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My biggest gripe is tailgaters. Where I live it seems like about 90% of drivers do it. I'm driving 5 over and they're on my ass, I slow down when there's no oncoming traffic and they won't pass. I finally pull over and they stop too, because they're dumb-asses and don't know what's going on.

Then they go on to tailgate the next car.
 
I'm on a personal vengeance after going to lunch today during work. I wanted a nice meal so I decided to drive instead of walk to a farther place.

It appears there was some sort of event going on in our downtown area because traffic was 20x worse than it is on any other day.

It's the people that clog the intersection during green lights when traffic is backed up that got to me today. They sit there, in the middle of the intersection, and the light goes yellow, then red. They are still there. No cross traffic can move at all during the light change.

My solution so far is to pull right up to the side of their car if they are blocking me and lay on my horn. They act all dumbfounded because they can't move.

Hey, you intersect clogging, traffic congesting, arsehole, you could've waited back at the normal part you stop at during a red light even though it was green. It's the common sense thing to do (oh wait, we are talking about the public here)...
 
Ooo, I've got another one, let me see if I can describe this.

4-way intersection, I'm on the South edge facing North, waiting to turn left (West), behind another car. The East/West road is 2 lanes in each direction. We have a green light. There are cars on the opposite (North) side of the intersection from us, turning right to go West on the East/West road.

By law, those cars must turn into the closest lane. That means the other lane is open, and the guy in front of me can safely complete his left turn into the near lane (which he is also legally required to do). Yet he'll sit there and wait until there are no more cars on the opposite side of the intersection turning right before he'll go. Drives me nuts.
 
Ooo, I've got another one, let me see if I can describe this.

4-way intersection, I'm on the South edge facing North, waiting to turn left (West), behind another car. The East/West road is 2 lanes in each direction. We have a green light. There are cars on the opposite (North) side of the intersection from us, turning right to go West on the East/West road.

By law, those cars must turn into the closest lane. That means the other lane is open, and the guy in front of me can safely complete his left turn into the near lane (which he is also legally required to do). Yet he'll sit there and wait until there are no more cars on the opposite side of the intersection turning right before he'll go. Drives me nuts.


Or the person driving in the left lane turns and tries to merge into the right lane while turning, nearly running right into me as I'm turning right into my right lane from the opposite direction....
 
Ooo, I've got another one, let me see if I can describe this.

4-way intersection, I'm on the South edge facing North, waiting to turn left (West), behind another car. The East/West road is 2 lanes in each direction. We have a green light. There are cars on the opposite (North) side of the intersection from us, turning right to go West on the East/West road.

By law, those cars must turn into the closest lane. That means the other lane is open, and the guy in front of me can safely complete his left turn into the near lane (which he is also legally required to do). Yet he'll sit there and wait until there are no more cars on the opposite side of the intersection turning right before he'll go. Drives me nuts.

Or the person driving in the left lane turns and tries to merge into the right lane while turning, nearly running right into me as I'm turning right into my right lane from the opposite direction....

Had that happen the other day. I was turning right (into the right lane mind you) and this lady was taking a left. She sees me turning with signal on, takes her left and is pulling into the rightmost lane right into me. If I werent paying attention it would have been expensive for her. and probably painful for me.
 
I was driving to the DC Grain GB at 3 stars brewery and on the way i was on route 1. There was construction and they were forcing cars to merge into 1 lane. the left and middle lane were coned off and all had to go on the right lane to pass. You can also park on the right lane.... so as im merging i see this lady park her car in the right lane right where everyone was merging. left a small gap so 1 car could get through at a time but basically was right where all the cars were funneling. i couldnt freakin believe it. everyone getting on their horn and she gets out of her car and yells at them "I'M PARKING HERE!" and walks away. i was so happy that i was able to get by her right before she didnt that.
 
One thing that is incredibly irritating here is big city drivers who insist on tailgating on wide open highway with literally miles of space. There is room for miles of space between cars here, yet people will get behind you and try to "push" you........Ironically when they do pass, I usually find myself right behind them at the stop sign in town. They'll often risk their lives passing in a blind spot to gain a fraction of a second. When there is traffic.... say half a dozen cars, they will tailgate, and when I leave a few hundred yards ahead of me, finally pass because it apparently irritates them to have driving room...... Again at the stop sign at the junction, they will be right ahead of me......... I'd far rather have them a few hundred yards ahead of me than on my ass!

The 20 miles to town takes 17 minutes at 70 mph ( Montana's speed limit on two lane highways) It takes 16 minutes at 75, and 15 minutes at 80. That difference of one or two minutes amounts to nothing, especially if you end up behind a string of cars anyway..... What's the rush? Is your life worth two minutes? Hills, narrow road and bridges, livestock, deer, farmers, etc.............. 70 is more than fast enough.

It's not just big city people. I live in rural WV and get that one my commute all the time. I often watch where they are in such a hurry to get to. More often than not it's fast food, beer, or smokes. Like McD's is going to run out of breakfast burritos or Walmart is going to stop selling beer & smokes. Cracker, please.

There are several that get me, many already mentioned, but there is on that gets me not mentioned yet. I'm coming up on an onramp and I can see a line of cars about to merge, so I move over to the left lane as a courtesy. Inevitably one of two things happen. One car just can't stand how slow people are merging, so while still only going about 25mph, jumps immediately into the my lane causing me to jump on my brakes OR they immediately get behind me and start riding my a** while I'm trying to pass the other merging cars.

Most day's I just set my cruise, crank up the radio, and try to zone out, but I never use my turn signals. If I did people might actually know what I intend to do.
 
SWMBO's pet peeve is "people who don't low how big their car is." A while back, we went to a shopping center in a hoity-toity part if the suburbs because there's a jewelry shop that could repair something for her. While she did that, I walked to the grocery store to what? Get some good beer. Anyway, she finishes her thing and drives over to the grocery store to wait for me.

She was fully within the lines of a parking spot and along comes some dummy in a big BMW SUV who tries to park next to her. There's PLENTY of room FOR THE BMW to get in, but the dummy doesn't know how big her car is, she starts flipping out and gesticulating to SWMBO to move. Meanwhile SWMBO just laughs at her because she can see that there is several FEET of clearance between the two vehicles.
 
SWMBO's pet peeve is "people who don't low how big their car is." A while back, we went to a shopping center in a hoity-toity part if the suburbs because there's a jewelry shop that could repair something for her. While she did that, I walked to the grocery store to what? Get some good beer. Anyway, she finishes her thing and drives over to the grocery store to wait for me.

She was fully within the lines of a parking spot and along comes some dummy in a big BMW SUV who tries to park next to her. There's PLENTY of room FOR THE BMW to get in, but the dummy doesn't know how big her car is, she starts flipping out and gesticulating to SWMBO to move. Meanwhile SWMBO just laughs at her because she can see that there is several FEET of clearance between the two vehicles.

yes! this bugs me to no end.

either it takes them 47 tries to maneuver into a parking space, or they can't see they have plenty of room to go around or pass another vehicle.
 
Along with the people who don't know how big their car is are the people who won't put the phone down to make that 47 point maneuver into the parking space. Put the phone down, Special Lady, park your Canyonaro, call Maude back to discuss Downtown Abbey.

Sing with me!

Can you name the truck with four wheel drive,
smells like a steak and seats thirty-five..

Canyonero! Canyonero!

Well, it goes real slow with the hammer down,
It's the country-fried truck endorsed by a clown!
 
Unfortunately in Billings and Bozeman.........The two cities where I occasionally drive, a turn signal is taken as a signal to move forward and block you from changing lanes...... I never have understood this, but now signal a lane change milliseconds before actually making it, so the guy behind will not try to cut me off. I believe in signals, and have always used them religiously, but I can understand why people don't.

Interestingly, on the very few trips I've taken into Southern California, I found that people there respected turn signals on the interstate.......... A signal is not "asking permission" to change lanes, it's a statement that you ARE going to change lanes, and people make space........ That and people making space automatically when you hit the bottom of an on ramp at highway speed were the ONLY two driving behaviors I found down there that I liked.

I drive lightly traveled two lane highways mostly....that's what we have here. The big problems are idiots who pass when you are slowing down signaling a left turn. People get killed doing that all the time. We've had two fatalities within a mile of where I live as a result of this........ asleep at the wheel??..... I've had a number of close calls at the marked highway intersection near where I live...........To the extent of putting amber signals on the headache rack of my pickup to get people's attention. The other problem is passing on blind hills and corners....... I no longer tolerate people passing me where there is no visibility, especially trucks and towing vehicles........... You try to pass me where you cannot possibly see oncoming traffic, and I'll move over the center line and block you. It's a matter of survival! Three vehicles meet on a narrow two lane, and someone is likely to wreck. I've been forced off the road by the passing vehicle when he meets an oncoming vehicle........... in those several cases, my vehicle was unharmed, but both other vehicles were GONE. If damage or injury were to result, it would be a single vehicle accident as far as the highway patrol was concerned.

One case that really got me thinking was a wreck where 5 people were killed, that happened about 80 miles from here on a two lane highway. 3 drunken kids coming home from Northwest College in Powell, Wy. passed a truck on the two lane and met an oncoming car. Both the drunken kids and the oncoming car went for the ditch to avoid a head on............ and they hit head on in the ditch. A man and is wife, and three drunken kids died that day........
When you are both alongside a truck, traveling toward each other in opposite directions, it's a game of chicken.........If you both chicken out, you are going to die, and if neither chickens out you are going to die...... What do you do? What you do in that situation is take the LEFT ditch as you approach the truck. The kids are alongside the truck and have only one way to go.......... You have three options before you actually are alongside the truck....... left, right, and straight. The truck is NOT going to take the ditch.

One thing that is incredibly irritating here is big city drivers who insist on tailgating on wide open highway with literally miles of space. There is room for miles of space between cars here, yet people will get behind you and try to "push" you........Ironically when they do pass, I usually find myself right behind them at the stop sign in town. They'll often risk their lives passing in a blind spot to gain a fraction of a second. When there is traffic.... say half a dozen cars, they will tailgate, and when I leave a few hundred yards ahead of me, finally pass because it apparently irritates them to have driving room...... Again at the stop sign at the junction, they will be right ahead of me......... I'd far rather have them a few hundred yards ahead of me than on my ass!

The 20 miles to town takes 17 minutes at 70 mph ( Montana's speed limit on two lane highways) It takes 16 minutes at 75, and 15 minutes at 80. That difference of one or two minutes amounts to nothing, especially if you end up behind a string of cars anyway..... What's the rush? Is your life worth two minutes? Hills, narrow road and bridges, livestock, deer, farmers, etc.............. 70 is more than fast enough.


H.W.

Twice today on the same highway. Cadillac Escalade just has to be in that cushion space ahead of me. I mean, damn, if there's a space, I must be going too slow. Never mind the cushion space ain't growing. They were just ahead of me until I got in the express lane, and eased on ahead.

Then, I'm in that lane, and I see a PT Cruiser sawing on the back of a BMW. I'm doing 72 mph and not gaining. PT is right on BMW just sawing side to side. Dude. There's nowhere to go. It's barriers on either side.

We all get off when the express ends, into 40 mph traffic. I see the Caddy two cars back. For the next five miles, these two danced all over the highway. Neither ever got any more ahead for all their antics. C'mon, people.
 
How about people who absolutely have to back into a parking space. But they are so bad at it that it takes them 6 attempts. It is not a requirement in most grocery store lots people

And here in Va it tends to be people from DC or MD
 
How about people who absolutely have to back into a parking space. But they are so bad at it that it takes them 6 attempts. It is not a requirement in most grocery store lots people

And here in Va it tends to be people from DC or MD

or worse, PA

and every inch of the back of their vehicle covered in Penguin/Steeler stickers
 
The company I work for requires us to take several different driving classes on a regular basis. My company truck is just a half ton 4 door but I will say that I've learned a lot from the classes, and just from getting older I guess.

When most people complain about other drivers, it's usually because they are being slowed down by them, they believe they are more important than other drivers. It's easy to forget how serious driving is, and to remember that arriving SAFELY is what matters. I am amazed at how many people seem to have never made a driving mistake before either...........
 
Years ago when I would see a car weaving all over the place, speeding up and slowing down I figured they were drunk.

Now I assume they are texting.
 
Twice today on the same highway. Cadillac Escalade just has to be in that cushion space ahead of me. I mean, damn, if there's a space, I must be going too slow. Never mind the cushion space ain't growing. They were just ahead of me until I got in the express lane, and eased on ahead.

Then, I'm in that lane, and I see a PT Cruiser sawing on the back of a BMW. I'm doing 72 mph and not gaining. PT is right on BMW just sawing side to side. Dude. There's nowhere to go. It's barriers on either side.

We all get off when the express ends, into 40 mph traffic. I see the Caddy two cars back. For the next five miles, these two danced all over the highway. Neither ever got any more ahead for all their antics. C'mon, people.


I didn't even bother to comment when someone recently called me a "slow driver".......apparently if you don't tailgate and fill every empty space, you're a "slow driver".... I've watched these idiots all my life....... Always in a hurry, but never gaining anything. I drive fast when there is a reason, and it can actually make a difference. What I see mostly is people driving with a hard on.... A few fractions of a second gained by being the first car at the stop sign on the exit ramp instead of second or third don't amount to a hill of beans...... You just burn more gas and wear out your brakes..... and piss people off............ Half the drivers out there need a cold shower, a few are driving rationally, and the remainder are not really even there.........

H.W.
 
Ever notice the way so many asshats push their grocery carts in Walmart? Guess what??? They drive that way, too! Yesterday, my day almost ended early twice! ****** drivers attempted to pass me ON THE RIGHT...in a lane that quickly ended! Almost lost the right front fender to both of those jackasses!

glenn514:mug:
 
I didn't even bother to comment when someone recently called me a "slow driver".......apparently if you don't tailgate and fill every empty space, you're a "slow driver".... I've watched these idiots all my life....... Always in a hurry, but never gaining anything. I drive fast when there is a reason, and it can actually make a difference. What I see mostly is people driving with a hard on.... A few fractions of a second gained by being the first car at the stop sign on the exit ramp instead of second or third don't amount to a hill of beans...... You just burn more gas and wear out your brakes..... and piss people off............ Half the drivers out there need a cold shower, a few are driving rationally, and the remainder are not really even there.........

H.W.

This x 1,000! Where I'm from, most folks can still find value in simple day to day activities, and a few even believe in treating fellow human beings with respect, though I do fear our southern values are generally on the decline, that is another subject. While many call us slow, I would say that we're just not dumb enough to drive that way!
 
A number of years ago I was with a group of about 15 people in Nevada heading out to a mine for the day. We had to drive about 10 miles on dirt "BLM Superhighways", then climb an extremely steep and rough trail to get there. I placed myself near the rear, and left about a quarter mile between myself and the next vehicle because of the dust...... It wasn't like there was any difficulty finding the way. The one vehicle behind me was right on my bumper the whole way, and when I stopped well below the steep rocky trail so the guy ahead of me who was driving a 2wd would have plenty of room if he spun out. As the fellow ahead of me headed up the steep pitch, the guy behind me got out of his car and started screaming at me "close up close up".... and acting as if the space I left ahead of me was slowing him down. As expected the guy ahead of me spun out and came off the hill backward. The idiot behind me never seemed to realize that had we been close together, all three of us would have had to come off the hill backward. Some folks just don't get it.

In another situation, I had hired a truck with a lowboy to move a 3 yard loader I bought.... in January in Montana......... We were on an extremely remote secondary highway, that was icy, and drifting, with a very long steep grade ahead. The trucker was apparently unfamiliar with the highway, and stopped..... there was no traffic. When he set the air, the truck slid off the road onto the shoulder. I walked up to talk to him, and he asked me if there was a hill ahead............ Arrow Creek hill is a brutally steep hill with no guard rails (at that time), and drop offs of hundreds of feet to the West. I told him there was, and we'd better chain the truck up or he wasn't going to make the hill. He had ONE set of three rail chains.... enough for one axle. Not enough in my opinion for what was ahead.......... I wouldn't have tried it!! We got to the bottom of the hill, and the one car we saw in the entire 60 mile stretch of highway came up and passed me, following the truck less than one car length behind..... I was about 1/4 mile back so if things went wrong I wouldn't be in the path of the wreck. 30,000 lbs of loader, on 30,000 pounds of truck was NOT something I wanted going over the top of me! At the steepest pitch of the hill, I could see the truck spinning.............. The chains were digging and throwing snow out behind like a rooster tail behind a jet ski.......... which is what I expected. The entire time the car behind didn't back of an inch. Someone with a death wish!! He made the hill...........just barely. Not a fun trip. The remaining 80 miles home was all glare ice and blowing snow.

Some folks are just stupid......... and many of them earn their richly deserved Darwin Award eventually. Unfortunately the often remove someone else from the gene pool with them who might have had something to offer the world.

H.W.
 
Get a dash cam*, send the video to 'the cloud', a copy to the cops. Be sure to record plate number and any useful supporting info you can.
*one that produces images that are allowed in court.
 
Not sure if this has been posted, but just got back from a recent week long trip to Puerto Rico. I consider myself an experienced driver. I used to routinely drive a work truck through the Bronx and I'm used to aggressive drivers and honestly prefer them over what we have here in NC. Holy **** though....I've never seen people as a whole drive so terribly.

Stop signs? That's just a suggestion.
Cutting across the highway to drive in the direction of oncoming traffic to take a short cut? Totally better than just making a U-turn at the next intersection.
Parking your car in the middle of the street to grab cash from the ATM? Totally cool. I'm not talking parking on the shoulder, I'm talking parking in the middle of the only driving lane.
 
If you're going to turn from the turning lane in the middle, don't be a wuss about it and stay straddled in the straight lane. Get your ass all the way in the turning lane.
 
Holy crap. Those lane splitters in CA. I don't think it's illegal in MA (my home state), but I see it only rarely, and usually in slow or stopped traffic.
 
Holy crap. Those lane splitters in CA. I don't think it's illegal in MA (my home state), but I see it only rarely, and usually in slow or stopped traffic.

I looked it up. I think it is actually encouraged for 2 wheelers (motorcycles or scooters) to split the lane at red lights in CA.

The ones that get me are the pacers. You know, when you have a wide open road up ahead and two or more cars are side by side filling every lane of the road with a string of cars behind them. And neither will slow down or speed up so that traffic can flow.
 

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