mixing windsor and US-05; should I?

[gorobrew]

I'm brewing a grapefruit IPA-using a zest/vodka tincture at kegging, 6 gal (23L), expected SG is 1.064.

I know I should use 2 packs of rehydrated yeast, thing is I have 1 packet of US-05, 1 packet of S-04 and 1 packet of Windsor yeast.

I don't think I'll ever use the windsor yeast by itself, and was thinking it might be good with the 05 in a hoppy, grapefruit IPA - plus a good way to get rid of it without just tossing it in the trash.

Any thoughts? Maybe better to blend 05 with 04?

Any advice would be much appreciate!

Matt

 

[Jesse93]

Concidering how cheap dry yeast is, I wouldn't risk the other ingredients for making something such experimental. But if you must, use S-04 in the blend with any of the other two, as it has the best flocculation properties. I avoid Windsor because it stays in suspension for long, and therefore giving a yeasty taste.

 

[dmtaylor]

One pack is enough. I'd try the US-05 packet alone. Dry packs of yeast contain twice as many cells as you need anyway, or so says Pope Jamil. Review this ongoing thread from the AHA forum:

https://www.homebrewersassociation.org/forum/index.php?topic=27438.0

 

[Jesse93]

One pack is enough. I'd try the US-05 packet alone. Dry packs of yeast contain twice as many cells as you need anyway, or so says Pope Jamil. Review this ongoing thread from the AHA forum:

https://www.homebrewersassociation.org/forum/index.php?topic=27438.0

According to http://www.mrmalty.com/calc/calc.html you'll need 1.3 packets of 11,5g yeast packs (1 pack contain 200 billion yeast cells, 269 billion cells is needed). I don't know how much this matter, but it is slighty less than the recommended pitch rate.

 

[gorobrew]

Thanks for all the advice y'all, I've pitched 1 US-05 in a similar brew and it worked fine, I think I might just pitch one pack of 05 and call it a day, a brew day that is

 

[m1k3]

Concidering how cheap dry yeast is, I wouldn't risk the other ingredients for making something such experimental. But if you must, use S-04 in the blend with any of the other two, as it has the best flocculation properties. I avoid Windsor because it stays in suspension for long, and therefore giving a yeasty taste.

This yeast from White Labs is the same idea as mixing in the S-04:
https://www.morebeer.com/products/white-labs-worlds-yeast-blend.html

I cold crash now, so I can tolerate US-05... but before I started cold crashing my US-05 would not drop.

 

[Jesse93]

This yeast from White Labs is the same idea as mixing in the S-04:
https://www.morebeer.com/products/white-labs-worlds-yeast-blend.html

I cold crash now, so I can tolerate US-05... but before I started cold crashing my US-05 would not drop.

I have a hard time getting it out of suspension too. I will have to wait for the winter so I can cold crash the beer outside

 

[dmtaylor]

Haze is something that a little gelatin can fix in 48 hours. Personally all I do with gelatin is boil a half cup of water in a glass in the microwave (takes a couple minutes), then remove from the microwave, add a 1/2 teaspoon of unflavored gelatin (I use Knox brand) and stir with a clean spoon until dissolved. Cool slightly then add to your fermenter and swirl the fermenter slightly. A couple days later, your beer is clear as crystal.

 

[JKaranka]

If you pitch the Windsor, the S04 / US05 should help it to flocculate. To be fair, it has ok esters to it.