Never a taking readings , been homebrewing since'95-96

[4of7]

Just saying, it's my way of brewing

 

[shelly_belly]

I've always measured OG an FG but the only thing I've done with them is record it and calculate the ABV. I ferment in carboys and don't package until I see the yeast flocculate. I get and support what 4of7 is saying but it does seem a little arrogant to post a thread.

 

[4of7]

Seems a seriously big deal to some.

I'm a musician, I know artists who swear you must use a metronome and yet they still produce terrible rhythms, and I know of others that have never used a metronome who have the best rhythm in the world. Some know the art, some don't. Do what works best for you... But you cannot judge the beer just by the tools he uses or doesn't use. I know woodworkers that produce beautiful furniture using old manual handheld tools... I know woodworkers who produce crap with the most expensive saws... Don't judge the end product by their methodology or the tools they use.

Personally, I'd love to try a pint of his beer.

I just have to say, I hope he isn't drinking all of that by himself!

it was turned by eye and feel,yes i did have to take some measurements.

 

[4of7]

Positive CO2 pressure. Either built up from being capped, or directly applied.

How much psi is applied

 

[4of7]

I'll

I've always measured OG an FG but the only thing I've done with them is record it and calculate the ABV. I ferment in carboys and don't package until I see the yeast flocculate. I get and support what 4of7 is saying but it does seem a little arrogant to post a thread.

Was not trying to be arrogant. I just Brew beer

 

[Jaybird]

Awesome.. Not sure WHY OP wouldn't take an OG but, to each their own.

If you don't want to know whats going on in your beer, how to improve it or just make changes that can be calculated then don't take an OG. It's your beer, your hobby and your brewery. Do what you like, I say.

No wrong way to brew IMHO.

Cheers
Jay

 

[Jaybird]

Curious though. Do you target an OG when you recipe design based off GU of basic malt GU ratings?

Cheers
Jay

 

[Qhrumphf]

How much psi is applied

If you're not going to bother reading responses I'm not going to answer questions.

 

[4of7]

If you're not going to bother reading responses I'm not going to answer questions.

Sorry about that. I have read your response, several times to get it.yes you bump up psi to 15 .What I should have asked was what kind of conical you are using , so i could see how you applied the psi. I understand the positive pressure . again thanks

 

[4of7]

If you're not going to bother reading responses I'm not going to answer questions.

Again thanks.My guess is you have aCF5 or 10..I had to go look up that ,I did not see that in the base models ,then saw the his spunding.

 

[4of7]

Awesome.. Not sure WHY OP wouldn't take an OG but, to each their own.

If you don't want to know whats going on in your beer, how to improve it or just make changes that can be calculated then don't take an OG. It's your beer, your hobby and your brewery. Do what you like, I say.

No wrong way to brew IMHO.

Cheers
Jay

Thanks ,I am not a " Beer Troll". I only had charlies p book as the guide.If you wrote up instructions ,say how to harveast yeast using your 4tc keg top, its only a guide.I should get the same results "maybe",.I know whats going on in my brew,if I use x amount of frementable I will get anywhere between x and x.I post here cuz this is homebrew talk,.like you said no wrong way to brew.

 

[4of7]

Curious though. Do you target an OG when you recipe design based off GU of basic malt GU ratings?

Cheers
Jay

this is the way I started.If I want a higher abv,I would bump up dme or lme.when I started I would only keep the weghts the same and change only one thing at a time..I was doing this till '16.I change up to brutus 20.thank you lonnie mac and had help from bobby. It is not HGB system,nothing wrong with theirs.I wanted a electric system and used the brutus 20 as a guide.I ended up with a 2v ebiab 15 gallon system and 50l kegmenter.I still brew the same way .As you say no wrong way to brew."Relax and Have a Homebrew","Stay strong and Brew on"...I do like your vids and your staff were helpful on the phone..

 

[Qhrumphf]

CF15 is among the ones I've used. Also used Blichmann and MoreBeer ones that are only rated to ~5 PSI instead of 15+ (ie not actually a unitank), in which case I burp off pressure daily after capping no matter what (and only put 3-4 PSI max). The 15 PSI (or not burping) is mainly to get as much CO2 as I can in there so that it's mostly carbonated before even reaching the keg. Only need 2-3 PSI when crashing/harvesting/dumping/transferring to keep it from pulling a vacuum and pulling in air (or worse collapsing a fermenter). Definitely not with an airlock or blowoff still attached. When possible I like to push from fermenter at about 15 PSI into already purged keg at about 12 PSI, but not always possible if the fermenter can't handle it.

My default setup is the old MoreBeer conical one- 4" to 1.5" reducer TC lid, TC tee, thermowell straight down through the tee, butterfly then blowoff on the side of the tee. When capping, just close butterfly. Then I'll burp off pressure through that butterfly, or add a TC to gas QD nipple to supply CO2.

Different brands have different configurations and tolerances so it's not always the same.

(Now, I also very seldom brew at home any more- most of my small scale stuff these days is a 1/2 bbl pilot with an abundance of TC parts at my disposal, but I use the same process for 5, 10, 15 gals that I do for 10, 20, 60 bbls).

 

[4of7]

To Ohrumphf, thank you for your insight,it seems to me that you are some pro brewer.I say that in a nice way. Just saying most homebrews are not doing 60bbls.I am not a "Beer Troll". I will not charge you to cross over the water(beer).The post was to only show my way .As a pro you have to make repeatable brews. I do not.I only like to keep the brewing process simple for me.Again thank you for your comments .Here is a question , how many base beers are there?I will answer that there is only 4.. I say that based only on the kinds of dme and lme.Please do not roast me."Stay Strong and brew on"

 

[Qhrumphf]

To Ohrumphf, thank you for your insight,it seems to me that you are some pro brewer.I say that in a nice way. Just saying most homebrews are not doing 60bbls.I am not a "Beer Troll". I will not charge you to cross over the water(beer).The post was to only show my way .As a pro you have to make repeatable brews. I do not.I only like to keep the brewing process simple for me.Again thank you for your comments .Here is a question , how many base beers are there?I will answer that there is only 4.. I say that based only on the kinds of dme and lme.Please do not roast me."Stay Strong and brew on"

There's nothing wrong with simple process and you can be as inconsistent as you like (although consistency to me at least is the mark of skill, what allowed me to leap from homebrew to pro, and readings are part of that) and if your process works for you then by all means continue as you are. I'd just be aware that your approach to this thread (especially at first) set off a bunch of "troll" alarms (and there have been plenty on this forum over the years, a few referenced in this thread). Although I'm convinced enough you're earnest at this point.

Cheers.

 

[4of7]

So let me understand this. Many thought I was a "troll",cuz I posted something out of the norm.It is funny to me cuz I read some great reads from brewers at all levels.I am not a "Beer Troll" will be used in my post thank you. Here is question for you who read this, can you read a plastic bucket during ferment phases.? Yes you can roast me now. Here is another question, how many base beers is there? I say 4.

 

[beernutz]

So let me understand this. Many thought I was a "troll",cuz I posted something out of the norm.It is funny to me cuz I read some great reads from brewers at all levels.I am not a "Beer Troll" will be used in my post thank you. Here is question for you who read this, can you read a plastic bucket during ferment phases.? Yes you can roast me now. Here is another question, how many base beers is there? I say 4.

Your original post, to me, was akin to someone stating "I drive all the time and have done so since 1995 and I make it a point to never look at a speed limit sign. However, I never get speeding tickets so I must be driving correctly."

The fallacy though is that just because you aren't getting tickets doesn't mean you are driving as good as you could be driving. For example you could be driving too slow and causing accidents you are not involved in.

Taking gravity readings, particularly initial ones, is such a small and easily performed part of the overall task of brewing that I'm sure to many homebrewers your intentional refusal to do so does seem arrogant and your proud proclamation of this on HBT trollish.

Just my $.01.

 

[4of7]

Your original post, to me, was akin to someone stating "I drive all the time and have done so since 1995 and I make it a point to never look at a speed limit sign. However, I never get speeding tickets so I must be driving correctly."

The fallacy though is that just because you aren't getting tickets doesn't mean you are driving as good as you could be driving. For example you could be driving too slow and causing accidents you are not involved in.

Taking gravity readings, particularly initial ones, is such a small and easily performed part of the overall task of brewing that I'm sure to many homebrewers your intentional refusal to do so does seem arrogant and your proud proclamation of this on HBT trollish.

Just my $.01.

I was troll, that is very funny to me,.Did I think I am being arrogant , no!.I posted the notes I taken.do those seem arrogant? Is it out of the norm?Oh yeah it is,I got funny looks and comments from homebrew stores..Do I drive funny? Oh yeah I do,I just put on snow tires that are on steelies on a prius?Is that out of the norm?All I was doing in this post was just that ,saying I am out of the norm? Many have roasted me for this,,am I hurt no ,it is normal to me,it just homebrew talk.I do not think it is personal,wow...look at the first brew day notes.I was told too take the readings but choose not too,How do i know if my beer is fully fermented.I can read the phases of fermentation in the glass carboys,.Other brewers ferment in plastic buckets.I could not see any phases,,then I would be taking readings,if I knew how. My brewday are 3.5-4hours.does that seem fast or slow.WhenI started my brew days were 3 hrs,but i was brewing and racking to kegs.

 

[Pkrd]

There are indeed devices for reading gravity inside fermenters in real time. There are probably a few posters hereabouts deriding your lack of data who have spent a pretty penny on such devices.

 

[4of7]

There are indeed devices for reading gravity inside fermenters in real time. There are probably a few posters hereabouts deriding your lack of data who have spent a pretty penny on such devices.

Lol

 

[ccous]

I think that knowing when fermentation is over and where fermentation ended are two very different things.

 

[ApolloSimcoe]

Read the bubbles,,watch for the clearing up , you are waiting for the brew to settle,,does not matter if its beer,wine or mead did it this way from 95-2016. I could not see it in the buckets or understand what stage it was in,,,can you see thru plastic.. I do pressure fermenation in the kegmenter , do I need to take a reading of th fg at three weeks in the keg ,,maybe for some here ,,,

Thanks for the response. These answers helped me understand your process better. You asked if i can see through plastic...Yes, i can. I use a few PETs but my sense is that you were referring to white plastic buckets maybe? Cheers!

Brew on!

 

[4of7]

Thanks for the response. These answers helped me understand your process better. You asked if i can see through plastic...Yes, i can. I use a few PETs but my sense is that you were referring to white plastic buckets maybe? Cheers!

Brew on!

Yes I was talking about the white plastic buckets.

 

[4of7]

I am not a "Beer Troll". Here's a question about gravity readings how did brewers do them in the year 1700?.My guess is with a raw egg .

 

[applescrap]

I "read" the white plastic buckets by shining a light down in them. They go from opaque to being able to see the trub layer. You can hear and feel the bubbles and last the nose gives quite an indication of fermentation stages.

 

[4of7]

I "read" the white plastic buckets by shining a light down in them. They go from opaque to being able to see the trub layer. You can hear and feel the bubbles and last the nose gives quite an indication of fermentation stages.

Yes you are reading the phases of the fermentation. Now all I have to do is get the readings and the roasting might stop.
I am not a "Beer Troll"

 

[StuckSpargeSarge]

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I’m sure somebody caught the SMaSH having two types of malt...

 

[4of7]

Yes you did , I didn't think I wrote that as , but ok.thanks now I will have to endure more roasting.Here is a question for you.What is the high and low abv from 21lb grains and 12 gallon boil ? As someone said here asking for a friend.my guess is @5.5-6.5. I am not a"Beer Troll""Stay strong and Brew on"

 

[4of7]

To applecrap.. I woke up three days later in the hospital, I was 8,took on a hill and lost control, hit a parked car,over that and kissed a blue Post office box. That's is one of them,K had some more . thanks so much for your support.So Yes I get a little jumbled.tmi

 

[Jayjay1976]

The post was to only show my way .As a pro you have to make repeatable brews. I do not.I only like to keep the brewing process simple for me.

You know what's simple? Floating an effing hydrometer in an effing sample of wort.