New NY brewing law being pushed

[CreamyGoodness]

Another thing I was just thinking is if we could convince New Yorkers that good quality apfelwein is something that they want to drink we could get it on the shelves within the law's guidelines easily. With so few ingredients and ingredient #1 being New York apples (perhaps New York water if forced to make a concentrate), it seems like a no brainer. Long before us New Yorkers were making whiskey we were making apple jack, and lots of it... maybe this is could be a return to our roots with a twist.

 

[Airborneguy]

Agreed, but for cider. I hate apfelwein.

 

[CreamyGoodness]

...or cider... I like cider too...

 

[nyer]

I wish I knew this law was coming a few years ago so I could have started a hop farm. We have several hop farms around us and they sell the whole crop before it's harvested every year. There is no way they could plant enough hops in the near future to keep up with local demand. We have 3 new microbreweries opening soon and another distillery. I was at a local brewery last week and he thinks the biggest problem will be getting the barley malted, he seemed to think it had to be done in NY? He did say that he was going to save lots of money when he can change his license.

 

[Vernacular]

Another thing I was just thinking is if we could convince New Yorkers that good quality apfelwein is something that they want to drink we could get it on the shelves within the law's guidelines easily. With so few ingredients and ingredient #1 being New York apples (perhaps New York water if forced to make a concentrate), it seems like a no brainer. Long before us New Yorkers were making whiskey we were making apple jack, and lots of it... maybe this is could be a return to our roots with a twist.

The first hooch I ever made was apple jack from FFA cider that turned on us before wee could sell it all. I managed to take possesion of it... by the New Year it was very nice stuff. I was out in the wood shed ast the back of the house and it froze. Welll.... My buddy and I got it drizzling into bottles during the Christmas break ... not a drop was wasted... but we were.

 

[thughes]

It's looking good:

Albany, NY (June 14, 2012)

Governor Andrew M. Cuomo, Majority Leader Dean Skelos, and Assembly Speaker Sheldon Silver today announced an agreement on legislation that will strengthen and help grow New York State's vibrant craft beer industry.



The legislation is designed to support New York's breweries and wineries, increase demand for locally grown farm products, and expand industry-related economic development and tourism. The legislation will protect an important tax benefit for small breweries that produce beer in New York, exempt breweries that produce small batches of beer (regardless of location) from paying an annual State Liquor Authority fee, and create a Farm Brewery license that will allow craft brewers to expand their operations through opening restaurants or selling new products.



"New York's craft breweries are not just creating great beer that is consumed across the world, they are creating jobs, supporting farmers and our hops growers, and bringing in tourism dollars all across the state," Governor Cuomo said. "This is a big victory for our craft brewers and will help New York's already vibrant beer industry continue to grow. This shows that New York State is truly open to business once again, and I thank Majority Leader Skelos, Speaker Silver, and the legislative sponsors for their hard work in reaching this agreement."

http://www.governor.ny.gov/press/06142012-craft-breweries

 

[Fly_Rodder]

Under the agreement, any brewery that produces 60 million or less gallons of beer in New York would be eligible for a refundable tax credit applied against New York State personal income and business taxes. The credit amounts would be 14 cents per gallon for the first 500,000 gallons produced in New York, and 4.5 cents per gallon for the next 15 million gallons produced in the State.

I'm all for helping the little guys get established, but that's 2m barrels/year. Giving huge corporate breweries (ahem, Bud) significant tax breaks, just gives them more an advantage then they already have.

The label payment exemption is pretty nice for the smaller breweries though.

 

[maximep]

hmmm what about kilning? is this permitted to occur outside of NY state? seems stringent but a good step forward nonetheless.

 

[jdowling]

So it looks like this will go into effect sometime in July 2013? Sounds like Cuomo signed it and reading the text of the law it says it goes into effect 180 days after it's signed. I'm not a lawyer or anything but that's how I read it.

 

[iaefebs]

Oh hell, now spammers are going to spam in older threads?

 

[porcupine73]

Um so you're a month late calling out the spammer, who happens to be linking to a .gov site? hehe ok no problem. Yes it's funny, something like this law tries to get passed every couple years here in the People's Republic of New York. The grocery stores always like it, because it means they can sell wine in addition to beer. Ok hm I think that one already passed. Funny thing is I have yet to see beer for sale in liquor stores around here. Well whatever it is, don't worry, whoever stands to make the most money and has bought the most politicians will win in the end. OR, if California happened to pass a similar law recently, well heck, that's a shoe in in NY.

 

[iaefebs]

Um so you're a month late calling out the spammer, who happens to be linking to a .gov site? hehe ok no problem. Yes it's funny, something like this law tries to get passed every couple years here in the People's Republic of New York. The grocery stores always like it, because it means they can sell wine in addition to beer. Ok hm I think that one already passed. Funny thing is I have yet to see beer for sale in liquor stores around here. Well whatever it is, don't worry, whoever stands to make the most money and has bought the most politicians will win in the end.

It was a today post.I didn't want to quote it and notified the mods. The post was removed. So it only looks like I was a month late.

 

[porcupine73]

Ohhhh ok got it now, phew I like to jump to conclusions. Though I do stand by the rest of my post! (Except if the PR of NY calls me to court to question it, in which case I have no idea what they're talking about, and, hm, it's probably, like identity theft, or something like that).

 

[jdowling]

It was a today post.I didn't want to quote it and notified the mods. The post was removed. So it only looks like I was a month late.

Ah I saw your post and wasn't sure how I came across as a spammer. It all makes sense now .

I was idly trying to figure out what it would take to get one of these licenses and figured I'd post that it looks like it passed.

I'd be curious to know what they found out if anyone has actually looked into it in more detail. I read that it will lower the tax burden on small breweries by quite a lot.

 

[Vernacular]

Hey check this out! It seems there is going to be a malthouse in Batavia, New York.

http://thedailynewsonline.com/news/article_2a6b17ee-4f59-11e2-a4fe-0019bb2963f4.html

 

[+HopSpunge+]

Sweet. It sounds like in the article, that he is alredy making the malt. I wounder if it could be bought somewere.