Need guidance on hops schedule

[Dotmo]

Hi all-

Quick question about the hops/ ingredients my parental units got me from the LHBS for my birthday.

6lb Briess Bavarian Wheat DME
1/2 lb Smoked Malt
1/2 lb brown malt
1lb Crystal 60L

2oz Spaltz
2oz Cascade

The only question I have is with the hops...anyone have a suggested dosing schedule? I was thinking (but I'm a brew noob, so who knows) of throwing in the spaltz at 60min, rationing 1.75 oz of the cascade throughout the boil, then hitting it with the rest of the cascade at flameout. Thoughts?

 

[bob1006]

2oz Spaltz 60 min
2oz Cascade 1Oz last 15 1Oz flameout

 

[jonmohno]

Sounds good,id ease up on the flavoring additions,it seems like a beer that you may not want a lot of hop flavor with?Possibly.That may be a bit much hops for this beer maybe,depending what you are going for here,what is this style exactly? I think i would cut out an oz of cascades.Probably most importantly,what yeast are you using?

 

[Dotmo]

Honestly, not really sure whats even possible with these ingredients. I do like hoppy beer, though.

I was planning on steeping for 30-35mins @ ~152ish and adding the DME at start of the boil for a deeper color/ flavor.

I am totally open to suggestions, as the guy at the LBHS didnt really give much info to my parents when they picked up this batch of ingredients.

I also have some whole-leaf cascade laying around. Any difference between use of pellet or dry other than the 2oz dry to 1oz pellet conversion?

 

[Dotmo]

most importantly,what yeast are you using?

Safale US-05

 

[oakbarn]

This will make a Rauchbier. It should be litely hopped. I would shoot for about 10 HBU. It will need to age a few months to be drinkable. We made some and had the bittering hops in for 30 minutes only and they were only 3.7 aau

 

[jonmohno]

Well if your going to go hoppy i would use smaller amounts of the smoked/brown malt.Adding a bit of both would give a good character,then you would want some cascades for bittering as well as flavor/aroma. spalts are mild and smooth so you could use those as you wish through out the boil. You have wheat too so that changes things a bit because most ipa/pales use reg barley malt,not to say you cant with wheat if you want. but if you plan on using all the grain then tone down the hops and you have something of a smokey wheat brown/amber/dunkleweizen? ale i think,but it sounds interesting. If you use all the malt just at least cut the hops in half. Other wise use a few oz of brown and however smokey you like a pale or ipa to be with a few oz being pretty mild and use all the hops and get some higher AAU' for bittering with Cascades but check you ibu's for your 60 min addition to get your bitterness you want.

 

[Dotmo]

Its half way through the boil right now. Since I didnt have any particular style in mind and am a huge fan of experimentation...

Used all the grain (it was already mixed at the time of purchase) and all DME at boil.

-1.25oz Spaltz, .25oz Cascade @ 60 min
-.5oz Spaltz, .5oz Cascade @30 min
-.25oz Spaltz, .75oz Cascade @ 5 min
- .25oz Cascade @ flameout

The guy at the LHBS said this was for one 5gal batch...we will see if I listen to him in the future...

As far as the hops schedule....I came up with that while drinking some of the last batch

 

[ludomonster]

I would have used an ounce of the Spaltz at 60 minutes and 1 ounce of cascade at 1 minute. This is a smoked version of American Wheat Beer. The steeping grains should make it darker, like a Dunkelweizen. However, since the yeast is US-05, the dark color and increased maltiness is all that the beer should take from the style.