Specialty IPA: Black IPA None More Black IPA (Cascadian Dark Ale)

[r3dapples]

holy crap man that sorachi has a really unique taste to it! been two weeks since i've bottled it and it just keeps getting better, would probably tone down the roasted malts a bit next time cause mine tastes a bit more like a hoppy porter than a traditional CDA might. I think thats probably b/c i used a bit more munich and carafa than was called for after scaling the recipe down.
:cross:

 

[Damoxemus]

I love CDA's and happen to have all the hops on hand, so Ill be brewing this soon.

@wildginger: what tweaks did you make and what were the results? I intend to brew the original recipe but I'd I can't get all those grains it would be good to know what else might work.

 

[DrBrewDC]

I had a nearly flawless experience brewing up the original recipe of this, yesterday. It, too, was my first time with Sorachi. Very intriguing smell right out of the bag.

After reading the entire thread, I notice a small theme of overly roasty flavor. I think I may be able to shed some light on one potential cause.

The specialty malt Carafa Special III can be purchased in two fashions, with its husks or dehusked. The husks, among other flavor changers, offers an incredible amount of roast flavor. For this particular style of beer with its bitterness and hoppy yumminess, I suggest using Carafa Special III (DEHUSKED).

Just my 2cents. Cheers!!

 

[WildGingerBrewing]

I love CDA's and happen to have all the hops on hand, so Ill be brewing this soon.

@wildginger: what tweaks did you make and what were the results? I intend to brew the original recipe but I'd I can't get all those grains it would be good to know what else might work.

I just saw this, so sorry for the late response. My take on this beer is:
10 lbs 2-row
.75 lbs dark munich malt
.5 lbs cara-pils
.5 lbs carafa II
.5 lbs c-120

1 oz warrior @ 60 min
.5 oz centennial @ 60 min
.5 oz chinook @ 30 min
.5 oz centennial @ 15 min
.5 oz chinook @ 15 min
.5 oz chinook @ 5 min
2.5 oz chinook dry hop

When I first started brewing this beer, Sorachi Ace was not available at my lhbs. It is now and I have used it once in a different IPA. I may try brewing this one again and use the SA in lieu of the Centennial.

Hope this helps.

 

[Damoxemus]

Yes, thanks. I won't be brewing this for a bit yet so no worries on the wait!

 

[Damoxemus]

Finally got around to brewing this yesterday - I had to make some sub's but for the most part it's pretty close.

Hit my target temp on the nose but my efficiency was way higher than normal (did a mash out and mini sparge) - got 85%! So it's going to be a strong one!

9lbs 2 Row
1 Munich
.5 cara pils
.75 Carafa 2 (as opposed to .5 of carafa 3)
.5 C-60 (as opposed to c-80)

hop schedule was very close as well

.75oz Warrior FWH (as opposed to 1oz at 60)
0.5 oz. Sorachi (10.9% AA) 30 min.
0.5 oz. Amarillo Gold (7.2% AA) 30 min.
0.5 oz. Sorachi (10.9% AA) 15 min.
0.5 oz. Amarillo Gold (7.2% AA) 15 min.
1 oz. Amarillo Gold 5 min. (upped from .5)
1 oz. Sorachi (10.9% AA) Hopstand

Should be about 7% and 90IBU

Since it's dark and feature Sorachi Ace I've named it Ace of Spades!

 

[Damoxemus]

Hydro sample is deeee-licious!

Updated - July 22 - bottled this today. So ******* good even before carbing/chilling.

 

[dunnright00]

Gonna make a variation of this on Sunday...

 

[PADave]

Ordered the ingredients, and will be brewing this one soon.

 

[PADave]

Ok, been 6 days in the bottle and just about finished my first one. Good stuff. Ready just in time for the holiday weekend. First time using sorachi hops and I'm liking them. This is one of my favorite styles of beer, so I'll probably keep this is the regular rotation and try to always have some on hand. Glad I put two in the fridge, time for another.

 

[Shenanigans]

I had a nearly flawless experience brewing up the original recipe of this, yesterday. It, too, was my first time with Sorachi. Very intriguing smell right out of the bag.

After reading the entire thread, I notice a small theme of overly roasty flavor. I think I may be able to shed some light on one potential cause.

The specialty malt Carafa Special III can be purchased in two fashions, with its husks or dehusked. The husks, among other flavor changers, offers an incredible amount of roast flavor. For this particular style of beer with its bitterness and hoppy yumminess, I suggest using Carafa Special III (DEHUSKED).

Just my 2cents. Cheers!!

Good point, there always seems to be some confusion which type to use if it's not specifically stated in the recipe.

Which type are people generally using for this?
The husked or the de-husked; I guess the latter?

I have both here but only as Carafa II.
Hopefully the difference wont be too big if I use that.
Maybe I will just add an extra 2 or 3oz to keep the color closer to the original.

I also cant wait to use Soarchi Ace for the first time

I don't have any Warrior so I'll probably use Nugget or Columbus.
I do have a choice of Summit, Magnum and Taurus too but maybe they would be too smooth?

When I decide on the final recipe and get a chance to brew it I will post the results. Might take a while though.

 

[PADave]

I'm liking this more and more, can't wait to brew again. Going quick.

 

[Calaeb]

I just saw this, so sorry for the late response. My take on this beer is:
10 lbs 2-row
.75 lbs dark munich malt
.5 lbs cara-pils
.5 lbs carafa II
.5 lbs c-120

1 oz warrior @ 60 min
.5 oz centennial @ 60 min
.5 oz chinook @ 30 min
.5 oz centennial @ 15 min
.5 oz chinook @ 15 min
.5 oz chinook @ 5 min
2.5 oz chinook dry hop

When I first started brewing this beer, Sorachi Ace was not available at my lhbs. It is now and I have used it once in a different IPA. I may try brewing this one again and use the SA in lieu of the Centennial.

Hope this helps.

Is there anything I can sub for cara2? my lhbs is out. also how do you think azacca would be in this? Have about 4oz and nothing to use it in.