Mr Robot Crashes The worlds Debt

[Ozarks Mountain Brewery]

Lets Ramble about this and what that really means, are we better off or not?
the Internet goes, banks go down, we are all dept free but all the things we take for granted are gone, even gas pumps...????

do we revert to paper and pencil, hand shakes and word of mouth for business...does that really work and can we survive... I say you bet we can!!!

 

[Hammy71]

A large proportion of the population would eventually starve. They offer no skills to barter for food, or grow their own, in a primitive society. Considering the large amount of people who don't work for a living, or do work while using technology.....I'd say the world population would be halved in less than 6 months. It's not like they are just going to waltz into the country and take food, most farmers and rural people are pretty well armed. Just my thoughts.

 

[Sammy86]

That was an awesome season finale BTW...yes we could survive it wouldn't be too difficult for people to go back to using cash...which people should be using too begin with...it would be nice to not have any college debt though

 

[gratus fermentatio]

Lets Ramble about this and what that really means, are we better off or not?
the Internet goes, banks go down, we are all dept free but all the things we take for granted are gone, even gas pumps...????

do we revert to paper and pencil, hand shakes and word of mouth for business...does that really work and can we survive... I say you bet we can!!!

So are we talking EMP (Electro-Magnetic Pulse) where everything with a transistor or computer chip gets fried & is now inoperable? Major cities would be in complete chaos/anarchy within 1 week, many places it would take only 3 days. It's tough to get water when you live on the 14th floor & 27 blocks from the river & there are 8 million others in the same situation.

Ever see what happens at grocery stores and/or home improvement stores right before a hurricane or a blizzard? The shelves are mostly bare & there's not going to be any resupply anytime soon. Imagine that, but with ALL stores, warehouses, medical facilities, grocery stores, hardware stores, sporting goods stores, gas stations, banks, liquor stores, etc...

Won't be long till the guns are drawn & people start shooting to protect what they have, or get what they want. There will likely be areas that are able to maintain a semblance of civil order, including trade; but for those in major cities, it would be a nightmare.

For me, I'd be out of a job. Without electricity & technology, I'd have to find some other way to eke out a living. Fortunately for me, I have other skills that would allow me to do so. It doesn't even need to be an EMP, a simple cyber attack on the electrical grid would be enough to get it started. Have a look at this, it'll give you an idea of what to expect:
[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYoXxVnTePA[/ame]

Regards, GF.

 

[Ozarks Mountain Brewery]

people on self sufficient farms where you grow and raise what you eat and learn all kinds of trades just by fixing farm equipment and putting up buildings and fences, these people would survive as long as they could protect the property from looters

 

[Natdavis777]

I dont see cash being a useful value as its based off a fiat system, and not backed by gold anymore. Either way, it would be Greece x 100...

Myself, Id be relying on my ordinance room, stocked with weapons, 1000s of rounds of ammo, and a few hundred feet of paracord. Im in a semi-rural area so game is easy to come by. Wood burning stove for heat. I could turn my kettles into stills to purify water.

My biggest concern is medication. I take no medication and refuse to take anything that requires a regiment. What if one day I lose access to it? Then Im vulnerable. My wife takes synthroid and a few other things, and she would be fuc*ed without them. I also believe in the Hygiene Hypothesis (with vacc) in that constant sanitation and hand washing is bad for you. It may be a fluke, but I am never sick.

Basically, people are going to have to learn to make fire, kill animals, clean and cook them, and survive. I can see 80% being dead within months. Everyone relies on technology. I do as well, but I keep myself in check.

Best scenario: Southern coast. Habitable climate all year round. Bountiful food from the ocean. Abundance of fresh water lakes.

 

[Ozarks Mountain Brewery]

+1 on that, I can live off the land no problem, I can make soap, hunt, cook and clean any game, I fish regularly you can always catch a bluegill or a sunfish if you're starving and grow your own food even wheat is easy just like the early 1800's back to the basics

it wasn't catastrophic but my city was hit by a ice storm years ago, the whole town lost power.. me for 12 days, grocery store shelve went bare, no batteries , no phone's, cell towers crashed, I had a gas water heater and a inverter hooked to my car to basic lights, it was 0 degrees out so food went out side and camping equipment was used for cooking, only thing that was hard was not having coffee I drink it like water

 

[kh54s10]

Are we talking something sudden? If so at least 50% of the population will either starve or be killed for what they have or don't have. Farmers will lose all they have to the hoards going after their crops. It would take a lot of time to revert to the days before technology.

Ozark, that is if you survive the less self sufficient that will be trying to take what you have.

 

[Ozarks Mountain Brewery]

yea i agree and hate to say it because I'm a lifer but you would have to kill or be killed in many situations and crazy thieving people would have to go, no place in this world for them

 

[Natdavis777]

+1 on that, I can live off the land no problem, I can make soap, hunt, cook and clean any game, I fish regularly you can always catch a bluegill or a sunfish if you're starving and grow your own food even wheat is easy just like the early 1800's back to the basics

it wasn't catastrophic but my city was hit by a ice storm years ago, the whole town lost power.. me for 12 days, grocery store shelve went bare, no batteries , no phone's, cell towers crashed, I had a gas water heater and a inverter hooked to my car to basic lights, it was 0 degrees out so food went out side and camping equipment was used for cooking, only thing that was hard was not having coffee I drink it like water

I cant make my own soap (though something Ive been meaning to look into)... Will I be able to borrow some of yours? Ill share supplies, scouts honor.

 

[Bulls Beers]

That American Blackout documentary is an eye opener, that's for sure. A number of years ago there was a water main break in a nearby town and a number of towns surrounding that town had to boil water for a few days. I get 10/5 gallon bottles a month, so I was good. But when I went to the supermarket to get some things, people in the water isle were freaking out. It was insane. All these people needed to do is drive one town over and buy all the water they wanted. There was also a two hour line to get a free case of water. I realized then, I needed to be a little prepared..If we really had a major catastophy, like an emp, Half the population would die off in a year. The elderly, sick would go first. I'd say you were crazy 10 years ago, that I would be stocking up on food and ammo, but by the way things are going now, you never know.

 

[hunter_le five]

Either way, it would be Greece x 100...

[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZcZ6eJoxeE[/ame]

 

[Natdavis777]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZcZ6eJoxeE

Durka durka.....Durka

 

[lucas75_75]

I'm a farmer in a very rural area. I know we would be ok for a while, until the starving city folk get here. I fear they would show up and kill the cows for a quick meal not thinking their calves will feed them every year.

 

[feinbera]

Vaccines, FEMA (yeah, they're incompetent... but when you're getting pulled off the roof of your three-story house with the floodwaters lapping at your heels, late's better than never), antiseptics/antibiotics/modern first aid, heat pumped into your home via gas/electric/fuel oil, heck, ambulances and firefighters (this one striking particularly close to my heart, as about a third of my state is currently on fire)... it's easy to romanticize times long past, but, when the rubber (er... wood, maybe sheathed with iron if you went to one of the fancy cartwrights) meets the road, the past wasn't so different from now, only, the opportunistic a**holes were less constrained by a weaker rule-of-law, and people died of preventable things a whole lot more often.

Edit: I will grant that, for better or for worse, if we were nuked back to revolutionary-era technology, I'd have to hope that a little bit of brewing know-how and the half-cup of San Diego Super yeast I've got in my fridge would see me through, because my city-dwelling butt will otherwise be toast.