PlinyTheMiddleAged
Well-Known Member
- Joined
- Jan 9, 2014
- Messages
- 377
- Reaction score
- 106
Well, I'm getting closer at making a decent IPA. My last attempt was a Pliny the Elder clone using Vinnie's original posted recipe. Bitterness is there as well as aroma, but the flavor just wasn't there (I did a side by side comparison with a real, fresh Pliny).
Here's the hop additions - I used all pellet hops in a 6 gallon batch (with trub and hop losses, it's 5 into the keg):
3.5 oz Columbus at 90 minutes
0.75 oz Columbus at 45 minutes
1 oz Simcoe at 30 minutes
1 oz Centennial and 2.5 oz Simcoe at flameout
Dry hop additions were:
14 day additions
1 oz Centennial
1 oz Columbus
1 oz Simcoe
5 day additions
0.25 oz Centennial
0.25 oz Columbus
0.25 oz Simcoe
I suspect that I'm not getting a lot of flavor from my flameout additions. I think I'm just getting bittering from them. Basically, for those additions, I turn off the gas and dump the pellets in immediately and then start cooling in an ice bath. It probably takes me close to 10 minutes to get the wort below 180°F. So, IPA Experts, does spending more time at elevated temps skew my beers away from hop flavors and more towards hop bittering?
And what does "flameout addition" mean to you? Cool to 170°F, add hops, and hold for X minutes? Cool to 140°F, add hops, and hold for X minutes?
As an aside, I did experiment with a couple of immersion chillers yesterday - one in a bucket of ice water and the other in 5 gallons of boiling water. Running water through the chillers brought temps down to about 160°F in less than 2 minutes. Am I on the right track with this or do I just try again and see for myself?
Thanks in advance for your help! These forums are great!
Here's the hop additions - I used all pellet hops in a 6 gallon batch (with trub and hop losses, it's 5 into the keg):
3.5 oz Columbus at 90 minutes
0.75 oz Columbus at 45 minutes
1 oz Simcoe at 30 minutes
1 oz Centennial and 2.5 oz Simcoe at flameout
Dry hop additions were:
14 day additions
1 oz Centennial
1 oz Columbus
1 oz Simcoe
5 day additions
0.25 oz Centennial
0.25 oz Columbus
0.25 oz Simcoe
I suspect that I'm not getting a lot of flavor from my flameout additions. I think I'm just getting bittering from them. Basically, for those additions, I turn off the gas and dump the pellets in immediately and then start cooling in an ice bath. It probably takes me close to 10 minutes to get the wort below 180°F. So, IPA Experts, does spending more time at elevated temps skew my beers away from hop flavors and more towards hop bittering?
And what does "flameout addition" mean to you? Cool to 170°F, add hops, and hold for X minutes? Cool to 140°F, add hops, and hold for X minutes?
As an aside, I did experiment with a couple of immersion chillers yesterday - one in a bucket of ice water and the other in 5 gallons of boiling water. Running water through the chillers brought temps down to about 160°F in less than 2 minutes. Am I on the right track with this or do I just try again and see for myself?
Thanks in advance for your help! These forums are great!