Maybe they aren't pumped all the way to 12.5 - maybe it's 12.4. They lose a little pressure because it's getting colder. They're being knocked around, so maybe a little air leaks out from the valve. They get checked at halftime, and a little air leaks out when they're measured. Maybe the pressure gauge is off by a small amount.

The one question that I would LOVE to have an answer on - what usually happens? Have officials ever checked the pressure on the game balls at halftime before? How did those readings compare to the pre-game readings?

There's a lot of little things, nothing that alone would account for 2.0 PSI (was it 2.0? They've said "about two." Was it closer to 1.5?). Every one of these little things, the net result is going to be a little bit pressure. So, short of some actual evidence of intent - some ballboy breaking under pressure, or a fan with a camera catching a peek at some shenanigans, or anything else - can people please just shut the **** up and let's actually talk about the mother****ing football game?

Holy hell...shut up. Guilty
 
Who said 2lbs? Mortensen? Just because that was the first report doesn't make it right. Not saying it is wrong either, but show me an NFL investigators report showing 2 lbs each. I think we all took the 2 lbs for fact, but I'm not sure it is.

holy ****....shut up about it already. You cheated, now shut up
 
Stop the bull****. The balls COULD NOT HAVE NATURALLY deflated that much regardless of conditions. PERIOD!

I don't want anything to happen prior to the Super Bowl. I want the Hawks to stomp the crap out of the cheaters legit, then have the NFL do what is right and fine/penalize the **** out of the cheaters.

If the integrity of the game means ANYTHING, the NFL MUST do something or risk becoming the next WWF.


(fart)
 
so if it's all related to the game and the weather and the players falling on the balls, how do the Green Bay Packers keep air in the footballs when they play in temps below 32? One would think that by the end of the first quarter all of the balls would be flat. I've seen teams play games in 10 degree weather and the balls don't seem to lose much air.

I'm not saying anyone cheating, it's just my observation
 
First person to guess how many candies in the jar, without going over, wins an ANDY DALTON PRO BOWL JERSEY!!

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