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[kiwirevo]

Oh and I dry hopped a very small bit of the peated beer.. It was terrible.
Hops and peat don't mix, well at least the hops I used


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[crusader1612]

I have brewed a 100% peated beer with only bittering hops, it was really good and I've just today ordered a kilo of the manuka to do a small batch 100% manuka smoked beer trial which I'll brew this weekend. I'll get a whole sack of it when Brewers Coop up here in AKL gets it but wanted to play in the mean time. I'll use it to do a manuka Whisky as well.


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mmmmmmmmmmmmm manuka whiskey

 

[Jes2xu]

Oh and I dry hopped a very small bit of the peated beer.. It was terrible.
Hops and peat don't mix, well at least the hops I used


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Yeah . . . I cant really imagine smoke plus big hop character going well, perhaps if you went supper earthy and spicy type hops. . . . Bt yeah I would guess more late addition than dry hop.

Pretty pumped some one else is playing around with this! I have the next two brews planned but il have to check in with you after that and see how it's going and cash in on your hard work hahaha!


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[kiwirevo]

Yeah . . . I cant really imagine smoke plus big hop character going well, perhaps if you went supper earthy and spicy type hops. . . . Bt yeah I would guess more late addition than dry hop.

Pretty pumped some one else is playing around with this! I have the next two brews planned but il have to check in with you after that and see how it's going and cash in on your hard work hahaha!


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Yeah absolutely, I'll let you know.

I won't be doing the boil in the kitchen like I did when I did the peated one, although my wife wasn't too upset about the pungent bacon aroma hanging around for 3 days. That was when I was still doing partials or only small batch all grains so I didn't have another burner.

 

[kiwirevo]

mmmmmmmmmmmmm manuka whiskey

I have a gorgeous copper pot still and some 2L barrels, turns out some pretty good results!

 

[Donmega]

So after the nightmare of my first biab I have today ordered a smash brew in addition to the wort chiller and thermometer the kids are giving my on Sunday... I will not be beaten I have no idea of what abv the first batch will be (not to fussed) but I have started to read about efficiency... I am trying not to confuse myself to much !!

Is their an easy to use calculator for Nz measurements ??


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[Jes2xu]

So after the nightmare of my first biab I have today ordered a smash brew in addition to the wort chiller and thermometer the kids are giving my on Sunday... I will not be beaten I have no idea of what abv the first batch will be (not to fussed) but I have started to read about efficiency... I am trying not to confuse myself to much !!

Is their an easy to use calculator for Nz measurements ??


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Hi man, yeah dont let it beat you!!

I just went through getting it all sorted in my mind as well. It's kinda hard to get started, but once you start to get it all starts to make sense.

Do you have a way to read the specific gravity of your wort? A hydrometer or a refractometer?

As for the calculations it's a pain in the ass having to convert everything to american units huh! I would say it depends on exactly what you need, what you personally like and how much $$$ you want to spend on software. In saying that you can find most calculators free and online.

I'm not a experienced brewer dude......but I am a geek when it comes to software etc. so if you want to discuss any of it give me a PM.


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[ol-hazza]

Brewersfriend.com is the calculator I use, and find it pretty bloody handy alround.

My biab first attempt came out at 65% with a batch sparge but not squeezing the bag, which should raise the efficiency to 70 or so. It was also milled fairly roughly.
Im also moving to a smash brew using pale ale and cascade, getting my grain from the brew house as they have a special, and gave requested the grain be double milled.

Off to see the ab's this weekend though so the beer will have to wait a week.

 

[Jes2xu]

Yeah sorry i just realised how yoda like my rant was hahaha.

I have tried beersmith, beeralchemy, promash, ibeermaster, beer recipee calculator and fermenticus.

I have decided to use beeralchemy and ibrewmaster togeather. But like i said I think its kinda a personal thing.

Beeralchemy and beersmith (and I think promash) do free trials on PC and mac. Grab those and have a play


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[Pkrd]

I use brewpal on the iThing.
Usually just grab a recipe from here or wherever, the software swaps units and scales with the volume.
Great on brew night because it tells me when the mash is done and when to add each hop addition.

Pretty cheap too.
http://www.djpsoftware.com/brewpal/

 

[crusader1612]

Brewersfriend.com is the calculator I use, and find it pretty bloody handy alround.

My biab first attempt came out at 65% with a batch sparge but not squeezing the bag, which should raise the efficiency to 70 or so. It was also milled fairly roughly.
Im also moving to a smash brew using pale ale and cascade, getting my grain from the brew house as they have a special, and gave requested the grain be double milled.

Off to see the ab's this weekend though so the beer will have to wait a week.

Enjoy the game buddy! Should be a good one, although a bit wet by the sounds.

65% is a good starting point for BIAB, I hit 68% as I normally do a mashout step with mine. (I BIAB, for Speed and minimising equipment) Plenty of stirring for even temperature really helps.
I use Beersmith, and while it take a little time to adjust the settings to suit your system, I've got it down pat now.
68% Religiously on average 1.045-1.065 beers, then it take a total hits and moves toward 60% very rapidly.....
The milling does play a good part, baylands in welly are good along with craft brewing.co.nz
Brewshop.co.nz i found the crush to be a bit poor TBH, but I haven't used them for awhile.

 

[ol-hazza]

Enjoy the game buddy! Should be a good one, although a bit wet by the sounds.

65% is a good starting point for BIAB, I hit 68% as I normally do a mashout step with mine. (I BIAB, for Speed and minimising equipment) Plenty of stirring for even temperature really helps.
I use Beersmith, and while it take a little time to adjust the settings to suit your system, I've got it down pat now.
68% Religiously on average 1.045-1.065 beers, then it take a total hits and moves toward 60% very rapidly.....
The milling does play a good part, baylands in welly are good along with craft brewing.co.nz
Brewshop.co.nz i found the crush to be a bit poor TBH, but I haven't used them for awhile.

I just couldn't resist paying $2.25/kg at the brew house, although with the shipping it didn't work out all that much cheaper than Hauraki who I usually use. Would much prefer to use a local supplier but we dont have a dedicated HB store in Taranaki that I know of.

Yeh its my first time in napier, everyone has been saying how sunny it always is there.....

 

[crusader1612]

I just couldn't resist paying $2.25/kg at the brew house, although with the shipping it didn't work out all that much cheaper than Hauraki who I usually use. Would much prefer to use a local supplier but we dont have a dedicated HB store in Taranaki that I know of.

Yeh its my first time in napier, everyone has been saying how sunny it always is there.....

Nah probably wouldn't. lol.
Go the AB's Good to see Beauden get his first start too!

 

[ol-hazza]

Good opportunity to check out the Hawkes Bay Independant brewery as well

 

[kiwirevo]

4 brew weekend for me this weekend, got the first one done, The Good Ship Imperial, an IIPA with Centennial, Columbus and Waimea. Second mash is on which is another IIPA with only Waimea, called Waimea Pure and is the third time I've brewed it but each time has been different.
Then tomorrow I'm going to brew Cascading Lime, my Belgian Wheat beer with NZ Cascade and lime, again. And finally the full Manuka smoked malt brew. Busy busy ☺

 

[Donmega]

4 brew weekend for me this weekend, got the first one done, The Good Ship Imperial, an IIPA with Centennial, Columbus and Waimea. Second mash is on which is another IIPA with only Waimea, called Waimea Pure and is the third time I've brewed it but each time has been different.
Then tomorrow I'm going to brew Cascading Lime, my Belgian Wheat beer with NZ Cascade and lime, again. And finally the full Manuka smoked malt brew. Busy busy ☺

That's an impressive weekend brewing !! Stocking up for Christmas ?? !!



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[kiwirevo]

That's an impressive weekend brewing !! Stocking up for Christmas ?? !!



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No, national homebrew comp. this weekend is the last chance for me to get some brews ready.
Both today's brews went to plan although for some reason my efficiency on the second fell a little.
I will probably do a small cider trial tomorrow too, just some good apple juice and yeast, not for the comp.


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[Donmega]

No, national homebrew comp. this weekend is the last chance for me to get some brews ready.
Both today's brews went to plan although for some reason my efficiency on the second fell a little.
I will probably do a small cider trial tomorrow too, just some good apple juice and yeast, not for the comp.


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Awesome man !! Good luck with the comp !!


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[kiwirevo]

Cheer Donmega .
Is anyone else entering?


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[crusader1612]

Cheer Donmega .
Is anyone else entering?


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I will be as usual.
Robust porter went in yesterday.
English brown ale.
100% Brett saison.
And a session pale ale using last years blonde recipe and hopping it up with el dorado hops 100%.
And of course if my SJPORR Beer doesn't go any further. I'll have a couple of bottles of that I can send.


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[Pkrd]

Cheer Donmega .
Is anyone else entering?

Details?

 

[ol-hazza]

I'm thinking of entering my pale ale but have to wait n see what it adtes like, was my first ag and tasted a bit rough going into the bottle though so will see how it turns out. It would be my first comp so its nervous times.

In other news inchecked out the filter room just out of napier in the weekend. Well worth checking out if you find yourself in the area, some damn good cider n beers

 

[Donmega]

Hi All, further to my recent posts in regards to my first BIAB ipa disaster !! So last night I transferred it to a secondary as it had been in cold crash for a couple of days and I wanted to clear the beer up more before bottling and also get if off the trub. Probably bottle this weekend. So now for my questions..

I have ended up with 17 litres at a gravity reading of 1028, it has done fermenting so has the cold temp effected the reading I did last-night ?

When I mashed this brew I did so far to hot and also didn't allow for enough water in my boil hence 17 litres of beer (trub was a few litres)

Could this be effecting the reading ?

It didn't taste as sweet as I expected after feedback said it would be sweet but I had already had a couple of beers by then !!

I will persist with this batch lol


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[ol-hazza]

The cold temp would only effect the reading by a point or two, so it is still high.
What was your grain bill? We can have a look at estimating your OG

 

[Donmega]

The cold temp would only effect the reading by a point or two, so it is still high.
What was your grain bill? We can have a look at estimating your OG

5.0kg pale malt, 0.56kg biscuit malt, 0.56kg Munich malt is what the recipes instructions said... Est OG 1060 and Fg 1016



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[crusader1612]

5.0kg pale malt, 0.56kg biscuit malt, 0.56kg Munich malt is what the recipes instructions said... Est OG 1060 and Fg 1016



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Mash Temp?
What Yeast you use?

 

[Donmega]

Mash Temp?

What Yeast you use?

77 degrees, dropped to 66 after 1 hr and lots of stirring.. Safale us 05 yeast..


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[ol-hazza]

Looks pretty standard.

Im guessing the temperature of the mash was too high and has released dextrins which are an unfermentable sugar.

Although it could also be bad/insufficient yeast or lack of aeration affecting the fermentation.

Thats as much help as I can be unfortunately, being a noob myself.

 

[crusader1612]

Looks pretty standard.

Im guessing the temperature of the mash was too high and has released dextrins which are an unfermentable sugar.

Although it could also be bad/insufficient yeast or lack of aeration affecting the fermentation.

Thats as much help as I can be unfortunately, being a noob myself.

77 mash temp is very high!
I had an issue once, where I masheda porter at 70, and ended up at 1.028.
SO I think your doing prettywell.

 

[ol-hazza]

I was talking about the recipe when I said it looked pretty standard, didn't see those other 2 posts regarding mash temp and yeast