Monumental f-up

[applescrap]

Your yeast should be fine. The yeast you pitched yesterday will expand when they get the fresh wort. Also I'm sure you could get 5 lbs DME to dissolve in 1 gallon of wort. Stir constantly over low heat at first so you don't score it. Chill in an ice bath and return it to the fermenter.

I was wondering about less volume to dissolve.

 

[brewbama]

Boil some extract and add it to the fermenter.

+1. (a LOT of DME).

 

[Kharnynb]

I would be very careful heating sealed cans due to safety issues creating internal pressure in the cans. This could make the first mistake look minor.

done it a few times with kits I wasn't certain about, as long as you are slow with the heating, the cans can easily take it.

We do something similar with canned goods that we store over winter and can ourselves, but using glass "weck" cans.

 

[sbsmann]

That's why I love this forum. I expected more mocking of me, but instead when I was about to dump it all out and say F-it, people starting offering quality suggestions. Because of you guys I kept this batch alive and breathing. I'll keep everyone updated with progress and here is what I did today....

1) Siphoned 2 gallons from primary (which had active yeast) into brew kettle.
2) Heat 2 gallons to 185. Removed heat & added 5 lbs of Amber dried malt extract slowly while stirring.
3) After that was dissolved I kept it at 165 for about 20 minutes.
4) Moved the brew kettle to the sink with ice and got the 2 gallons down to 70 degrees in 30 minutes.
5) Dumped 2 gallons back into primary glass carboy (shook it up a little..probably not enough)
6) Took primary down to Man-Cave, installed blow-off tube (just in case) & stored it in the dark at 68 degrees.

Thanks again to everyone including "Silver_Is_Money" who's option I am basically following!

 

[slym2none]

Good luck, @sbsmann ! I have faith, both in that this will turn out well, and that you'll let us know either way!

 

[wilserbrewer]

Amber DME is good stuff, I think you'll be pleased.

 

[Jtk78]

I'm glad you put the effort in to save the batch. Hope it comes out great.

 

[sbsmann]

Had to check up on the Franken-Brew first thing this morning before leaving for work and it looks like it's got a full-on, healthy fermentation going with krausen just starting to enter the blow-off tube. No idea how it'll taste or how strong (weak) it'll be, but in a weird way I'm really looking forward to see how it turns out!

 

[sbsmann]

Based on this crazy brew, any guestimates on what the gravity would be? Basically I had 5 gallons at 1.016. I took 2 gallons out and added 5lbs of DME before adding it back to the fermenter. I know 4lbs of DME in 1 gallon of water equates to about 1.045, but not sure how it equates to 2 gallons of wort that was already at 1.016? And then combining it all back to the 3 gallons at 1.016 really confuses me and my math skills. Any smart people out there would know how to calculate this type of thing?

 

[jschm19]

I have recently been trying to get a handle on gravity points so I might be way off, but I believe DME is 40 points per pound. I'm thinking you are around 1.056

 

[Silver_Is_Money]

I have recently been trying to get a handle on gravity points so I might be way off, but I believe DME is 40 points per pound. I'm thinking you are around 1.056

Probably closer to 44 points per pound.

 

[bbohanon]

I just LOL'ed reading this as I almost had this exact same situation happen when I was early in my all grain days..I was SO nervous about EVERYTHING I was doing then, I just about made this same mistake..luckily I only got about a cup of unmilled grain in before realizing my error.

Good luck with it and I bet it turns out fine with what you added in.
We all have those senior moments...

My biggest oh sh*t moment to date is not putting a blowoff tube on a winter ale that went bonkers in my hall closet when it decided to have a nuclear airlock blowout about 15 mins before we were supposed to leave for a Thanksgiving family gathering of all days. I was cleaning up hop debris and wort from the ceiling, clothes, floor and the walls for hours. I had to repaint and rip up the carpet in the whole walk in closet before it was able to be used again..that was a bad one and I was in the doghouse with the wife for weeks over it and is still drug up when we argue and its been over 4 years since that incident..lol

At least with this one, you only lost a batch of grain.

 

[MyCarHasAbs]

at least you weren't confusing All Grain with Extract methods and adding water post boil.

 

[ba-brewer]

Based on this crazy brew, any guestimates on what the gravity would be? Basically I had 5 gallons at 1.016. I took 2 gallons out and added 5lbs of DME before adding it back to the fermenter. I know 4lbs of DME in 1 gallon of water equates to about 1.045, but not sure how it equates to 2 gallons of wort that was already at 1.016? And then combining it all back to the 3 gallons at 1.016 really confuses me and my math skills. Any smart people out there would know how to calculate this type of thing?

5lb*40pts/lb=200pts
divide points by total gallons 200/5gal = 40pts
add that to 16 gets 1056

incase you ever want to mix two worts together

take the digits right of the decimal point multiply by 1000 for first wort
multiply that by gallons

do the same for second wort

add the two products together and divide by total gallons
divide by 1000 and add 1 to get gravity

2gal of 1.116 plus 3gal of 1.016
(2*116 + 3*16)/(2+3) = (232+48)/5 = 56
56/1000 +1 = 1.056

 

[cubalz]

On the "upside", you will have to deal with very little trub....

 

[sbsmann]

So I kegged my FrankenBeer on Tuesday and decided to leave it at 12psi for at least 5 days before trying. I sampled it before kegging and surprisingly, it tasted quite good. On that note I told myself I wasn't going to rush carbonate it and would give it ample time to slowly carbonate (the right way IMO). I'll keep everyone updated because I'm sure you can hardly wait to hear the news!

 

[sbsmann]

When all is said and done the beer turned out pretty drinkable as an Amber with fresh Cascade hops. It will never win an award, but I am happy you guys convinced me to salvage it. God forbid I say that I actually like this beer! Prost!

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[Silver_Is_Money]

It certainly looks like you have beer there. Congrats!!!

 

[Bombo80]

Well, I am glad to hear that I am not the only one who has had this truly , as the OP stated, MONUMENTAL F-UP.

I did the exact same thing, when I was doing three brews in one day. I actually caught mine during the mash, but was totally vapor-locked as to what to do to fix it. So I just mashed it for 120 minutes, and collected about 2 gallons of wort. I can't remember any specifics of OG or FG, all I remember was that the beer was very grainy in the flavor, and I didn't use near enough hops to give it any other levels of flavor.

The next day I actually thought what my fix would have been.........

Get out the stick blender and go to town on the mash.

But, I digress, that one is just chalked up to being a *******, trying to do three all grain mashes in one day.

 

[wilserbrewer]

The next day I actually thought what my fix would have been.........

Get out the stick blender and go to town on the mash.

Haha that would likely work pretty well.

That's actually a great idea, I could mash and crush in one operation instead of two.

 

[Silver_Is_Money]

Did you ever get around to taking a post DME addition gravity reading.

 

[applescrap]

So glad to hear awesome

 

[cmac62]

Well, I am glad to hear that I am not the only one who has had this truly , as the OP stated, MONUMENTAL F-UP.

I did the exact same thing, when I was doing three brews in one day. I actually caught mine during the mash, but was totally vapor-locked as to what to do to fix it. So I just mashed it for 120 minutes, and collected about 2 gallons of wort. I can't remember any specifics of OG or FG, all I remember was that the beer was very grainy in the flavor, and I didn't use near enough hops to give it any other levels of flavor.

The next day I actually thought what my fix would have been.........

Get out the stick blender and go to town on the mash.

But, I digress, that one is just chalked up to being a *******, trying to do three all grain mashes in one day.

I frequently do three beers in one day. I usually do a big beer (ie IRS or BW) a regular beer (in the 5% range), then I put all of the grain into the MT and run one long sparge. At the end I have two burners going and I get three beers for the price of two Also I have 15 gals in the pipeline.

 

[cmac62]

Funny, but the LHBS I usually go to the owner weighs and crushes the grain and gives it to me in a bag. I am ADD to the max, but this is one thing I haven't messed up. Yea!! But there is still time. Oh well

 

[sbsmann]

Did you ever get around to taking a post DME addition gravity reading.

Ironically I never did. I guestimated it at about 1.056 and just left it at that

 

[sbsmann]

Well, I am glad to hear that I am not the only one who has had this truly , as the OP stated, MONUMENTAL F-UP.

I did the exact same thing, when I was doing three brews in one day. I actually caught mine during the mash, but was totally vapor-locked as to what to do to fix it. So I just mashed it for 120 minutes, and collected about 2 gallons of wort. I can't remember any specifics of OG or FG, all I remember was that the beer was very grainy in the flavor, and I didn't use near enough hops to give it any other levels of flavor.

The next day I actually thought what my fix would have been.........

Get out the stick blender and go to town on the mash.

But, I digress, that one is just chalked up to being a *******, trying to do three all grain mashes in one day.

Brilliant idea. I got 1.016 I believe out of the uncrushed grain which was somewhat surprising. Nice to hear someone else has made this mistake, but you at least have a better excuse for messing up than I did!

 

[cmac62]

I have recently been trying to get a handle on gravity points so I might be way off, but I believe DME is 40 points per pound. I'm thinking you are around 1.056

I know nothing about points or using dme, but I think you're right on the money with your guestimemt.

 

[doug293cz]

5lb*40pts/lb=200pts
divide points by total gallons 200/5gal = 40pts
add that to 16 gets 1056

incase you ever want to mix two worts together

take the digits right of the decimal point multiply by 1000 for first wort
multiply that by gallons

do the same for second wort

add the two products together and divide by total gallons
divide by 1000 and add 1 to get gravity

2gal of 1.116 plus 3gal of 1.016
(2*116 + 3*16)/(2+3) = (232+48)/5 = 56
56/1000 +1 = 1.056

DME actually has about 44 pts/lb, so 5 lb will add 220 pts. The DME will also increase the total volume of wort. DME has an SG somewhere around 1.5, so 5 lb of DME will add 5 / (8.33 * 1.5) = 0.4 gal to the total volume. Thus you had 16 * 5 = 80 pts originally, you added 220 pts for 300 total pts, your volume went up to 5 + 0.4 = 5.4 gal, thus your final points/gal is 300 / 5.4 = 55.6. Because of compensating errors, the result matches the less rigorous estimate of 1.056 equivalent OG.

Brew on

 

[jdemars]

Op silently in his mind -

"Brewers are playing.
Brewers.
I'm a brewer.
I wonder if any of the Brewers are brewers.
Ha, ha. That's funny.
They'd be a Brewers brewer.
I'm just a brewer.
Not a real Brewer.
Well I'm a real ......OH ****.!!!!"

God I read this last year and laughed hard, then I stumbled across it again and laughed even harder. Great lines!

 

[day_trippr]

Replayed this great thread. The OP was a seriously good sport