Let's Remember Some Beers (In Memoriam: Old Whales)

[lb304854]

Checked the reviews on BA: the original batch from 2010 (gold wax) was infected. Everyone still gave solid ratings, though??

The infection wasn't immediately present according to people I trust. Took some time to become visible.

 

[stupac2]

Wasn't B1 infected??

I've never had a bad CFH, but I haven't all of them. Previously (ok this name-changing ******** has gone on too long) could probably tell you.



On insta-whales, I don't think KH was really one. For one thing, if you're going to count that, then it should be Rare. But second, I don't think an insta-whale really comes from a pedigreed brewery.

 

[yeahnatenelson]

On insta-whales, I don't think KH was really one. For one thing, if you're going to count that, then it should be Rare. But second, I don't think an insta-whale really comes from a pedigreed brewery.

I agree. It's worth remembering that King Henry came out in 2011 and Rare came out the year before all the while liquor stores had 2009 BCBS cases stacked on top of 2008 BCBS cases. Both Rare and KH were, at best, sleepers. At their peaks they never touched the madness of '09 BT or PiaPT.

 

[jmgrub]

So I obviously hate BA and never go on there, but for purposes of this thread, it would be really helpful to have access to my pre-purge messages.

 

[JulianB1]

While batch 1 Black Tuesday completely changed the game, I remember North Carolina ruining the trade boards with their ******** hype waelz around the same time. Old Rabbit's Foot, BA Sexual Chocolate, B1 Lindley Park, ******* Event Horizon; all seemed to come out in the same 9 months. ISO;FT was full of "FT: ORF" with asinine asks. Then @nickd did his little statistical study that showed NC and Florida were the worst offenders when it came to overrating their home beers when compared to out of market reviews. I was overjoyed when one of them (I forget which one, ORF?) ended up infected.

If only we knew that would become the norm nationwide.

Some (I'm not sure if all) batches of ORF ended up being infected, and this was all due to Duck Rabbit and their notoriously bad QC procedures. It led to the beer being discontinued until being brought back in the past year. Now is just another good BA stout.

I've always found it interesting perusing these old "white whale" BIFs at how many beers from NC (and to a lesser extent SC, although that was mostly the infamous Blackbeerd) showed up in boxes. By the time I was involved most of them had lost whatever cachet they had and were reduced to the appropriate "limited locals" status.

 

[FTowne1]

So I obviously hate BA and never go on there, but for purposes of this thread, it would be really helpful to have access to my pre-purge messages.

RIP
Brady MarkIntihar
Rempo

 

[Fahmie25]

Does anyone have screenshots of the whole mikesgroove debacle? I think the main BA thread was purged

 

[yeahnatenelson]

Some (I'm not sure if all) batches of ORF ended up being infected, and this was all due to Duck Rabbit and their notoriously bad QC procedures. It led to the beer being discontinued until being brought back in the past year. Now is just another good BA stout.

I've always found it interesting perusing these old "white whale" BIFs at how many beers from NC (and to a lesser extent SC, although that was mostly the infamous Blackbeerd) showed up in boxes. By the time I was involved most of them had lost whatever cachet they had and were reduced to the appropriate "limited locals" status.

A victim of the **** heels that came before you...

Go **** Heels!

 

[steimie]

The Good:
Dark Horse BA Monster 29.

The Bad:
Dark Horse Lambeek Wants <insert your fruit here>

BA Monster was such a big beer. And the Lambeeks were so, so bad.

What were those other hugely infected DH beers they sold at 4 Elf parties in the past? Aigre Pt5?

 

[stupac2]

Does anyone have screenshots of the whole mikesgroove debacle? I think the main BA thread was purged

No, but I did a trade with him (can't remember what I sent, but got a Mamouche) and was oddly excited to be trading with a BEER SCENE LEGEND that I sent great extras and was expecting something epic in return and... nope, sent crap. Oh well, still got Mamouche!

He's the one who organized some kind of charity BIF after a guy got in a car accident then sold all the bottles, right? And the poor guy had to post from the hospital about how he didn't see any of it? Sure makes the **** we see around here seem tame.

 

[lb304854]

Minneapolis Town Hall Czar Jack counter pressure filled 64 oz growlers were soooooo good. tewaris was my hookup on those gems.

 

[yeahnatenelson]

The Good:
Dark Horse BA Monster 29.

The Bad:
Dark Horse Lambeek Wants <insert your fruit here>

BA Monster was such a big beer. And the Lambeeks were so, so bad.

What were those other hugely infected DH beers they sold at 4 Elf parties in the past? Aigre Pt5?

The sour Six Guys Off The Scale. I also remember a BA maple porter they ****** up every time that I can't think of the name of but trickytunadicky liked it because it tasted like those caramel apple suckers we had as kids.

EDIT: it was King of the Forest!

 

[steimie]

The sour Six Guys Off The Scale. I also remember a BA maple porter they ****** up every time that I can't think of the name of but trickytunadicky liked it because it tasted like those caramel apple suckers we had as kids.

They also randalled some beer on bacon. God, it was terrible.

 

[yeahnatenelson]

What were those other hugely infected DH beers they sold at 4 Elf parties in the past? Aigre Pt5?

...BBA Long Polymer John Donut Beer was never not-infected, either -- or were those the polymers?? Same with BBA Three Pairs of Legs.

Also: let us not forget Whiskey Richard or Lambdick Framboozin.

 

[JulianB1]

The Good:
Dark Horse BA Monster 29.

The Bad:
Dark Horse Lambeek Wants <insert your fruit here>

BA Monster was such a big beer. And the Lambeeks were so, so bad.

What were those other hugely infected DH beers they sold at 4 Elf parties in the past? Aigre Pt5?

At one point I went halfers with a buddy on a box of bad beers on MBC, got it for $120 shipped for a case and felt like we got a steal given how many legendary bad beers were in there. Lambeak wants Blood Orange and Lambeak Wants Dragonfruit, Whiskey Richard, Aigre Pt5, FFF Bully Guppy, Viking something or other, and a few others. Made for a spectacularly awful and memorable tasting a few years ago. Bruery Roble Blanco was the worst of the bunch, spectacularly bad.

 

[yeahnatenelson]

At one point I went halfers with a buddy on a box of bad beers on MBC, got it for $120 shipped for a case and felt like we got a steal given how many legendary bad beers were in there. Lambeak wants Blood Orange and Lambeak Wants Dragonfruit, Whiskey Richard, Aigre Pt5, FFF Bully Guppy, Viking something or other, and a few others. Made for a spectacularly awful and memorable tasting a few years ago. Bruery Roble Blanco was the worst of the bunch, spectacularly bad.

I applaud you, and I sincerely hope more people find it in their heart to post epic duds by the case for shipping + pity money. MUCH more constructive than rage-pouring down the drain.

 

[yeahnatenelson]

To answer JulianB's question about first "Instawhale" I'll suggest it was '08 PVW Eclipse (Woah!! OP CALL BACK!!1)

I'll also throw into the ring 2011 Framboos. That was all the way built up as soon as some neckbeard overheard Armand say he had a batch in barrel. Maybe not the first, but definitely the most instantaneous of whales.

 

[amk1]

You mean the "Oh my god the release was awful. It rained for an hour and was 60 degrees!!!!!!!" ?

Previously had the bartender at Churchill's set aside a bottle to share with MarkIntihar and I when we went out there back in 2013. It was exceptional.

To be fair, it was in San Diego and we're not used to the elements. I'll always remember how angry_lobster shamed some would be line cutters into going away. He also traded his bottle for The Lily b1 (which was delicious), so he definitely won the night/day.

 

[Stubs]

Question for the really old-school ballers: what do you reckon was the first "instawhale", if such a thing can be identified?

I'm not an old school baller, but I think Colorado's first instawhale was WWBV. The others sat on shelves for weeks at a time. I remember them actually having a releaae party for that beer for the first time. I went like as it started cause I didn't know it had blown up like that and saw a line that was wrapped around the block and just left.

 

[stupac2]

To answer JulianB's question about first "Instawhale" I'll suggest it was '08 PVW Eclipse (Woah!! OP CALL BACK!!1)

I'll also throw into the ring 2011 Framboos. That was all the way built up as soon as some neckbeard overheard Armand say he had a batch in barrel. Maybe not the first, but definitely the most instantaneous of whales.

I'm thinking about this more and I think the answer has to be Morning Delight/KBBS (whichever was first). No brewery that I'm aware of before that went from nothing to "bottles selling for a grand" that quickly. Anything else I can come up with was from a brewery that you knew could do good stuff or the hype took a while to build. But I only started paying attention mid-2011 so I could've missed something before that (thought PVW Eclipse has the PVW name and Eclipse had been around a few years, so I feel like that's not the same).

 

[thebandit1]

I'm not an old school baller, but I think Colorado's first instawhale was WWBV. The others sat on shelves for weeks at a time. I remember them actually having a releaae party for that beer for the first time. I went like as it started cause I didn't know it had blown up like that and saw a line that was wrapped around the block and just left.

Bligh's was my first Colorado instawhale.

My CS trustee from way back got me some when everyone was looking for it. Felt so cool.

Beer is still fantastic too.

 

[Fingolfin]

(whichever was first)

Same time
Moondog

 

[FTowne1]

Same time
Moondog

You’re a same time, moondog.

 

[Stubs]

I'm thinking about this more and I think the answer has to be Morning Delight/KBBS (whichever was first). No brewery that I'm aware of before that went from nothing to "bottles selling for a grand" that quickly. Anything else I can come up with was from a brewery that you knew could do good stuff or the hype took a while to build. But I only started paying attention mid-2011 so I could've missed something before that (thought PVW Eclipse has the PVW name and Eclipse had been around a few years, so I feel like that's not the same).

I think he's looking for what the first beer was that people waited in line and pretraded for upon initial release.

 

[Stubs]

Bligh's was my first Colorado instawhale.

My CS trustee from way back got me some when everyone was looking for it. Felt so cool.

Beer is still fantastic too.

You could buy b1 off the shelf for months. It was ******* delicous too.

 

[Gonzoillini1]

The Good:
Dark Horse BA Monster 29.

The Bad:
Dark Horse Lambeek Wants <insert your fruit here>

BA Monster was such a big beer. And the Lambeeks were so, so bad.

What were those other hugely infected DH beers they sold at 4 Elf parties in the past? Aigre Pt5?

The years blur at this point, but I remember waiting in line with yeahnatenelson lurchingbeast pasta trickytunadicky fear025 and other getting samples of everything we could buy at the year Lambeek Wants were released.

That saved our group at least a grand of awful bottles if not more. We bitched about how slow the line moved, but in retrospect it was the best thing ever as I would still have those bottles today if it moved faster.

 

[GetchaPull]

I agree. It's worth remembering that King Henry came out in 2011 and Rare came out the year before all the while liquor stores had 2009 BCBS cases stacked on top of 2008 BCBS cases. Both Rare and KH were, at best, sleepers. At their peaks they never touched the madness of '09 BT or PiaPT.

First unbeknownst-to-me whale was the 2009 BCBS bomber. Slung some fresh Hooby Tippler tins to somebody (jdhende ?) for some Chicagoland tasties and the 09 might have even been an extra in that trade, can't remember. No surprise to anybody here, but wow. Better than OG Rare, IMO.

 

[thegerm87]

The Good:
Dark Horse BA Monster 29.

The Bad:
Dark Horse Lambeek Wants <insert your fruit here>

BA Monster was such a big beer. And the Lambeeks were so, so bad.

What were those other hugely infected DH beers they sold at 4 Elf parties in the past? Aigre Pt5?

I went on a buying binge of monster 29 and BA monster 29 a while back. Still have a small handful of each left - last opened one about a year ago and it’s still excellent.

 

[thegerm87]

At one point I went halfers with a buddy on a box of bad beers on MBC, got it for $120 shipped for a case and felt like we got a steal given how many legendary bad beers were in there. Lambeak wants Blood Orange and Lambeak Wants Dragonfruit, Whiskey Richard, Aigre Pt5, FFF Bully Guppy, Viking something or other, and a few others. Made for a spectacularly awful and memorable tasting a few years ago. Bruery Roble Blanco was the worst of the bunch, spectacularly bad.

That was me actually - I’d put this box together with all intents of drinking (or trying to drink) the bottles with a bunch of friends but I ended up moving and couldn’t justify holding onto it anymore. I’m glad it went to a good place!

 

[jbuddle]

18 pages and still no Joel66

******* miss that guy.