New Zealand Brewers

[crusader1612]

Macros, you get any scores from your beers entered?

 

[crusader1612]

I meant to say... I got way way closer to my target volumes this time, and after leaving over night and letting it all settle, the trub in the bottom is at least half as much maybe more!!! Which to me means more beer in the fermenter, not significant, but i might get another bottle out of it? I'l let you know how much it affects the cleanliness of the beer...

 

[NZLunchie]

Mashing in my Rhubarb Saison now, gone old school using the stop top since its a little baby (15L).
Check me out on Twitter @jfran009 for live updates

 

[crusader1612]

Dammit Lunchie !
I see you targetted that Orange Pale Ale Recipe, which I also have earmarked... lol let me know how it turns out, despite your little hiccup. I'm kkeen to do this in the new year, once Christmas is all out of the way.

Racking tonight onto my boysenberries and blueberries, I flagged the pineapple plan at this stage. Pureed and sitting on campden tablets now.
Photos to follow...

 

[mac-the-brewer]

Mashing in my Rhubarb Saison now, gone old school using the stop top since its a little baby (15L).
Check me out on Twitter @jfran009 for live updates

Gidday Lunchie, despite my login I'm a complete brewing virgin! After making a pizza oven for a mate, and building a tandoor oven for home I thought I would have a crack at brewing. Never one to walk before I can run I'm going All-Grain from the get-go. I can't get enough of Epic Pale Ale and am looking at that as my first brew. Do you recommend the EPA or your AAA version? The brew shop I will use (in Albany - I'm in Whangaparaoa) doesn't have the Golden Promise malt ... where can I get some from? Cheers.

 

[NZLunchie]

Dammit Lunchie !
I see you targetted that Orange Pale Ale Recipe, which I also have earmarked... lol let me know how it turns out, despite your little hiccup. I'm kkeen to do this in the new year, once Christmas is all out of the way.

Racking tonight onto my boysenberries and blueberries, I flagged the pineapple plan at this stage. Pureed and sitting on campden tablets now.
Photos to follow...

Yeah bro, it'll be beer at the end of the day aye, so no worries. It smelt amazing when I threw it all in the fermenter. I also used random oranges I had in the fruit bowl, no idea what they were. But yeah man I'll let you know how it goes

I've got the rhubarb in the freezer, I cut it, washed it and threw it in the freezer, so hope that's enough to get rid of any goobies on it, if not, I might have my first sour beer :cross:

Gidday Lunchie, despite my login I'm a complete brewing virgin! After making a pizza oven for a mate, and building a tandoor oven for home I thought I would have a crack at brewing. Never one to walk before I can run I'm going All-Grain from the get-go. I can't get enough of Epic Pale Ale and am looking at that as my first brew. Do you recommend the EPA or your AAA version? The brew shop I will use (in Albany - I'm in Whangaparaoa) doesn't have the Golden Promise malt ... where can I get some from? Cheers.

Hey Mac, welcome to the madness First off, good choice on the Epic Pale Ale choice. Top beer IMHO! As for the recipe, I'd recommend my third attempt and by far the greatest beer I've made, if I do say so myself, the ManawaBrew Pale Ale. It uses the same malt base as the Epic Pale Ale clone, but I threw Cascade and Motueka at it. If you want the recipe, let me know and I'll chuck it up.

Personally, I'd experiment. If you can do two batches one following the clone to a T and the other, just play. I like lots of aroma and flavour so I through more hops in during the boil from 15mins - 0min and dry hop it more than the clone says. Personal preference.

As for the Golden Promise, I use The Brew House in Wellington. Brilliant service and their crush seems to be bang on. I've got above 70% in the last two brews and the 2 I did before that I got into the 80% and that's BIAB!!!


Anyone noticed that Black Rock have some recipe's on their website? More than they had when I started brewing thats for sure!

 

[mac-the-brewer]

Thanks for your response and the info, Lunchie. I'm with you on the aroma and flavor, so would appreciate your recipe for the ManawaBrew Pale Ale.

 

[NZLunchie]

Thanks for your response and the info, Lunchie. I'm with you on the aroma and flavor, so would appreciate your recipe for the ManawaBrew Pale Ale.

Ask and you shall receive
https://www.homebrewtalk.com/f66/manawabrew-pale-ale-367164/#post4581098

 

[mahe]

Hi all

I do both kits and small batch all grain brewing. Does anyone know of a good grain mill or might have some input for a design that will work? I want to crush my own grain, it is way too expensive to buy the already chrushed at my regular vendor (Hauraki, in Albany).

And on a side note, anyone going to any interestin homwbrew festivals/gatherings?

 

[mahe]

Does any of you Auckland brewers know anything about the water around the North Shore or Auckland in general? how hard, chlorine/cloramine, mineral composition etc.

 

[mahe]

Found the answer on my own, my Google-Fu is strong.

http://nzic.org.nz/ChemProcesses/water/13B.pdf

Toodles.

Does any of you Auckland brewers know anything about the water around the North Shore or Auckland in general? how hard, chlorine/cloramine, mineral composition etc.

 

[crusader1612]

For those who haven't seen it: http://www.forum.realbeer.co.nz/profiles/blogs/brewing-a-good-nz-pale-ale?xg_source=activity
Its a blog from the Champion Beer Winner on Brewinga good NZ Pale Ale, interesting read

 

[Dubnorix]

Found the answer on my own, my Google-Fu is strong.

http://nzic.org.nz/ChemProcesses/water/13B.pdf

Toodles.

Cheers for that mate, been looking for that, now to work out what the shore/albany area is and make some adjustments.

 

[mahe]

I contacted the local water guy, turns out he is "Auckland" water guy too.

I take the report and ad a twinch of gypsum to get a perfect 5.4 in my small batch (6L).
I guess its triall and error to get it spot on.

 

[NZLunchie]

Saison, meet Rhubarb:

Ghetto cold crash, thanks to Crusader:

Orange Cascade Pale Ale on the right, Rhubarb Saison on the left:

 

[mahe]

Ghetto cold crash, thanks to Crusader:

Is that a frozen Pure Dew?

 

[crusader1612]

Saison, meet Rhubarb:

Ghetto cold crash, thanks to Crusader:

Orange Cascade Pale Ale on the right, Rhubarb Saison on the left:

Hahaha, I can't takle all the credit lunchie. Looking good though. how does the orange taste, once i get it all set upo, i'm going to split a batch of it, and go half pale ale and half saison.

GFruit beer is starting to look good,taste is still not there yet, lovely red/purple colours on both the blue berry one and the boysenberry one.

the rhubarb thing is interesting though...:fro:

 

[NZLunchie]

Hahaha, I can't takle all the credit lunchie. Looking good though. how does the orange taste, once i get it all set upo, i'm going to split a batch of it, and go half pale ale and half saison.

GFruit beer is starting to look good,taste is still not there yet, lovely red/purple colours on both the blue berry one and the boysenberry one.

the rhubarb thing is interesting though...:fro:

Lol, credit is all yours, you told me about it
Not as orange and coriander as I thought it would. There is a slight spicy note right at the end, so I guess the coriander is there, just not as much as I thought. All good though, its still a good drop so far!

Yeah the rhubarb is a massive experiment. If it works I think I'll look at a rhubarb crumble recipe. Be a seasonal beer, maybe make it in the summer for the winter....Be nice on a cold day!!!

 

[crusader1612]

Lol, credit is all yours, you told me about it
Not as orange and coriander as I thought it would. There is a slight spicy note right at the end, so I guess the coriander is there, just not as much as I thought. All good though, its still a good drop so far!

Yeah the rhubarb is a massive experiment. If it works I think I'll look at a rhubarb crumble recipe. Be a seasonal beer, maybe make it in the summer for the winter....Be nice on a cold day!!!

How Long are u leaving it on the rhubarb? I personally wouldn't leave it in there too long?

whaty you guys make of this? I';m doing a brown ale... all NZ Hops, Nelson and Motueka, quite fitting considering whrre i'll be spending my new years, lol.

4kg Pale Malt
0.5kg wheat
0.31kg biscuit
0.25kg pale chocolate (300L)
0.25kg pale crystal (50L)
0.2kg medium crystal (80L)
50g Carafa II (550L)
Choc and Carafa will be added at 10mins left in mash.
YEAST: US-05 x 2 packs most likely
1tsp Irish moss @ 10 mins
Forthe hops I'm going all later additions, no bittering, as withthe amount, I should come up around 45-50IBU
for the boil its ratio of 2:1 Motueka:Nelson Sauvin
20g Motueka @ 30
10g Nelson @ 30
20g Motueka @ 15
10g Nelson @ 15
30g Motueka @ 5
15g Nelson @ 5
then its a ratio of 3:1 Motueka:Sauvin
40g Motueka @ FO
13-14g Nelson @FO
DryHop1: 45g Motueka @ 10 days, 15g Nelson @10 days
Dryhop2: 45g Motueka @ 5 Days, 15g Nelson @ 5 Days
any feed back would be good, as I'll be gettingthis done after my trip to Oz.

 

[NZLunchie]

How Long are u leaving it on the rhubarb? I personally wouldn't leave it in there too long?

5 days then I'll taste and see how it is. I'm not to worried if it goes bad, I'll just make it into a sour beer :cross:

whaty you guys make of this? I';m doing a brown ale... all NZ Hops, Nelson and Motueka, quite fitting considering whrre i'll be spending my new years, lol.

4kg Pale Malt
0.5kg wheat
0.31kg biscuit
0.25kg pale chocolate (300L)
0.25kg pale crystal (50L)
0.2kg medium crystal (80L)
50g Carafa II (550L)
Choc and Carafa will be added at 10mins left in mash.
YEAST: US-05 x 2 packs most likely
1tsp Irish moss @ 10 mins
Forthe hops I'm going all later additions, no bittering, as withthe amount, I should come up around 45-50IBU
for the boil its ratio of 2:1 Motueka:Nelson Sauvin
20g Motueka @ 30
10g Nelson @ 30
20g Motueka @ 15
10g Nelson @ 15
30g Motueka @ 5
15g Nelson @ 5
then its a ratio of 3:1 Motueka:Sauvin
40g Motueka @ FO
13-14g Nelson @FO
DryHop1: 45g Motueka @ 10 days, 15g Nelson @10 days
Dryhop2: 45g Motueka @ 5 Days, 15g Nelson @ 5 Days
any feed back would be good, as I'll be gettingthis done after my trip to Oz.

I'm not a huge fan of NS, but you had me Motueka. By far my favourite hop!! I'd throw more in it if I was you

 

[crusader1612]

5 days then I'll taste and see how it is. I'm not to worried if it goes bad, I'll just make it into a sour beer :cross:

I'm not a huge fan of NS, but you had me Motueka. By far my favourite hop!! I'd throw more in it if I was you

I've heard that a 3:1 ratio gives something similar to riwaka which is why I went this route. There plenty of ibus without the 60 min addition. Looking forward to it

 

[mac-the-brewer]

Hi Lunchie, not sure what just happened to my question, but it went somewhere! Anyway, I'm doing my first ever batch on Sunday (Epic Pale Ale ... your version next!) but am having sleepless nights wondering how to control the temperature of the fermenter. Do you have any cunning ideas (preferably cheap!).

Cheers,
Richard.

 

[NZLunchie]

Hi Lunchie, not sure what just happened to my question, but it went somewhere! Anyway, I'm doing my first ever batch on Sunday (Epic Pale Ale ... your version next!) but am having sleepless nights wondering how to control the temperature of the fermenter. Do you have any cunning ideas (preferably cheap!).

Cheers,
Richard.

Awesome! Have fun brewin'

In all honesty, I've never worried about it. I just throw it in the hot water cupboard and leave it. We no longer have the water cylinder in there though so if I don't notice the bubbling air lock I'll put a blanket around the fermenter and leave it. I've never had fermentation issues with it in there and the beer comes out more than drinkable

If it gets to hot, I guess a swamp cooler could work, but you'd run the risk of it getting into lager temps.....

 

[icecaster]

Grab one of these: http://www.trademe.co.nz/home-living/food-beverage/other-beverages/auction-536578184.htm or
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All you need is a little plastic box and a 2m extension cord to wire it all up.
You can then attach the temp sensor with blue tack to the fermenter and control any heating source you like with it.
Preferably a heating pad (~$40)

 

[mac-the-brewer]

Thanks for that, Icecaster. I have just been on TradeMe and bought one. My first brew was meant to be last weekend, but I was forced to go fishing on a mate's flash boat. What's a man to do?

 

[crusader1612]

So I caved in and decided to hold my NZ Brown until after Christmas. With one more learning brew on my new setup. And the credit on my change goes to the inspirations how have with the orange cascade pale ale which is what I'll be doing this weekend an exact replica cos I have us cascade in my fridge. Followed closely by the same again with 2 changes. An additional 1kg of wheat malt and ill be using liquid yeast 3711 Saison which I think will go well with the flavours already present in this particular recipe. Then ill do my brown. Then it'll be brew shed building time..... Along with keg starting. Might have to start a blog like you mate

 

[NZLunchie]

So I caved in and decided to hold my NZ Brown until after Christmas. With one more learning brew on my new setup. And the credit on my change goes to the inspirations how have with the orange cascade pale ale which is what I'll be doing this weekend an exact replica cos I have us cascade in my fridge. Followed closely by the same again with 2 changes. An additional 1kg of wheat malt and ill be using liquid yeast 3711 Saison which I think will go well with the flavours already present in this particular recipe. Then ill do my brown. Then it'll be brew shed building time..... Along with keg starting. Might have to start a blog like you mate

Yeah the Orange Cascade seems to be a good drop aye. I'll put some tasting notes up once I've had a taste around Christmas time.

I'm doing a Vienna/Centennial SMaSH on Saturday, figured National Crate Day I may as well brew

Yeah a blog is a good way to keep track of what you do

 

[crusader1612]

Nice Vienna Centennial SMaSH sounds good. I'll be participating in a kit beer for carte day, lol its been conditioning for about 6 weeks. bottled the blueberry part of my beer last night, as i bottled the boysenberry last week, and thegraf was bottled sunday afternoon.

 

[crusader1612]

Hey Lunchie, what sort of temps do you mash at? do you follow the recipes, as its BIAB, or do you heat your strike water and just chuck in the grains and mash, i guess for BIAB you can up the heat easier than Cooler Mashing. just interested to see

 

[NZLunchie]

Hey Lunchie, what sort of temps do you mash at? do you follow the recipes, as its BIAB, or do you heat your strike water and just chuck in the grains and mash, i guess for BIAB you can up the heat easier than Cooler Mashing. just interested to see

Depends on the recipe. I basically follow whatever BrewMate tells me it should be. I heat the water, with the bag in, to 5 - 10 degrees higher than what it should be then throw the grains in, give it a real good stir then I should hit the mash temp bang on. I'll check it and give it a stir through the mash and if it needs heat, I'll jump chuck the little burner on.