New England IPA "Northeast" style IPA

[Dgallo]

They make really tasty wc pils and wc ipas. Some of the best.

That’s their niche. Neipas isn’t their best work in my opinion.

Fidens or NP / green cheek ?

 

[Ulisses4677]

North park and green cheek

 

[anteater8]

Speaking of Krush.... I feel like ever since they gave it a name, I've been seeing it on taplists everywhere. I mean it's definitely been a great hop for a while, I guess Krush markets better than HBC-586, but it still makes me think of weed/kush every time I see it.

 

[wepeeler]

Got 3rd for my NEIPA in SNERHC! Scored a consensus 43.

Only knock was a hint of butter (no friggin way...)

Aroma - "Layers of tropical fruit, citrus and resin; lovely". 10/12
Appearance - 3/3
Flavor - "Juicy resin, layers of citrus and fruit; yum". 17/20
Mouthfeel - "Smooth and substantial". 5/5
Overall - "Very lovely beer, well within style guidelines. Only flaw is a bit of butter in both aroma and flavor. Watch yeast health and pitch rate."

 

[Dgallo]

Got 3rd for my NEIPA in SNERHC! Scored a consensus 43.

Only knock was a hint of butter (no friggin way...)

Aroma - "Layers of tropical fruit, citrus and resin; lovely". 10/12
Appearance - 3/3
Flavor - "Juicy resin, layers of citrus and fruit; yum". 17/20
Mouthfeel - "Smooth and substantial". 5/5
Overall - "Very lovely beer, well within style guidelines. Only flaw is a bit of butter in both aroma and flavor. Watch yeast health and pitch rate."

Congrats! Great score. What were your judge(s)’s ranks?

Can’t lie though, it’s very surprising that you scored so well but the judges noted smelling and tasting diacetyl, which would be considered a major flaw. Almost seems like they are knit picking and tasting intentionally looking for flaws versus drinking the beers subjectively.

Is that character really there? Have you done a forced diacetyl test to see if the FOS?

 

[wepeeler]

Congrats! Great score. What were your judge(s)’s ranks?

Can’t lie though, it’s very surprising that you scored so well but the judges noted smelling and tasting diacetyl, which would be considered a major flaw. Almost seems like they are knit picking and tasting intentionally looking for flaws versus drinking the beers subjectively.

Is that character really there? Have you done a forced diacetyl test to see if the FOS?

Thanks man! Certified and National judges. That was by far my highest rated beer of SNERHC. I got 3rd place with a 34 Helles and a 38 Rauchbier. Apparently, it's judged very sternly. I stopped doing diacetyl tests long ago. This was also my largest DH, so MAYBE there was hop creep? I don't get any butter and neither did anyone in my club. Doesn't mean it isn't there, but I say nitpicking too. Went to a mini BOS and one of my friends who was back there said my beer was between 2 and 3. The #1 was fantastic, he said. I'm still stoked!

 

[Dgallo]

Thanks man! Certified and National judges. That was by far my highest rated beer of SNERHC. I got 3rd place with a 34 Helles and a 38 Rauchbier. Apparently, it's judged very sternly. I stopped doing diacetyl tests long ago. This was also my largest DH, so MAYBE there was hop creep? I don't get any butter and neither did anyone in my club. Doesn't mean it isn't there, but I say nitpicking too. Went to a mini BOS and one of my friends who was back there said my beer was between 2 and 3. The #1 was fantastic, he said. I'm still stoked!

I figured you were in a mini bos taking a bronze with a 43, I feel like that’s the only way for that to happen (I didn’t medal on a 43 stout before due to the mini bos lol).

Congrats again brother. That’s a big time score, you should be proud!

 

[secretlevel]

Made a Citra/Sabro beer inspired by Hop Butcher's Neon Green relish as well as a redux of a NZ Cascade/Nelson/Citra beer I made a while back. The Sabro batch is banging and a good amount of tropical notes. Some friends as well as guys at HB advised a max of 20% so I went with
NZ Cascade is also pretty good, but muddled. I liked this beer better when I made it with Motueka/Nelson/Citra instead. About 4:2:1 ratio there.

Both beers are tasting killer after 2 weeks in keg, but the color is absolutely terrible since kegging day. I assume that this isn't an O2 issue since I've made a bunch of O2-free hazies and WC IPAs with the same process and my buddy, who took home 1/2 of this hazy wort, hasn't had any O2 issues either and his looks dark too. FWIW I ferment in kegs with floating dip tube. Fill with CO2 before crashing, then purge the lines and daisy chain them to transfer into a purged keg (also transferred sanitizer out with CO2).

I did, however, run into a bunch of issues with my element scorching the wort a while back. I got a different new element (Slingblade) and ran it at 80% power the first time for a WC IPA, then turned it down for 66% for this batch. Am I running this too hot at 240v? Anyone else have issues with heating elements darkening the wort?

Malts are 2-row/Pils split, flaked wheat, malted wheat and malted oats.

 

[BongoYodeler]

Made a Citra/Sabro beer inspired by Hop Butcher's Neon Green relish as well as a redux of a NZ Cascade/Nelson/Citra beer I made a while back. The Sabro batch is banging and a good amount of tropical notes. Some friends as well as guys at HB advised a max of 20% so I went with
NZ Cascade is also pretty good, but muddled. I liked this beer better when I made it with Motueka/Nelson/Citra instead. About 4:2:1 ratio there.

Both beers are tasting killer after 2 weeks in keg, but the color is absolutely terrible since kegging day. I assume that this isn't an O2 issue since I've made a bunch of O2-free hazies and WC IPAs with the same process and my buddy, who took home 1/2 of this hazy wort, hasn't had any O2 issues either and his looks dark too. FWIW I ferment in kegs with floating dip tube. Fill with CO2 before crashing, then purge the lines and daisy chain them to transfer into a purged keg (also transferred sanitizer out with CO2).

I did, however, run into a bunch of issues with my element scorching the wort a while back. I got a different new element (Slingblade) and ran it at 80% power the first time for a WC IPA, then turned it down for 66% for this batch. Am I running this too hot at 240v? Anyone else have issues with heating elements darkening the wort?

Malts are 2-row/Pils split, flaked wheat, malted wheat and malted oats.

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I currently have a Citra/Sabro pale ale cold crashing in preparation of dry hopping. My ratio is 7oz of Citra and .5oz of Sabro Lupomax. Not sure if that little bit of Sabro will even be noticeable at that amount. But I've decided I'm not wild about Sabro, and since I have a half pound (Lupomax) of it I'm trying to find ways of using it up.

 

[bailey mountain brewer]

Right there with ya, I got some sabro that I'll probably give to someone in my homebrew club, nothing wrong with it, just not my favorite hop, and my wife doesn't like it either.

 

[Dgallo]

Right there with ya, I got some sabro that I'll probably give to someone in my homebrew club, nothing wrong with it, just not my favorite hop, and my wife doesn't like it either.

I Like it when it’s used well. I have one that I make with citra, cashmere, Amarillo, and Sabro and it comes off like tropical assorted gummies with orange, peach, lime, and a cool coconut cream. I think it’s only 2 or 3 oz in the total beer of Sabro

 

[BongoYodeler]

I Like it when it’s used well. I have one that I make with citra, cashmere, Amarillo, and Sabro and it comes off like tropical assorted gummies with orange, peach, lime, and a cool coconut cream. I think it’s only 2 or 3 oz in the total beer of Sabro

Yeah, I've only had a half a dozen or so beers (that I'm aware) that were hopped in part with Sabro. Of those most were nearly undrinkable, but one of them I really enjoyed. So I'm sure you're correct when you say, "when it's used well." My goal when I planned my pale ale mentioned above was to take a Citra-hopped beer bit add just enough of Sabro to make you say to yourself, it's a "Citra pale....but......"
Maybe just 1/2 ounce of Sabro Lupomax won't bring that "....but...." we'll see.

 

[secretlevel]

Yeah, I've only had a half a dozen or so beers (that I'm aware) that were hopped in part with Sabro. Of those most were nearly undrinkable, but one of them I really enjoyed. So I'm sure you're correct when you say, "when it's used well." My goal when I planned my pale ale mentioned above was to take a Citra-hopped beer bit add just enough of Sabro to make you say to yourself, it's a "Citra pale....but......"
Maybe just 1/2 ounce of Sabro Lupomax won't bring that "....but...." we'll see.

It could be crop and lot related too. I smelled two bags of Sabro before adding it to DH and the YCH cryo definitely smelled better than the can of YVH Sabro. YCH was tropical and fruity but the YVH can was just grassy to me so I didn't use that one. So smell it and see if you like it for sure.

 

[Dgallo]

Yeah, I've only had a half a dozen or so beers (that I'm aware) that were hopped in part with Sabro. Of those most were nearly undrinkable, but one of them I really enjoyed. So I'm sure you're correct when you say, "when it's used well." My goal when I planned my pale ale mentioned above was to take a Citra-hopped beer bit add just enough of Sabro to make you say to yourself, it's a "Citra pale....but......"
Maybe just 1/2 ounce of Sabro Lupomax won't bring that "....but...." we'll see.

I think you’re planning well. I will always argue thst it’s better to use less and then know how to adjust next time than using too much

 

[beervoid]

Made a Citra/Sabro beer inspired by Hop Butcher's Neon Green relish as well as a redux of a NZ Cascade/Nelson/Citra beer I made a while back. The Sabro batch is banging and a good amount of tropical notes. Some friends as well as guys at HB advised a max of 20% so I went with
NZ Cascade is also pretty good, but muddled. I liked this beer better when I made it with Motueka/Nelson/Citra instead. About 4:2:1 ratio there.

Both beers are tasting killer after 2 weeks in keg, but the color is absolutely terrible since kegging day. I assume that this isn't an O2 issue since I've made a bunch of O2-free hazies and WC IPAs with the same process and my buddy, who took home 1/2 of this hazy wort, hasn't had any O2 issues either and his looks dark too. FWIW I ferment in kegs with floating dip tube. Fill with CO2 before crashing, then purge the lines and daisy chain them to transfer into a purged keg (also transferred sanitizer out with CO2).

I did, however, run into a bunch of issues with my element scorching the wort a while back. I got a different new element (Slingblade) and ran it at 80% power the first time for a WC IPA, then turned it down for 66% for this batch. Am I running this too hot at 240v? Anyone else have issues with heating elements darkening the wort?

Malts are 2-row/Pils split, flaked wheat, malted wheat and malted oats.

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That doesnt look oxidized to me, just higher EBC then you are aiming for, if it's oxidized you will smell it a mile away and it looks brown.
I think you are right that the scorching is the problem, if you keep running into problems with scorching you could try recirculating the wort while boiling

 

[bailey mountain brewer]

Ok, going back to ph adjustments. I adjusted my preboil ph down to 5.0 and if I recall correctly my KO ph was 5.2 I just check my fermenter ph while taking my FG, beer is done and ready to soft crash and dry hop, but my ph is 4.7 so I am under the impression I should add some phosphoric acid before I dry hop, when I have 17.5ish gallons in my fermenter, when I did my ph adjustments in the kettle I added 5ml to drop about .5 ph at a volume of 22 gal. So basically 80% of my kettle volume, I'd like to say that if I use 4ml of phosphoric acid that I should see the same ph drop of .5 .. I have no way to really mix or swirl my fermenter so when I add the acid I'm not sure how long it will take to disperse into the beer so that I could get an accurate reading. I could maybe do a little swirl, but 17.5 gallons I won't be able to get to aggressive with. Any thoughts?

 

[Mjpetrag]

Update, 2024 YVH galaxy smelled really great in the bag, super fruity. 2023 YVH Nelson on the other hand went in the trash, smelled like grass, no redeeming qualities. Swapped it out with 2 oz of 2023 YVH Citra lupomax

Following up on this, 4 days after kegging, hops starting to settle in. Was a lot of burn on days 0-2, now the yeast esters are starting become more prominent. And this wyeast 1272 is much softer, lighter and creamier A24 or A38 like I’m used to using, it almost reminds me of old school Haze.

The 2024 galaxy did not ruin the batch, although it was only 4 oz. Definitely one of the best hazies I have made to date.

 

[Mjpetrag]

Following up on this, 4 days after kegging, hops starting to settle in. Was a lot of burn on days 0-2, now the yeast esters are starting become more prominent. And this wyeast 1272 is much softer, lighter and creamier A24 or A38 like I’m used to using, it almost reminds me of old school Haze.

The 2024 galaxy did not ruin the batch, although it was only 4 oz. Definitely one of the best hazies I have made to date.

 

[secretlevel]

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Looks awesome! Curious how it evolves over the next week or two.
I gotta ask what's in the jars lol. Are those herbs?

 

[Mjpetrag]

Looks awesome! Curious how it evolves over the next week or two.
I gotta ask what's in the jars lol. Are those herbs?

lol yea my wife jars herbs from the garden. Guess we both have our hobbies

 

[bailey mountain brewer]

"Oregano"

 

[Ulisses4677]

Super is tasting phenomenal.. getting ready for a ddh. Citra,Superdelic, rakau. Nectaron wp.

 

[Dgallo]

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Super is tasting phenomenal.. getting ready for a ddh. Citra,Superdelic, rakau. Nectaron wp.

Is that an #11 bag? What volumes are you brewing? Lol

Beer looks great!

 

[Ulisses4677]

Is that an #11 bag? What volumes are you brewing? Lol

Beer looks great!

Yes it is. I brew 7 gallon batches. It’s a bag of rakau it was on sale. It smells amazing and it’s double the amount of oil than 24 harvest. Great bargain.

 

[Dgallo]

Yes it is. I brew 7 gallon batches. It’s a bag of rakau it was on sale. It smells amazing and it’s double the amount of oil than 24 harvest. Great bargai

Unfortunately I don’t get to brew enough to get big bags. Citra maybe but I def don’t use rakau enough (I do really like it though)

Hope alliance has been hit or miss for me. Probably the best quality I’ve ever gotten that wasnt gifted from a brewery came from hop alliance.

 

[Ulisses4677]

Unfortunately I don’t get to brew enough to get big bags. Citra maybe but I def don’t use rakau enough (I do really like it though)

Hope alliance has been hit or miss for me. Probably the best quality I’ve ever gotten that wasnt gifted from a brewery came from hop alliance.

I brew every other week. I look at the analytical data and compare different vendors. I also try to look up lot number.

 

[Dgallo]

I brew every other week. I look at the analytical data and compare different vendors. I also try to look up lot number.

Nice!! I like that hop alliance provides the hsi data. That’s the main one I base buying their stuff from

 

[LumberZach]

During cold crash, my 1272 hazy double dropped clear. It had a 5lbs. per barrel equivalent dry hop in it along with 30% raw wheat and 10% flaked oats. Water was 200ppm Chloride and 70ppm Sulfate. Calcium was below 100ppm. I dry hopped with a few points left. Not sure where I went wrong.

 

[Ulisses4677]

During cold crash, my 1272 hazy double dropped clear. It had a 5lbs. per barrel equivalent dry hop in it along with 30% raw wheat and 10% flaked oats. Water was 200ppm Chloride and 70ppm Sulfate. Calcium was below 100ppm. I dry hopped with a few points left. Not sure where I went wrong.

What hops did you use?

 

[LumberZach]

What hops did you use?

Citra from Ted at Hop Heaven and Motueka from YVH.