New hop blends

[bellsbrat]

Has anyone made or tried anything commercially with zythos or 7c's that really stood out. I've seen mixed opinions,seems like a lot of not so good about zythos hope too hear some success with these hops

 

[bellsbrat]

Nothin

 

[PintoBean]

I made this, haven't got it carbed yet, but it tasted fantastic when racking.

BeerSmith 2 Recipe Printout - http://www.beersmith.com
Recipe: Falconer's APA
Brewer: Brandon
Asst Brewer:
Style: American Pale Ale
TYPE: All Grain
Taste: (30.0)

Recipe Specifications
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Boil Size: 6.72 gal
Post Boil Volume: 5.72 gal
Batch Size (fermenter): 5.00 gal
Bottling Volume: 4.50 gal
Estimated OG: 1.046 SG
Estimated Color: 6.2 SRM
Estimated IBU: 59.9 IBUs
Brewhouse Efficiency: 72.00 %
Est Mash Efficiency: 79.2 %
Boil Time: 60 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amt Name Type # %/IBU
8 lbs Pale Malt, Golden Promise (Thomas Fawcet Grain 1 94.1 %
8.0 oz Caramel Malt - 40L (Cargill) (40.0 SRM) Grain 2 5.9 %
0.5000 oz Falconer's Flight [10.50 %] - First Wort Hop 3 22.3 IBUs
0.5000 oz Falconer's Flight [10.50 %] - Boil 20.0 Hop 4 12.3 IBUs
0.5000 oz Falconer's Flight [10.50 %] - Boil 15.0 Hop 5 10.0 IBUs
0.5000 oz Falconer's Flight [10.50 %] - Boil 10.0 Hop 6 7.3 IBUs
1.0000 oz Falconer's Flight [10.50 %] - Boil 5.0 m Hop 7 8.1 IBUs
1.0000 oz Falconer's Flight [10.50 %] - Boil 0.0 m Hop 8 0.0 IBUs
1.0 pkg San Diego Super Yeast (White Labs #WLP09 Yeast 9 -
2.0000 oz Falconer's Flight [10.50 %] - Dry Hop 7. Hop 10 0.0 IBUs


Mash Schedule: Single Infusion, Medium Body, Batch Sparge
Total Grain Weight: 8 lbs 8.0 oz
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Name Description Step Temperat Step Time
Mash In Add 10.63 qt of water at 163.7 F 152.0 F 60 min

Sparge: Batch sparge with 2 steps (1.97gal, 3.61gal) of 168.0 F water
Notes:
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[bellsbrat]

looks great let us know how it turns out, would love to hear a success with the zythos or 7 c's as I have about a pound between the two

 

[PintoBean]

Will do. I have a pound each as well of zythos and 7c's I plan on brewing similar beers with to test them out.

 

[skeezerpleezer]

I made a Zythos IPA and a Falconer 7C pale, both were great. The kegs kicked very quickly. I will post the recipes this weekend when I get back to my beersmith if you are interested.

 

[bellsbrat]

Yeah that would be great and maybe some tasting notes on each if possible

 

[gstrawn]

I personally like zythos. I felt it was kinda like simcoe but with noticeable c hops

 

[jerryboy]

Would these new blends mix well together? FF, 7Cs and Zythos?

 

[bellsbrat]

Would these new blends mix well together? FF, 7Cs and Zythos?

Blend of blends?

 

[skeezerpleezer]

Would these new blends mix well together? FF, 7Cs and Zythos?

They are fairly similar, and contain some of the same hops. I don't see a reason to use them together, but they should mix well together.

 

[skeezerpleezer]

Yeah that would be great and maybe some tasting notes on each if possible

Falconer's 7Cs Pale Ale
Brew Type: All Grain
Style: American Pale Ale
Batch Size: 5.50 gal
Boil Volume: 7.00 gal
Boil Time: 60 min
Original Gravity: 1.052 SG
Final Gravity: 1.013 SG
Estimated Color: 5.9 SRM (5.0-14.0 SRM)
Bitterness: 45.9 IBU

Ingredients Amount Item Type % or IBU
8.00 lb Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 80.0 %
1.00 lb Caramel/Crystal Malt - 20L (15.0 SRM) Grain 10.0 %
1.00 lb Munich Malt - 10L (10.0 SRM) Grain 10.0 %
0.50 oz Bravo [14.30%] (60 min) Hops 24.3 IBU
1.00 oz Falconer's 7 C's [9.90%] (15 min) Hops 16.7 IBU
0.75 oz Falconer's 7 C's [9.90%] (5 min) Hops 5.0 IBU
0.75 oz Falconer's 7 C's [9.90%] (0 min) Hops -
1.50 oz Falconer's 7 C's [9.90%] (Dry Hop 7 days) Hops -
1 Pkgs California Ale (DCL Yeast #S-05) Yeast-Ale

Mashed at 154
Fermented at 65 for 12 days, dryhop 7 days, then force carbed
Lot of citrus/grapefruit aroma/flavor. Some fruitiness, and hints of spiciness. This beer is very smooth/balanced, focusing more on the hop flavor than hop bitterness. I had a few non-pale/ipa drinkers (actually, BMC drinkers) like this one a lot. I have been asked to brew this again soon, and probably will make another keg for a friends party that is coming up since everyone liked it so much.


Zythos IPA
Brew Type: All Grain
Style: American IPA
Batch Size: 5.75
Boil Volume: 7.29 gal
Boil Time: 60 min
Original Gravity: 1.062 SG
Final Gravity: 1.013 SG
Estimated Color: 8.6 SRM
Bitterness: 66.7 IBU

Ingredients Amount Item Type % or IBU
10.00 lb Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 76.9 %
1.50 lb Munich Malt - 10L (10.0 SRM) Grain 11.5 %
0.50 lb Carafoam (2.0 SRM) Grain 3.8 %
0.50 lb Caramel/Crystal Malt - 20L (15.0 SRM) Grain 3.8 %
0.50 lb Caramel/Crystal Malt - 60L (60.0 SRM) Grain 3.8 %
1.00 oz Bravo [14.30%] (60 min) Hops 43.6 IBU
1.00 oz Zythos [10.90%] (15 min) Hops 16.5 IBU
1.00 oz Zythos [10.90%] (5 min) Hops 6.6 IBU
1.00 oz Falconer's Flight [10.50%] (Dry Hop 7 days) Hops -
1.00 oz Zythos [10.90%] (0 min) Hops -
1.00 oz Zythos [10.90%] (Dry Hop 7 days) Hops -
1 Pkgs California Ale (DCL Yeast #S-05) Yeast-Ale

Mashed at 152
Fermented at 65 for 12 days, dryhop 7 days, then kegged
Similar to the 7Cs in the citrus/grapefruit department, but has some oranginess, tropical fruit, as well as some nice pineyness. I messed up and thought I had 2 oz left of Zythos for dryhop, but only had 1, so used an additional oz of regular Falconers. This nice light coppery color, little bit of sweetness from the caramel malts, but very balanced. I use this grain bill for a lot of IPAs, especially when trying out new hops. I plan to do one similar to this soon, subbing the new HBC342 hops for the Zythos.

I used the Bravo due to it's high alpha to get some bitterness so I could use more of the hop blends late. The blends would work fine for bittering also. Bottom line is that they are both great hop blends, and if/when i burn through my 8 or 9 lbs of Citra/Amarillo/Simcoe, I will turn to these as my go to hops. It is kind of nice getting the different hop characteristics and only having to measure out one hop per addition, rather than multiple hops.

 

[Rundownhouse]

There's a thread on Zythos with more peoples' experiences as well.