Mandarina Bavaria IPA/PA/Common ?

[SwissRico]

Just noticed that my LHBS stocks the Mandarina Bavaria hops, and after reading that they have a great Mandarin taste I'm wondering how best to use them.

#1 on my current list is a Citra/Mandarina American IPA
#2 would be a California Common (still not done one, but they always seem to be #2 on my list of next brews) probably Simcoe/Mandarina
#3 would be a simple Mandarina Pale Ale

Does anyone have any experience with this hop and its taste?

 

[SwissRico]

So here's my draft for the IPA (10l, Extract)

FERMENTABLES:
0.45 kg - Dry Malt Extract - Light (22.5%)
0.45 kg - Dry Malt Extract - Amber (22.5%)
0.5 kg - Dry Malt Extract - Light - (late addition) (25%)
0.5 kg - Dry Malt Extract - Amber - (late addition) (25%)

STEEPING GRAINS:
0.1 kg - German - CaraHell (5%)

HOPS:
15 g - Citra, Type: Pellet, AA: 12, Use: Boil for 60 min, IBU: 48.47
10 g - Citra, Type: Pellet, AA: 12, Use: Boil for 15 min, IBU: 16.04
5 g - Mandarina Bavaria, Type: Pellet, AA: 8.1, Use: Boil for 15 min, IBU: 5.41
10 g - Mandarina Bavaria, Type: Pellet, AA: 8.1, Use: Boil for 0 min
15 g - Mandarina Bavaria, Type: Pellet, AA: 8.1, Use: Dry Hop for 7 days

OTHER INGREDIENTS:
5 g - Irish Moss, Time: 5 min, Type: Fining, Use: Boil

YEAST:
Fermentis / Safale - American Ale Yeast US-05

STATS:
Original Gravity: 1.068
Final Gravity: 1.013
ABV (standard): 7.19%
IBU (tinseth): 69.92
SRM (morey): 8.21


Does this look alright to you guys?

 

[juan_bernado]

hey rico,

the malt bill looks fine to me.

a neutral yeast like 05 is good.

i would do it as a single hop beer. citra could be overpowering the mandarina bavaria.

focus on late additions and using stupid amounts is the way to go with mandarina bavaria.

cheers jan

 

[hanuswalrus]

I try to stay away from Citra as a bittering hop. I would use something like Warrior or Magnum for bittering and save the Citra for flavor/aroma.

As for Mandarina, it is kind of subtle. I used about 8 oz on a 3 gallon batch once and thought it was good, but not overly hoppy like I thought it would turn out. If I were to do it again, I would add a little Cascade, Centennial or maybe El Dorado. Mandarina does have a nice, unique orange-y flavor though

 

[SwissRico]

Thanks, I do have a couple of ounces of Galena and cascade in the freezer. Would the Galena be suitable for bittering, or do these risk dominating? I understand the Warrior and Magnum are a bit more subtle

 

[SwissRico]

focus on late additions and using stupid amounts is the way to go with mandarina bavaria.

cheers jan

Thanks jan, will do

 

[SwissRico]

***update new hop schedule***

Walrus...No Warrior so Magnum it is then...
Jan... Throwing in 30g for the dry hop...hope it will hit the nose like a tangerine...

10 g - Magnum, Type: Pellet, AA: 12.5, Use: Boil for 60 min, IBU: 33.66
10 g - Cascade, Type: Pellet, AA: 7.5, Use: Boil for 15 min, IBU: 10.02
5 g - Magnum, Type: Pellet, AA: 12.5, Use: Boil for 15 min, IBU: 8.35
10 g - Mandarina Bavaria, Type: Pellet, AA: 8.1, Use: Boil for 15 min, IBU: 10.82
5 g - Cascade, Type: Pellet, AA: 7.5, Use: Boil for 0 min
10 g - Mandarina Bavaria, Type: Pellet, AA: 8.1, Use: Boil for 0 min
30 g - Mandarina Bavaria, Type: Pellet, AA: 8.1, Use: Dry Hop for 7 days

New IBU comes in at 63.

 

[JKaranka]

Looks better!