New England IPA "Northeast" style IPA

[James Quall]

Before you brew again. Let this current beer condition another two weeks. It might flocc out some yeast/other compounds and then really come together. Then all we discussed will be semi absolute(except actually switching the bittering hop variety to a cleaner on). At that point you’ll know it’s a process situation and you’ll need to get cleaner beer in the keg (ie need a longer crash and more carful transfer, etc)

Great idea, I’ll do that. Thanks for the advice.

Cheers!

 

[stjimmyjos]

My recent bottled NEIPA
I think I finally nailed my ideal New England style
19l
43% pilsner malt
29% wheat malt
22% oat malts
3% maltodextrin
Water profile for
I used:
CTZ at mash hopping for 6IBU (10g)
Citra 50g @whirlpool <80C 20min
Dry hopping Azacca 50g at 2 day of fermentation
50g of Azacca and Citra each dry hopping for 2 days
Fermentation using Ebbegarden Kveik @32C didn't boiled my hops and limited WP because this Kveik can enhance bitterness
Bottled with 3g of ascorbic acid and 0.5g of SMB

 

[LJvermonster]

I started using coastal haze a couple batches ago and have stuck with it since. Have one on the stir plate now for a brew day this weekend that I'm entertaining into the pa state final competition. I have used imperial a24 and a38, and a few other yeast strains, nothing against the other yeasts I just prefer the coastal haze. I have had repeatable results and really happy with it overall. This was my last batch with it, brewed in may, keg just kicked this past weekend.
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Can you share your recipe? Visually this is a beauty!

 

[Sbe2]

Love the Genny glass.

Thanks, Other Half and Genny did a New England Cream Ale collab. They did two runs and had to get the glass along with beer as Cream Ale was my 30 of choice in college.

 

[Sbe2]

I have a lb of citra and .5 lb of Lupomax Columbus on hand. Looking at doing a WP of 1 oz citra and 2 oz of Columbus. DH 4 oz Citra and 2 oz of Columbus. What are y’all thoughts?

 

[ihavenonickname]

yeah that's a sure bet combo. I like your blend, but I've also done all columbus whirloop and all citra DH.

 

[Dgallo]

I have a lb of citra and .5 lb of Lupomax Columbus on hand. Looking at doing a WP of 1 oz citra and 2 oz of Columbus. DH 4 oz Citra and 2 oz of Columbus. What are y’all thoughts?

Lots of trillium beers are Columbus and another hop. I feel like Vicinity Street is Citra/Columbus

 

[Whalewang]

What hops (for NEIPAs) are you guys getting from the Yakima Valley flash sale?

 

[BongoYodeler]

Thanks, Other Half and Genny did a New England Cream Ale collab. They did two runs and had to get the glass along with beer as Cream Ale was my 30 of choice in college.

The time I spent in college was likely cut short, in part, because of Genny Cream Ale.

 

[Dgallo]

What hops (for NEIPAs) are you guys getting from the Yakima Valley flash sale?

I will be getting none as I have way to many hops as it is… that’s said, Cashmere and bru1 are the only from that listed that I would buy for NEIPAS. I personally think azacca is bland and you have to use so much of it just to get the faintest amount of character. I’ve only used Zappa twice and it was a few years ago, but I remember it coming off like rotten fruit. Like way over ripe, mushy strawberries, if you know that flavor I’m trying to describe.

I love chinook though for west coast/red ipas/and hoppy browns

 

[Dgallo]

Has anyone ever had a Yakima Chief pack swell before? I’ve probably purchased 150-200lbs of hops in my time brewing and I’ve never seen this before….

 

[IslandLizard]

Has anyone ever had a Yakima Chief pack swell before? I’ve probably purchased 150-200lbs of hops in my time brewing and I’ve never seen this before….

Me neither. Containing an N2 widget perhaps?
Did they arrive flat, or as a hard vacuum pack?

 

[Dgallo]

Me neither. Containing an N2 widget perhaps?
Did they arrive flat, or as a hard vacuum pack?

They are nitrogen purged IIRCC. The bag was only maybe a cm thick when I bought it I kinda want to reach out to Yakima chef, not that I care about any replacement of an oz of hops but I’m genuinely intrigued. Did the organisms on the hops start to break them down? It’s very interesting to me

 

[bailey mountain brewer]

Can you share your recipe? Visually this is a beauty!

I'll do my best, I'm away this weekend and dont have my notes, so going off memory...
65% 2 row
20% white wheat
10% malted oats
3% carapils
2% honey malt

Simcoe at 60min
10min addition of simcoe, citra, mosaic
Whirlpool at 170 with citra, mosaic, and nectaron.
Dry hop was citra galaxy nectaron.

I can recheck my recipe notes when I get home but that's probably in the ballpark. Also I wouldn't change a thing about this beer, it was absolutely delicious.

 

[Sbe2]

Lots of trillium beers are Columbus and another hop. I feel like Vicinity Street is Citra/Columbus

Man I completely forgot about Trillium. What was/is the cutting tiles series? Probably should just google it. That’s probably why I bought the Lupomax, somewhere deep in my brain was the fact that they use Cloumbus often.

 

[Sbe2]

Has anyone ever had a Yakima Chief pack swell before? I’ve probably purchased 150-200lbs of hops in my time brewing and I’ve never seen this before….

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I’ve only bought YC from the LHBS in Rochester and I’ve never seen that. I’ve always had good luck with YVH. I’d like to see your findings when u open that sucker up.

 

[Sbe2]

I'll do my best, I'm away this weekend and dont have my notes, so going off memory...
65% 2 row
20% white wheat
10% malted oats
3% carapils
2% honey malt

Simcoe at 60min
10min addition of simcoe, citra, mosaic
Whirlpool at 170 with citra, mosaic, and nectaron.
Dry hop was citra galaxy nectaron.

I can recheck my recipe notes when I get home but that's probably in the ballpark. Also I wouldn't change a thing about this beer, it was absolutely delicious.

I have yet to mess with nectaron, but may have to spring for some on my next hop order.

 

[Dgallo]

Man I completely forgot about Trillium. What was/is the cutting tiles series? Probably should just google it. That’s probably why I bought the Lupomax, somewhere deep in my brain was the fact that they use Cloumbus often.

Cutting tiles is their honey ipa series I believe it’s all single hopped I but I could be wrong there

 

[Dgallo]

I’ve only bought YC from the LHBS in Rochester and I’ve never seen that. I’ve always had good luck with YVH. I’d like to see your findings when u open that sucker up.

I plan on opening it and dryhopping a Bretted farmhouse beer with it tonight. Should be updating the thread tonight

 

[Noob_Brewer]

Cutting tiles is their honey ipa series I believe it’s all single hopped I but I could be wrong there

Yes it is. All these beers are single hop varieties with raw wildflower honey. I had one several years ago with vic secret. It was a beautiful beer.

 

[Sbe2]

Cutting tiles is their honey ipa series I believe it’s all single hopped I but I could be wrong there

Yes it is. All these beers are single hop varieties with raw wildflower honey. I had one several years ago with vic secret. It was a beautiful beer.

This is getting trippy. I am going to use my in laws honey to boost my SG. I have a little over nine lbs of grain left from before I moved and want to get into the 7% range. I am going to use the boost of honey at flame out to get the extra gravity points needed. It’s like the planets are aligning for this brew, man something is going to have to go wrong…

 

[IslandLizard]

I am going to use the boost of honey at flame out

I'd wait for the whirlpool at 140-150F to add the honey. It will pasteurize in a 5-10 minutes that way, and retain the higher fragrant honey notes.

 

[Dgallo]

This is getting trippy. I am going to use my in laws honey to boost my SG. I have a little over nine lbs of grain left from before I moved and want to get into the 7% range. I am going to use the boost of honey at flame out to get the extra gravity points needed. It’s like the planets are aligning for this brew, man something is going to have to go wrong…

Sound good. I was also going to suggest what @IslandLizard suggested and do it lower around your whirlpool temp so you can kill two birds with one stone

You can send it my way… I’ll give you tasting notes lol

 

[Dgallo]

I’ve only bought YC from the LHBS in Rochester and I’ve never seen that. I’ve always had good luck with YVH. I’d like to see your findings when u open that sucker up.

Just opened it. Unfortunately they were very cheesy so I tossed them. I’ve also only had good experiences with YC, so it’s def an isolated issue

 

[Sbe2]

Just opened it. Unfortunately they were very cheesy so I tossed them. I’ve also only had good experiences with YC, so it’s def an isolated issue

Bummer

 

[Sbe2]

I'd wait for the whirlpool at 140-150F to add the honey. It will pasteurize in a 5-10 minutes that way, and retain the higher fragrant honey notes.

Never thought about it that way. I was just using for the boost in points as I’ve got 15 lbs of it.

 

[IslandLizard]

Never thought about it that way. I was just using for the boost in points as I’ve 15 lbs of it.

If you really wanted more honey flavor, adding the honey toward the end of fermentation is even better.
I always do that with honey and syrups. I keep some wort behind and use that to thin the honey and syrups for easier pouring and mixing. Everything done in the primary fermenter. Although using a pre-purged secondary and an oxygen-free transfer may have offer some additional benefits.

 

[bailey mountain brewer]

I have yet to mess with nectaron, but may have to spring for some on my next hop order.

You can swap out the nectaron for any "new age" hop, strata, nelson, vic secret, or just go with citra and galaxy. My next one will be with bru1.

 

[CascadesBrewer]

Has anyone ever had a Yakima Chief pack swell before?

I had a recent Simcoe 1 lb bag from YVH that swelled like that. When I did get around to opening it, the hops were dark green and tasted great. I am not 100% sure what causes that.

 

[BullGator]

This thread is impressive...not surprising though. I've brewed around 100+ batches, mainly IPA's, but its been around 2 years since by last batch and things are a little fuzzy. Plus, I've been out of the research game in terms of the latest and greatest. My last few batches back in 2020 I added my first dry hop 24 hours after pitching my yeast. Partially because I was using the OYL-61 Voss Kveik which ferments super quick. That was part of the reason I started dry hopping so soon. Those beers turned out really good. So to avoid any responses like "if it turned out good, just repeat" I'm wondering in general what others are doing in terms of dry hop timing. I decided to use WLP-067 Coastal Haze and not sure how fast it ferments. I made a heathy starter and it was going full steam very quickly. My general google search is telling me like 3 days, but I'm skeptical because I did 24 hours with great results (albeit potentially different yeast). With the Voss Kveik, I usually hopped again on day 2-3 just in case. Then again in the keg. So not exactly sure which of those hop charges gave me the good results I got. Thoughts?