New England IPA "Northeast" style IPA

[aaronm13]

Does anyone reuse their A24 rather than buying new packs? I overbuild starters and store some for next time, but I've been noticing that the esters aren't as present after the initial batch. Could it be that one of the two strains in the mix is taking over?

I pitch at 68-70F, then let it ride at 73.

Think that's the downside of reusing blends. The more dominant strain will always take over.

 

[stickyfinger]

I haven't re-used it more than maybe 1-2 times and thought it was similar. It might make sense to get a pack of each of the strains and overbuild each for each beer. PITA but worth experimenting.

Does anyone reuse their A24 rather than buying new packs? I overbuild starters and store some for next time, but I've been noticing that the esters aren't as present after the initial batch. Could it be that one of the two strains in the mix is taking over?

I pitch at 68-70F, then let it ride at 73.

 

[Dgallo]

Does anyone reuse their A24 rather than buying new packs? I overbuild starters and store some for next time, but I've been noticing that the esters aren't as present after the initial batch. Could it be that one of the two strains in the mix is taking over?

I pitch at 68-70F, then let it ride at 73.

If you over build your starters, you really should cold crash it for over 96 hours. Then decant. This is the best way to preserve the blend. I go as long as 6/7 days

 

[Dgallo]

@HopsAreGood just wanted to update you on the 2020 Riwaka and Nelson. (I believe it was you who mentioned you had a Kane beer with one or both of them and it was coriander like). I have now used them both and get only true character from both of them. The Nelson is phenomenal.

I will say that I bought them both in 2 oz packs.(1.5 lbs of each) and have two different alphas for both of them. I used the 13.1 AA Nelson and 5.4 AA. I’ll update again when I use the other batch of those hops

 

[BeerFst]

Does anyone reuse their A24 rather than buying new packs? I overbuild starters and store some for next time, but I've been noticing that the esters aren't as present after the initial batch. Could it be that one of the two strains in the mix is taking over?

I pitch at 68-70F, then let it ride at 73.

I asked imperial this same question and they said don’t decant it. My overbuilt starters eventually clear in the fridge, but it takes weeks or months.

 

[Dgallo]

I asked imperial this same question and they said don’t decant it. My overbuilt starters eventually clear in the fridge, but it takes weeks or months.

Really?mine drop crystal clear in 6 days (obviously longer than a typical decant time). I also put it in the back right under the compressor which is around 32/33. So maybe that’s why I experience this.

 

[Noob_Brewer]

Really?mine drop crystal clear in 6 days (obviously longer than a typical decant time) lager clear. I also put it in the back right under the compressor which is around 32/33

When you say you are decanting with overbuild starters of A24 after about 6 days, are you referring to the overbuild portion you are using for a future batch? I typically overbuild as well, but have been timing them where the overbuild portion just gets stored for future use and the actual starter is put cold for about 24hrs before I pitch. Thanks.

 

[Dgallo]

When you say you are decanting with overbuild starters of A24 after about 6 days, are you referring to the overbuild portion you are using for a future batch? I typically overbuild as well, but have been timing them where the overbuild portion just gets stored for future use and the actual starter is put cold for about 24hrs before I pitch. Thanks.

the over build portion only. I don’t decant the the portion I’m pitching. I shake the original pouch and pour it into a measuring cup. I take 1/2 of it for the starter I’ll pitch in a beer and I’ll over build the other half. The one I pitch in the beer I do not decant and pitch while active.

 

[secretlevel]

Thanks guys. I never decant these in case of the yeasts hasn't flocced all the way. Dgallo's method sounds like a slightly better method than just me dumping the whole pouch into the first starter. Now if only any of the homebrew stores in Chicagoland sold Imperial yeast...

 

[jturman35]

I'm kicking around the idea of using US05 on my next batch. I couldn't get my hands on any Imperial Juice in time for my next brew day. Anyone make a killer NEIPA using US05? Seems like 05 would come out more bright and crisp.

 

[Dgallo]

Thanks guys. I never decant these in case of the yeasts hasn't flocced all the way. Dgallo's method sounds like a slightly better method than just me dumping the whole pouch into the first starter. Now if only any of the homebrew stores in Chicagoland sold Imperial yeast...

Order from great fermentation. They’re out of IN and it’s cold outside so no issues. They have been so busy Recently I can’t imagine you’d get yeast outside of a month or two old.

 

[Dgallo]

I'm kicking around the idea of using US05 on my next batch. I couldn't get my hands on any Imperial Juice in time for my next brew day. Anyone make a killer NEIPA using US05? Seems like 05 would come out more bright and crisp.

I do my pales with us-05 and it 100% let’s the hops shine.

 

[HopsAreGood]

@HopsAreGood just wanted to update you on the 2020 Riwaka and Nelson. (I believe it was you who mentioned you had a Kane beer with one or both of them and it was coriander like). I have now used them both and get only true character from both of them. The Nelson is phenomenal.

I will say that I bought them both in 2 oz packs.(1.5 lbs of each) and have two different alphas for both of them. I used the 13.1 AA Nelson and 5.4 AA. I’ll update again when I use the other batch of those hops

Yeah, I have no idea why that Riwaka beer was so weird. Some people really liked it but others got the same strange flavor that I did.

https://untappd.com/b/kane-brewing-company-riwaka-single-hop/3991838
I’ve used a bunch of the 2020 Nelson, all from YVH, and agree it’s really nice. The next beer I’m planning is going to be all Apollo hot side with a 50/50 Nelson/Nectaron DH. I’m going to use the new Omega Sundew yeast as well. Should be interesting.

 

[BeerFst]

Really?mine drop crystal clear in 6 days (obviously longer than a typical decant time). I also put it in the back right under the compressor which is around 32/33. So maybe that’s why I experience this.

Mines top shelf but not by the compressor, I’ve seen Things freeze in that zone. Still took more than a week for sure

 

[skleice]

I'm kicking around the idea of using US05 on my next batch. I couldn't get my hands on any Imperial Juice in time for my next brew day. Anyone make a killer NEIPA using US05? Seems like 05 would come out more bright and crisp.

Ferment in the low 60's and you can pull a lot of peachy notes if you're into that.

 

[exit8]

I'm kicking around the idea of using US05 on my next batch. I couldn't get my hands on any Imperial Juice in time for my next brew day. Anyone make a killer NEIPA using US05? Seems like 05 would come out more bright and crisp.

I pitch a combination(50/50) of S-05 and S-04 on most of these beers I do and like what it brings.

 

[Stonehenge360]

4 days into a NEIPA using the brand new OYL-401 non-phoenolic. Supposed to taste like strawberries, and the airlock definitely has a strong berry smell. OG 1063. Down to 1018 on day 3. Pitched at 66F, Started at 70F, and brought up to 75 day 3.

Went with a blow off since it climbed the starter flask so much, but ended up not needing it in the CF-5

Citra and Amarillo at flameout.

Plan to soft crash at FG and dry hop with citra/Medusa/galaxy mix at 60F

Will report back on yeast when it’s all done.

 

[secretlevel]

Yeah, I have no idea why that Riwaka beer was so weird. Some people really liked it but others got the same strange flavor that I did.

https://untappd.com/b/kane-brewing-company-riwaka-single-hop/3991838
I’ve used a bunch of the 2020 Nelson, all from YVH, and agree it’s really nice. The next beer I’m planning is going to be all Apollo hot side with a 50/50 Nelson/Nectaron DH. I’m going to use the new Omega Sundew yeast as well. Should be interesting.

I dry hopped an all Motueka Pils with 1.5oz Riwaka and 1.5oz Citra and got the same weird flavor that totally threw me off. Riwaka just took over with this diesely-vanilla type flavor. I'm really hoping it fades with time.

 

[jturman35]

I am currently drinking my first ever brewed Pilsner after 45 batches. This beer is now sitting at around 7 weeks and getting better by the week. This NZ Pils recipe (courtesy of Dgallo) was hopped with 2oz Nelson and 1oz Riwaka all in the boil, no dry hop. Originally the Nelson wine grape flavor dominated, but now the sweet fruit from the Riwaka is coming through. I get a hint of the machine oil/vanilla thing but I find it's pleasant. This is my first ever pilsner as i hate the style because I always find US pils boring, but after brewing this NZ Pils this will likely be a regular on tap.

I'm still blown away by how much the 3oz of hops pop in this beer even after 7 weeks and no dry hop. Makes me wonder how much I have been over doing my NEIPA recipes.

 

[Bohern]

As promised, here is a picture of my NEIPA

 

[chieftain]

I am currently drinking my first ever brewed Pilsner after 45 batches. This beer is now sitting at around 7 weeks and getting better by the week. This NZ Pils recipe (courtesy of Dgallo) was hopped with 2oz Nelson and 1oz Riwaka all in the boil, no dry hop. Originally the Nelson wine grape flavor dominated, but now the sweet fruit from the Riwaka is coming through. I get a hint of the machine oil/vanilla thing but I find it's pleasant. This is my first ever pilsner as i hate the style because I always find US pils boring, but after brewing this NZ Pils this will likely be a regular on tap.

I'm still blown away by how much the 3oz of hops pop in this beer even after 7 weeks and no dry hop. Makes me wonder how much I have been over doing my NEIPA recipes.

That's a winning recipe, I can personally attest.

 

[couchsending]

Th is my first ever pilsner as i hate the style because I always find US pils boring, but after brewing this NZ Pils this will likely be a regular on tap.

I'm still blown away by how much the 3oz of hops pop in this beer even after 7 weeks and no dry hop. Makes me wonder how much I have been over doing my NEIPA recipes.

Where do you live? I’d suggest seeking out the places that really brew great lagers, the ones that really care. Once you’ve had the best it will help you understand how truly amazing they are and how unbelievably hard they are to brew. I will tell you the more you learn about lager brewing the better your brewing will get in general.

Fermenting colder helps certain compounds stay in the beer. They’re less likely to get blown off as opposed to a warmer faster ferment.

 

[Noob_Brewer]

If anyone is looking for a different hop combo that is totally awesome: Moutere / Nectaron is the bomb!
Its strong tropical flavor with smooth grapefruit and some background earth/pine that I love.

 

[BeerFst]

2020 lupomax is live on YVH. Citra, mosaic And sabro like last year. They added equanot, amarillo so far. YVH IG story also says they should have BRU1 but not showing available yet. A couple more varieties to go

edit: I had assumed that if the varietal wasn’t crossed out it was available. That appears to not be the case as Citra mosaic and sabro are “sold out” or “not available” so far. The post from YVH was a repost from barth haas, they said they have all the ones I listed, so I imagine it’s a matter of time before we get the email

 

[Dgallo]

2020 lupomax is live on YVH. Citra, mosaic And sabro like last year. They added equanot, amarillo so far. YVH IG story also says they should have BRU1 but not showing available yet. A couple more varieties to go

edit: I had assumed that if the varietal wasn’t crossed out it was available. That appears to not be the case as Citra mosaic and sabro are “sold out” or “not available” so far. The post from YVH was a repost from barth haas, they said they have all the ones I listed, so I imagine it’s a matter of time before we get the email

Thank you for the update

 

[aaronm13]

What was peoples impression of the 2019 Lupomax? I got the Citra and Mosaic, wasn't blown away by the Citra. No obvious difference from T90 except maybe volume.

 

[Dgallo]

What was peoples impression of the 2019 Lupomax? I got the Citra and Mosaic, wasn't blown away by the Citra. No obvious difference from T90 except maybe volume.

I thought it was terrific. Best expression of Citra ive gotten. Not excessively potent but just clean and pure Citra

 

[JoeMamasIPA]

Same here

 

[aaronm13]

Interesting. Used mine in a Citra/Galaxy Verdant clone and was really underwhelmed by the outcome. I still have the Mosaic to try out. I think I need to go back to look at my processes as I haven't been happy with any of my NEIPAs the last few months. They're getting worse not better. A friend said to me if he didn't know better and how I brew he'd swear there was very little hops used. All my beers are dry hopped with 20-25g/L

 

[BongoYodeler]

What was peoples impression of the 2019 Lupomax? I got the Citra and Mosaic, wasn't blown away by the Citra. No obvious difference from T90 except maybe volume.

I purchased 2019 Lupomax Citra and Mosaic back in September. I used those plus some El Dorado and Strata to make neipa in October. I noticed some initial harshness for most of the first month, but then great after that. I actually still have a little left in the keg and the hop pop has mellowed a bit but still smells fantastic. In fact I poured a pint last week and my wife was able to smell it from across the room as I walked in. I guess I didn't really answer your question other than to say I was quite happy with it.