Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370

[bob1852]

Apparently, this decompression has happened before on a commercial level as well. If the pinging is correct, this seems to make most sense. Made a turn to try to get back and didn't quite complete it before everyone passed out. Then cruising until the fuel ran out.

A major hole is how/why the flight data recorder and transponder were shut off at different times.

The apparent elevation change from cruising up to 45,000 feet and down to 5,000 feet is also a major hole in this scenario. Though, 45,000 may kill everyone who doesn't have a oxygen mask on. Can a pilot prevent oxygen masks from deploying?

 

[novahokie09]

It seems most likely that there were snakes on this plane.

Realistically, I'm shocked we haven't found it yet with our P3 and P8 searching the ocean 24/7.

I've read sources indicating the plane was flying ~5000 ft and using terrain to avoid radar detection. This sounds like a plot executed by an individual with an agenda and not a mechanical defect. Combine that with the flight simulator, political dissadent propaganda and the pilot's family moving the day before, it seems likely that it was an inside job.

 

[LovesIPA]

A major hole is how/why the flight data recorder and transponder were shut off at different times.

The apparent elevation change from cruising up to 45,000 feet and down to 5,000 feet is also a major hole in this scenario. Though, 45,000 may kill everyone who doesn't have a oxygen mask on. Can a pilot prevent oxygen masks from deploying?

I don't know whether a pilot can prevent the masks from deploying, but the cabin is pressurized and you wouldn't even notice if you were flying at 45000 feet instead of 35000.

I was pretty well convinced that the plane crashed into the ocean, but with every day that passes without any sign of wreckage, it seems more and more plausible that the plane landed somewhere. And I do not believe a single word that the Pakistani government tells us.

 

[Hello]

I suppose we can rest easy, Courtney Love found it.

 

[insanim8er]

I suppose we can rest easy, Courtney Love found it.

Publicity stunt

 

[PRE66_6TART]

A major hole is how/why the flight data recorder and transponder were shut off at different times.

Last I heard was some systems were turned off before the co-pilot's final communication with the ground and some were turned off afterwards. So they think whatever happened the pilot(s) did it deliberately. What isn't known is whether they did it on their own or under coercion.

 

[bob1852]

Courtney Love was wrong!

 

[LovesIPA]

Last I heard was some systems were turned off before the co-pilot's final communication with the ground and some were turned off afterwards. So they think whatever happened the pilot(s) did it deliberately. What isn't known is whether they did it on their own or under coercion.

You can't rule out that the pilots were dead and someone else switched off the transponder and ACARS.

Which means that no one has been able to rule anything out. And it will continue to be the case until the plane is found and the voice and data recorders are found.

 

[PRE66_6TART]

You can't rule out that the pilots were dead and someone else switched off the transponder and ACARS.



Which means that no one has been able to rule anything out. And it will continue to be the case until the plane is found and the voice and data recorders are found.

At least one of them was still alive and made a call as if nothing were wrong after one of the tracking systems had already been shut off. It's not a lot to go on but it does rule out some possible scenarios doesn't it? I think it means at least one pilot participated in at least the very beginning of whatever happened.

 

[KayaBrew]

Shortly before this happened, I started watching a documentary series on Netflix called "Air Disasters". It is very interesting and IMO, well done. Check it out if you're a bored nerd like me!

 

[LovesIPA]

At least one of them was still alive and made a call as if nothing were wrong after one of the tracking systems had already been shut off. It's not a lot to go on but it does rule out some possible scenarios doesn't it? I think it means at least one pilot participated in at least the very beginning of whatever happened.

I think you're mistaken. From http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/15/world...es-flight-370-chronology/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

1:07 AM - last ACARS communcation
1:19 AM - "All right, good night" communication from cockpit
1:21 AM - transponder shut off
1:37 AM - next scheduled ACARS update. This did not occur so someone switched that system off between 1:07 and 1:37. The exact time is not known.

 

[Roadie]

Appears search will wind down with plane still missing.


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[PRE66_6TART]

I think you're mistaken. From http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/15/world...es-flight-370-chronology/index.html?hpt=hp_t1



1:07 AM - last ACARS communcation

1:19 AM - "All right, good night" communication from cockpit

1:21 AM - transponder shut off

1:37 AM - next scheduled ACARS update. This did not occur so someone switched that system off between 1:07 and 1:37. The exact time is not known.

I'd seen it reported in a couple places this morning that it was shut off before the "alright, good night." I guess they were jumping to conclusions. Imagine that.

 

[bleme]

David Copperfield strikes again!

 

[FermentNEthinG]

I don't know why they haven't reported more about the pilots wife and 3 kids who suddenly move out of the home they were staying in a day before the plane went missing.

 

[fastengine]

Be prepared for a false flag event. There is goverment that knows where this plane is. Might even be ours!!

 

[craigger64]

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[SugarBear]

My guess is that it lost cabin pressure, drifted for a while with everyone asleep, and finally went into the water 500 miles south of India. If it crashed nose down, the debris field could be isolated to a small area, and mostly underwater.

 

[fastengine]

My guess is that it lost cabin pressure, drifted for a while with everyone asleep, and finally went into the water 500 miles south of India. If it crashed nose down, the debris field could be isolated to a small area, and mostly underwater.

What about the lack of contact with the transponder?? No locater beacon just seems to fishy.

 

[LovesIPA]

My guess is that it lost cabin pressure, drifted for a while with everyone asleep, and finally went into the water 500 miles south of India. If it crashed nose down, the debris field could be isolated to a small area, and mostly underwater.

Who turned off the transponder and ACARS system? Who changed the plane's heading and altitude?

All evidence points to someone knowledgeable about flying a 777 at the controls for at least several hours after the transponder was shut off.

In my mind, the two passengers with stolen passports were written off FAR too quickly. A plane disappears, there are two people on board with stolen passports, both are from Iran, both are young men, and people think this is a coincidence? I'll bet anyone $100 that, when this is all unraveled, those two men will be implicated.

 

[Dan]

The airplane is not lost. Its being hidden. Plain and simple. I believe a reason why will come out eventually. Spectulation on how it was lost is useless and only a distraction a magician uses in a magic trick

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[user 4295]

This is interesting.

http://keithledgerwood.tumblr.com/p...ysian-airlines-370-disappear-using-sia68-sq68


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[Picbuddy]

As much as I would like to believe that those 239 people are still alive, as each day goes by with no contact from them, the huge amount of food they would have to have been fed, my heart says they are gone. If I were a time lord like The Doctor, I'd give up a regeneration to bring them all back alive because the pain of loss and confusion has to be unbearable for the surviving families. Heck, my wife flew the same plane from the same airport just 6 years ago. Fortunately she's still with me to help clean up my messes and drink the beer with me.

And then the question as to why? Why would such an apparently complex diversion fail? There's no proof it did.

I've said since day 1 that the windshield blew out due to a known electrical overheating issue that has existed since the 767. Might have sucked one of the pilots out and the remaining talented pilot tried to return home, and became lost. And it's in the ocean. -60F can make it really hard to stay awake, and I think we will end up finding out that there is a hero of a pilot that tried to return his passengers to safety, but became a lost ship at sea.

It's easy to always (post 911) to think the most evil must have happened. I'm going with mechanical failure of the windshield, plain and simple. (Disclaimer - I have friends that are commercial pilots and not one of them has discounted my gut feeling)

Electrical fire. In particular, the windshield, which failed and blew out.

Cheers.

 

[bob1852]

If it wasn't for the course change and transponder disconnect, explosive decompression would be more plausible.

The whole thing is so weird.

 

[Hophanatik86]

My question is where would this plane have landed with out not one eyewitness to leak its position. It not like this is a small bush plane that can land on backwoods unpaved landing strip. This is a Boeing 777 a huge ass plane that would require a huge landing strip and a large infrastructure to maintain and refuel the plane if it was to takeoff and used in a terrorist plot.

If this is the case couldn't it narrow it down to a small number of possible places to land? Not to mention you can't just hide. 777 you have to have tremendously huge hanger to store the likes of which could really
Only be found in military or international airports.


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[Picbuddy]

Explosive decompression is correct sir. The windshield blew out and Boeing doesn't want to admit that it has been documented over 400 times. Anyone remember the British Airlines pilot that was sucked out and only survived the landing with crew holding him onto the front of the plane at landing?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Airways_Flight_5390

I have always felt that what we will find is a sad, large loss of human life. It wasn't terrorism and sadly it wasn't hi-jacking. Time is proving that the people are no longer with us. Forget radar, the people are #1, key and apparently gone.

I still say that there was a mechanical failure, the windshield blew out due to a very common and not required fix, Malyasia Airlines didn't fix it, the front windshield overheated in an electrical fire and blew out and the extremely talented pilot remaining tried everything he could to return.

I believe the aircraft came to rest on the Indian Ocean and then sank with no debris. And I feel that humans in charge did the best they could and there was never any evil intent.

If it wasn't for the course change and transponder disconnect, explosive decompression would be more plausible.

The whole thing is so weird.

 

[devoidelk]

My two cents. The world is a big and scary place that a lot of us Americans take for granted that our government can protect us when it is us that protect each other in times of need. This is a major tragedy that will most likely unfold but not for the better. A plane of that size would be hard to land and hide without being noticed but fear of death can keep mouths shut quite easily. I hope it did not come to terrorism with the plane and it was just catastrophic electrical/mechanical failure but........

Good luck to the governments trying to find the plane and godspeed to the passengers to be returned to their families.

 

[CB_in_Tokyo]

Who turned off the transponder and ACARS system? Who changed the plane's heading and altitude?

All evidence points to someone knowledgeable about flying a 777 at the controls for at least several hours after the transponder was shut off.

In my mind, the two passengers with stolen passports were written off FAR too quickly. A plane disappears, there are two people on board with stolen passports, both are from Iran, both are young men, and people think this is a coincidence? I'll bet anyone $100 that, when this is all unraveled, those two men will be implicated.

No evidence points to someone knowledgeable at the console (other than the pilots of the flight) after the transponder was shut off.

I gladly take you up on the bet. You are on. $100 bucks to you if the two men are shown to have been involved in causing this. $100 bucks to me they are not. If nothing gets resolved in a year the bet's off.

(Shaking on it)

 

[gratus fermentatio]

This is interesting.

http://keithledgerwood.tumblr.com/p...ysian-airlines-370-disappear-using-sia68-sq68


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Now that's a good theory.
Regards, GF.

 

[thatjonguy]

Now that's a good theory.
Regards, GF.

Damn.