Never had a NEIPA

[JoeSpartaNJ]

This thread has really turned into people yelling "GET OFF MY LAWN" at each other.

Quite comical.

 

[superiorsat]

"Northeast" style IPA 18,505 posts as of just seconds ago.​

Every brewery around here has multiple NEIPA's on tap probably due to demand. It isn't just millennials and hipsters that go to breweries looking for this beer. Apparently the home brew community is deep into it as well. The people I know that like this style the most are lady's and the same goes for sours and fruited beers in general. I could be happy if I never had another ( I have had some very tasty NEIPA's though) but when selection is up to a decent hazy vs other subpar beers when we are out for supper I will often turn to pseudo sue ( seems like it is on tap everywhere here) because the other selections just aren't worth paying for and maybe pseudo sue isn't either but hey I don't eat supper without a beer so what do you do. LOL.

 

[Clint Yeastwood]

Ban the guy who started this thread!

 

[redrocker652002]

C'mon February!

AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[redrocker652002]

This thread has really turned into people yelling "GET OFF MY LAWN" at each other.

Quite comical.

More the one guy on the block that keeps yelling at the kids to get away from his house. LOL.

 

[Clint Yeastwood]

Seriously, though. Stay off my lawn.

 

[wdavis2003]

I love NEIPA's! Specifically, Double NEIPA's!!! and I don't care who that pisses off

 

[redrocker652002]

I love NEIPA's! Specifically, Double NEIPA's!!! and I don't care who that pisses off

Say it loud and proud. LOL

 

[Clint Yeastwood]

Start a website and call it NEIPAtism.

 

[JoeSpartaNJ]

Start a website and call it NEIPAtism.

Now that's funny

 

[wdavis2003]

 

[day_trippr]

I’m doing a dry January.

Well that explains a lot.
Thoughts and prayers...

 

[Agent]

At least I feel like a NEIPA is the best bargain in terms of buying commercial vs homebrew ingredient cost.

And from the craft brewers I talk to, anything is less soul-crushing than brewing hard seltzer non-stop.

 

[McMullan]

Closet hop cocktail makers in denial? It’s nothing to be ashamed about. Cocktails are legitimate beverages too.

https://www.foodrepublic.com/1304849/its-bitter-to-be-hoppy-rule-breaking-cocktail-ipa-lovers/
This one sounds like it’s crying out for some hazy. Hops and Dreams. “This hazy, hoppy cocktail is one for the dreamers. Fruity, zesty, sweet and sour. It’s got it all.”

https://www.jamesonwhiskey.com/en-gb/cocktail-recipes/hops-and-dreams/
I might have to make a hazy at this rate. Just a small one. I’ve got some Cryo hops hanging around with no plans. Citra and Pop Original.

 

[DBhomebrew]

Well, yeah. That's a legitimate cocktail. A blend of spirits.

But, you know, I don't care. Others do.

 

[Airborneguy]

Those of us who aren’t so keen on them, and those who downright hate them, are probably mostly annoyed by how dominant they have become.

I find I can’t randomly walk into a brewpub anymore without checking their beer list first because its almost a guarantee their offerings will mostly be hazies.

 

[Broken Crow]

@McMullan ; You were gone for a while and I really missed your historical posts that filled in more of the social/cultural part of brewing history, especially when Kviec's hit the scene, and I've missed your snark. Please don't die on this hill. I personally don't think of NEIPAs as beer, but rather; "Fruit Juice", and I've always associated "Hazy" with "Lazy"..though on a hot summer day I will order a single one to go with a hot spicy meal, I wouldn't bother keeping any around the house, nor can I bring myself to even think of it as 'beer' despite it's recognition as such my so many. I can't help but wonder what words a brewer from the 1600's would chose to describe a modern smoke-free. LODO pale-blonde lager? ..Would arguments about the lack of smoke in malting, the O2 permeability of sheep's intestine and fermenting temperatures ensue? Heck, there are shows on TV we have to call 'comedies', though the never have anything funny in them but have a laugh track layered over nothing, but they're still categorized as 'comedy' and while I chose not to watch them, I reluctanly accept the title.

 

[Clint Yeastwood]

Closet hop cocktail makers in denial? It’s nothing to be ashamed about. Cocktails are legitimate beverages too.

As long as they're real cocktails.

 

[mac_1103]

So no Aperol Spritz then?

 

[McMullan]

As long as they're real cocktails.

As real as the beer. Absolutely.

 

[JoeSpartaNJ]

cock·tail
/ˈkäkˌtāl/

noun
noun: cocktail; plural noun: cocktails
1.
an alcoholic drink consisting of a spirit or several spirits mixed with other ingredients, such as fruit juice, lemonade, or cream.


Understanding how beer, cider, wines and spirits differ is simple when you realize the differentiation is based on alcohol content and production terms.

Wine, beer, and cider are all alcohol but not spirits or liquor.

Spirits and liquor are the same thing in your glass but not in distillation process.

What they do have in common is they are all alcohol.

 

[McMullan]

cock·tail
/ˈkäkˌtāl/
noun
noun: cocktail; plural noun: cocktails
1.
an alcoholic drink consisting of a spirit or several spirits mixed with other ingredients, such as fruit juice, lemonade, or cream.


Understanding how beer, cider, wines and spirits differ is simple when you realize the differentiation is based on alcohol content and production terms.

Wine, beer, and cider are all alcohol but not spirits or liquor.

Spirits and liquor are the same thing in your glass but not in distillation process.

What they do have in common is they are all alcohol.

A very limited definition of a cocktail. Here’s one of the simplest beer cocktails:

https://www.christinascucina.com/how-to-make-a-traditional-british-shandy-the-proper-way/

 

[JoeSpartaNJ]

A very limited definition of a cocktail. Here’s one of the simplest beer cocktails:

https://www.christinascucina.com/how-to-make-a-traditional-british-shandy-the-proper-way/

Sure, a beer cocktail, with fruit.

Most commercial NEIPA does not have fruit added, just a specific combo of hops that give it fruity character. Yes, some have fruit added, but not a "traditional". Same goes for lactose, sour, and any other nonsense someone wants to throw in there. Do I endorse any of these non traditional additions?........absolutely not, I despise them in fact.

Out of curiosity, do you not consider Weiss-beer not real beer because it isn't clear.....by definition.

 

[McMullan]

Out of curiosity, do you not consider Weiss-beer not real beer because it isn't clear.....by definition.

I did type ‘with very few exceptions’, but even if you wanted to cherry-pick a cloudy weiss beer, it would be a bit of a stretch to say it was representative of the vast majority of beers.

 

[JoeSpartaNJ]

I did type ‘with very few exceptions’, but even if you wanted to cherry-pick a cloudy weiss beer, it would be a bit of a stretch to say it was representative of the vast majority of beers.

Same with saying NEIPA is a fruity cocktail. Some are fruity, some are not.

RDWHAHB.....on February 1st

 

[Mr. Vern]

It seems to me there must be a lot of kids out there who need to take off the training wheels and see what other styles there are.

Take a peek at "Craft beer enthusiasts" on facebook and you will see photos of pints with toys and stickers.. it is unnerving to feel this old at 46. I posted ONE photo in my underoos and was kicked out of the group!

When your beverage has an ECTO-COOLER or the Hawiian Punch guy on the label, you might be drinking a beery cocktail. Hazies are legit beer with an obnixious use of beer ingredients. If this is a disqualifier then we should also consider Mit Hefe a cocktail.

OT: Did you know that Fireball brand sells their shots in liquor and malt-beverage forms? The malt-beverage form is sold in beer/wine stores that do not carry liquor. I do not drink glycol so I always pass.

 

[Kent88]

 

[day_trippr]

^lol!^

Mmmmmm! Beers! Both of these were brewed using water, malted grains, hops and yeast. Indisputably, BEERS!

Cheers!

 

[Skeeter686]

I tend to agree that the more extreme examples are not “real beer”.

There are extreme examples of almost everything.

When bacon went viral some years back, I picked up a bottle of Bakon vodka (there was also a Hawaiian themed party coming up and there was a Hawaiian themed cocktail, which invoked this brand of vodka, that I had planned to make). I thought it was horrid (and I also quickly switched to a different cocktail recipe for the party!).

I gave the bottle to a coworker and he seemed to like it. I won't judge. I didn't like it, but maybe it just wasn't my thing.

I've enjoyed a few hazies, although it's not something I can drink much of. It's certainly not something I seek out or drink much of. But it is, technically, beer.

Whether it's "real beer" or not It's probably for history to decide. The history of beer has some significant shifts in styles and ingredients over the years / centuries.

 

[Kent88]

Whether it's "real beer" or not It's probably for history to decide. The history of beer has some significant shifts in styles and ingredients over the years / centuries.

As opposed to a proverbial beer?