Not-So-Obnoxious Baseball Thread

[brettwasbtd]

End the challenge calls. Use the replay only to reverse calls that are obvious. No more challenge on the bang bang plays at first, decide on whether you want to protect collisions at the plate or not. End the transfer rule. A catch is a catch. I thought of a new scenario on the ridiculous new rules.

Men at 1st and 2nd no out.... Line drive to SS (1 out) who tags the runner off second (2nd out) and attempts to throw out the runner at first who fell down returning to the base. During the transfer to the throwing arm he drops the ball. Does this eliminate the two outs? Since the SS can still pick up the ball and throw to 1st (because the runner is laying on the ground) is it a triple play or one out. What is the call? The new rules suck. I find myself watching every catch to see if there will be a transfer. This is not what I've been watching for more than 50 years. I accept the calls in a game and I wouldn't mind seeing a way to reverse some calls. But this system is not the way to go.

Interesting scenario. Apply the transfer rule the tagged runer is out. His body came in contact with the ball through the tag. The SS can then pick up the ball and touch second for the force or throw to first to get the batter. Two outs either way. Can get a triple play if they are able to step on second and throws or batter out first

 

[iaefebs]

Interesting scenario. Apply the transfer rule the tagged runer is out. His body came in contact with the ball through the tag. The SS can then pick up the ball and touch second for the force or throw to first to get the batter. Two outs either way. Can get a triple play if they are able to step on second and throws or batter out first

Brett, I can't find the "tagged runner is out" by making contact with the ball rule. What would be the difference between tagging a base or the runner and dropping the ball afterwards on the exchange? Is it somewhere other than section 7? Good call on the fielder touching 2nd for the force out. It might be a better idea to throw to third instead of 1st and apply the tag to the confused runner from second who was tagged and thought he was out.

 

[hoppyhoppyhippo]

I don't like the direction that baseball is taking. I haven't watched football in years because of the rediculous fouls and reviews on nearly every play. The referees are lawyers for god's sake.

In baseball, if these reviews make the game much slower, people will tune out.

Reviews haven't made the game slower at all.

 

[HoppyDaze]

End the challenge calls. Use the replay only to reverse calls that are obvious. No more challenge on the bang bang plays at first, decide on whether you want to protect collisions at the plate or not. End the transfer rule. A catch is a catch. I thought of a new scenario on the ridiculous new rules.

Men at 1st and 2nd no out.... Line drive to SS (1 out) who tags the runner off second (2nd out) and attempts to throw out the runner at first who fell down returning to the base. During the transfer to the throwing arm he drops the ball. Does this eliminate the two outs? Since the SS can still pick up the ball and throw to 1st (because the runner is laying on the ground) is it a triple play or one out. What is the call? The new rules suck. I find myself watching every catch to see if there will be a transfer. This is not what I've been watching for more than 50 years. I accept the calls in a game and I wouldn't mind seeing a way to reverse some calls. But this system is not the way to go.

What if there was an eclipse at the same time and it was cinco de mayo?

 

[passedpawn]

Reviews haven't made the game slower at all.

Not at all?

 

[hoppyhoppyhippo]

Not at all?

Nope. You think a manager going out and arguing for 10 minutes speeds the game up?

 

[passedpawn]

Nope. You think a manager going out and arguing for 10 minutes speeds the game up?

Don't they still do that while waiting for the sign to throw the flag? That charade is annoying and sad.

 

[iaefebs]

What if there was an eclipse at the same time and it was cinco de mayo?

That's a easy question. There are no Eclipse scheduled for May the 5th anytime in the future.

http://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/solar.html

http://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/lunar.html

I think my scenario will happen sometime in the next couple months.

 

[brettwasbtd]

Brett, I can't find the "tagged runner is out" by making contact with the ball rule. What would be the difference between tagging a base or the runner and dropping the ball afterwards on the exchange? Is it somewhere other than section 7? Good call on the fielder touching 2nd for the force out. It might be a better idea to throw to third instead of 1st and apply the tag to the confused runner from second who was tagged and thought he was out.

Ya I guess you are right. Don't have my rule book by me. I know if a batted ball hits a base runner while in the base path they are out so I made the assumption a tag was the same.

They enforced this transfer rule again last night for the nationals game. Double play attempt the 2nd baseman clearly caught the ball while standing on second stepped off the bag and lost the handle gripping it to throw to first. All runners declared safe.

Maybe players need to start abusing the rule so the ump will stop the scrutiny

 

[brettwasbtd]

Article in the Washington post regarding the rule: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/nationals-journal/wp/2014/04/18/nationals-player-confused-upset-about-the-transfer-rule/

 

[iaefebs]

I understand that MLB will be meeting next week to discuss the transfer rule. I foresee a more common sense approach to replay coming. Here is another ridiculous play from yesterday.

http://m.mlb.com/video/v32185313/se...ay-in-9th/?partnerId=as_mlb_20140419_22266244

 

[iaefebs]

I thought I saw 1/2 this game, but completely missed this play. I need to stop switching back and forth between 6 or 7 different games. (nah) This is worth watching.

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article/mlb...md=20140418&content_id=72567730&vkey=news_mlb

 

[iaefebs]

The "Transfer rule" has been amended and officially dead. Hallelujah. Back to playing baseball the way it should be played. Now if they quit challenging the bang bang plays at first I'll be happy. Save replay for the obvious things. MLB statement in full http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/eye-on...mlb-fixes-transfer-rule-effective-immediately

 

[HoppyDaze]

I understand that MLB will be meeting next week to discuss the transfer rule. I foresee a more common sense approach to replay coming. Here is another ridiculous play from yesterday.

http://m.mlb.com/video/v32185313/se...ay-in-9th/?partnerId=as_mlb_20140419_22266244

Wow. Not like it was the bottom of the ninth or anything ... oh wait.

 

[Ridire]

There was a "transfer" play last night in the Tigers v. Twins game. They've got it right now.

Tigers bullpen is horrendous.

 

[passedpawn]

Tigers bullpen is horrendous.

Did they give up a game-ending grand slam last night to a rookie batter? OK, it could be worse.

Grant Balfour executed the meltdown perfectly last night for the Rays. So glad to have him back.

 

[Ridire]

Did they give up a game-ending grand slam last night to a rookie batter? OK, it could be worse.

Grant Balfour executed the meltdown perfectly last night for the Rays. So glad to have him back.

Phil Coke. 'nuff said. Gets no worse.

Tigers have used two relievers so far today - ERA's:

10.80
27.00

and climbing...

 

[passedpawn]

Phil Coke. 'nuff said. Gets no worse.

Tigers have used two relievers so far today - ERA's:

10.80
27.00

and climbing...

Haha, forgot about Coke.

 

[iaefebs]

On a positive note, Jose Ortega with the 27.0 ERA hasn't given up a hit yet. Imagine if they start to hit him. In fairness though he was in Ohio this morning when he got the call up and arrived at 11:00AM. 3 hours later he was rushed into the game and had to warmup on the mound because of a injury to Sanchez. A hell of a way to start your day.

 

[Ridire]

On a positive note, Jose Ortega with the 27.0 ERA hasn't given up a hit yet. Imagine if they start to hit him. In fairness though he was in Ohio this morning when he got the call up and arrived at 11:00AM. 3 hours later he was rushed into the game and had to warmup on the mound because of a injury to Sanchez. A hell of a way to start your day.

Haha...true. But you walk a few fellas with Coke following you to the mound, you're going to have some earned runs to your name. Coke, with that crappy outing, didn't have any runs charged against him.


Sent from here, because that's where I am.

 

[HoppyDaze]

Lou Gehrig played his final game 75 years ago today:

 

[paulthenurse]

And Wally Pipp played in his final game 75 years plus 2130 games ago.

 

[paulthenurse]

Actually I don't know if that's true. Did Pipp catch on anywhere else?

 

[hoppyhoppyhippo]

Interesting battle between Trout and Tulo for the best player in April. Even though WAR disagrees with me, I give it io Tulu because his numbers are more solid. Trout's asinine .420 BABIP isn't as sustainable as Tulo's .357 in Coors.

 

[iaefebs]

Who in the AL needs a DH? I don't think Tory Hunter can play RF anymore and there is no other room on the Tigers for him. It would be best if someone would take him as a DH. Tigers can cover RF. Tory would be an excellent DH for someone.

 

[HoppyDaze]

Mariners need a bat boy

 

[iaefebs]

Mariners need a bat boy

I Hope that's not a response to my post on Torii Hunter

Separate response on Baseball in general. My wife as I've mentioned before is a bigger fan than me. However she is stuck on Tigers only, where I like to cover the entire league. I was outside when Billy Butler hit a HR against the Tigers. She hates when someone scores against the Tigers, I was happy for Butler (we share a birthday) and hoped it would get Porcello head in the game. Sure enough he retired the next 12.

 

[HoppyDaze]

It was

 

[iaefebs]

It was

Mariners need more than a batboy. How about a DH that can hit .300 at a major league level. Oh wait you have corey hart at .226. Torii would only get 45 more hits a year.

 

[btbnl]

Actually I don't know if that's true. Did Pipp catch on anywhere else?

Yup - 3 years with the Reds (1926-28), though only the first was a good one.