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Yeast is important but it's only one piece of the puzzle. I've used all the usual suspects and if used properly they can all make great beer. Been recently using the kviek hornindal and really like it.
I agree yeast is important, but I think to say you can't get a VERY close approximation/clone (close enough that you would be hard-pressed to tell a difference) of Zombie Dust or Julius or Heady without using their exact strains is a stretch if not a complete fantasy.

But, more importantly, I am no longer interested in cloning someone else's beer. Been there, done that. I am now interested in making my own inspired by my favorites, but all my own.
 
I agree yeast is important, but I think to say you can't get a VERY close approximation/clone (close enough that you would be hard-pressed to tell a difference) of Zombie Dust or Julius or Heady without using their exact strains is a stretch if not a complete fantasy.

But, more importantly, I am no longer interested in cloning someone else's beer. Been there, done that. I am now interested in making my own inspired by my favorites, but all my own.

I agree with this 1000%
 
Having read through the thread, I would agree with dropping the carapils and keeping the profile simple. Just because you have a simple grain bill does not mean you will have a bland neipa. This style is all about the hops and yeast, and if you're in the ballpark of a pound per 5 gallons, it probably doesn't matter too much what you add to the grain bill. The hops will overshadow the grist, for the most part. Unless of course you add something that conflicts with certain hops. In my opinion, I don't like honey malt with mosaic or galaxy hops, but it works great with Citra. A base of 2 row, wheat and oats is all you really need for a mosaic or galaxy neipa. And trust me, mine never lack flavor or complexity.

As for the Tree House comments - they were my first love. Julius, Green, Haze, Doppelganger, Alter Ego. All very good beers that at one point were all in my top 10. I shared a few with a college buddy of mine who home brewed. He said we could brew something like this (TH), and I didn't believe him. So, he got me into brewing and instead of bi-weekly trips to TH, I brew my own and visit TH maybe once every few months. In regards to their quality control, it's unfortunately very hit or miss now. They had missed the mark on Julius for a few months after opening in Charlton, but it seemed like everything was ironed out. But the last trip I made last week for JJJuliusss was a disappointment. It was the first time I ever got my hands on it and it was just blah. Regular Julius was a disappointment as well. I had 1 can that wasn't carbed and another that tasted overly ripe. Like almost rotten. Doppelganger was just ok. Haze was pretty good. Overall, I think they still produce great beer, but the hype train is still very alive. Until the end of Monson, I would argue against the TH haters, but lately, I honestly don't care to waste my breath. I'd rather brew my own :)
 
In have been noticing the same thing with TH. Been going since May of last year and never consistent. Their beer also has a lot of hop and yeast at the bottom of the cans and it’s rather bitter which ruins the smoothness if the beer.
 
In have been noticing the same thing with TH. Been going since May of last year and never consistent. Their beer also has a lot of hop and yeast at the bottom of the cans and it’s rather bitter which ruins the smoothness if the beer.
Hmm, I haven't had the bitterness issue, but there has always been a slight layer on the bottom of their cans, dating back to Monson. But I never get floaters like with Alchemist ie Heady Topper, Crusher and especially Focal Banger.
 
Depending on the beer, mostly with the IIPA, you will see it if you put the entire can. I try not to anymore. It’s not a huge deal but suggests to me that they are either rushing to get the beer in cans or not dropping everything out before packaging. It also may just be that they use a lot of hops and it’s just what happens with their system?
 
Depending on the beer, mostly with the IIPA, you will see it if you put the entire can. I try not to anymore. It’s not a huge deal but suggests to me that they are either rushing to get the beer in cans or not dropping everything out before packaging. It also may just be that they use a lot of hops and it’s just what happens with their system?
It's always a slurry layer, but it's been in every can I've gotten since day 1, over a few years ago. It's definitely not hop debris. I actually shake the can a little and put in every last drop lol. To each their own!
 
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