Denny, that does suck big time and I know the feeling. Your excited to go in, talk shop look at the cool stuff, and you come across part time Joe, who thinks he's the next DFH brewer but it doesn't surprise me. I work in IT, and it's the same way, I walk into shops, and come across local IT guys who think they are bill gates, and until they think your on the level, there just a bunch of tool bags. I'm sure I can look up shops in any one of my brewing mags, but were else do you go?