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drunkintimmy

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ok so i brewed some pumpkin ale with a friend and she decided to put tap water in the fermenting bucket wen i went to cool the mash i told her to use the filtered tap but didnt find out till it was to late now it has a plastic smell . wen i took it from the primary to the secondary it smelled really good let it sit in the secondary for almost 20 days due to injuries and stuff and didnt check the hydrometer regularly due to the fact i forgot wich im not happy with i read the plastic smell could be from not fermenting it long enough too i bottled it anyways last night with the plastc smell will it go away or is it junk
 
Holy run on sentence batman...kinda having trouble pulling details out of that.

But first off....I and many folks top off with tap water with no problems, if your not having a boil water advisory in your area, you tap water is really safe to use...I mean think about it, if it's safe enough for you to drink (which 99% of municipal water systems are) then it is safe to brew.

A plastic smell could be any number of things, and could be nothing. Just the smell of green beer. It really is hard to tell about a beer if you are smelling or tasting something in the fermenter.

It really is hard to judge a beer until it's been about 6 weeks in the bottle. Just because you taste (or smell) something in primary or secondary DOESN'T mean it will be there when the beer is fully conditioned (that's also the case with kegging too.)

The thing to remember though is that if you are smelling or tasting this during fermentation not to worry. During fermentation all manner of stinky stuff is given off (ask lager brewers about rotten egg/sulphur smells, or Apfelwein makers about "rhino farts,") like we often say, fermentation is often ugly AND stinky and PERFECTLY NORMAL.

It's really only down the line, AFTER the beer has been fermented (and often after it has bottle conditioned even,) that you concern yourself with any flavor issues if they are still there.

I think too many new brewers focus to much on this stuff too early in the beer's journey. And they panic unnecessarily.

A lot of the stuff you smell/taste initially more than likely ends up disappearing either during a long primary/primary & secondary combo, Diacetyl rests and even during bottle conditioning.

If I find a flavor/smell, I usually wait til it's been in the bottle 6 weeks before I try to "diagnose" what went wrong, that way I am sure the beer has passed any window of greenness.

Lagering is a prime example of this. Lager yeast are prone to the production of a lot of byproducts, the most familiar one is sulphur compounds (rhino farts) but in the dark cold of the lagering process, which is at the minimum of a month (I think many homebrewers don't lager long enough) the yeast slowly consumes all those compounds which results in extremely clean tasting beers if done skillfully.

Ales have their own version of this, but it's all the same. Time is your friend.

If you are sampling your beer before you have passed a 'window of greeness" which my experience is about 3-6 weeks in the bottle, then you are more than likely just experiencing an "off flavor" due to the presence of those byproducts (that's what we mean when we say the beer is "green" it's still young and unconditioned.) but once the process is done, over 90% of the time the flavors/smells are gone.

Of the remaining 10%, half of those may still be salvageable through the long time storage that I mention in the Never dump your beer!!! Patience IS a virtue!!! Time heals all things, even beer:

And the remaining 50% of the last 10% are where these tables and lists come into play. To understand what you did wrong, so you can avoid it in the future.

Long story short....I betcha that smell/flavor will be long gone when the beer is carbed and conditioned.

In other words, relax, your beer will be just fine, like 99.5%.

You can find more info on that in here;

Of Patience and Bottle Conditioning.

Just remember it will not be the same beer it is now, and you shouldn't stress what you are tasting right now.

Our beer is more resilient then most new brewers realize, and time can be a big healer. Just read the stories in this thread of mine, and see how many times a beer that someone thought was bad, turned out to be fine weeks later.

So just read this thread, and leave your beer alone for awhile. More than likely it will be just fine.

https://www.homebrewtalk.com/f39/ne...virtue-time-heals-all-things-even-beer-73254/
 
one more thing to add to revvys post... believe it or not I get a very plasticy/ rubbery smell out of my carboys a LOT.....it is the BUNG believe it or not. for some reason when I remove the bung around the rim of the carboy it has a very "rubbery" smell. ok everyone point and laugh now lol.
 
I get that "rubber" smell rom the bung with my cider all the time. I have never seemed to notice it with beer.
 
I ferment in buckets and carboys and I've noticed when ever I get a NEW bucket, I have to wash it a couple times in scalding hot water to get rid of that new plastic smell. Even my vinyl tubing gets washed all OCD like before use because it smells like plastic too.
 
thanks guys i wanna learn more about homebrewing but a book or to i have picked up seems to advanced, like its for a small brewery. then when u go online websites forums and stuff everyone says something different so its a little confusing starting out. i think it may be the the bung that did it because when i washed it after it had the same smell i let it soak all day and still smelled like plastic when i got home
 
Tap water is fine. To steal a line from Charlie Papizone "Relax, Don't Worry, Have a Homebrew." Unless you have a very refined, sensitive palate, most any beer you make will turn out fine. Don't stress so much. You will learn something new every time you brew. It would take a while for me to list all the lessons I learned just from brewing, and out of 50+ batches, I had only one that turned out undrinkable.
 
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