American Pale Ale Lake Walk Pale Ale

[stonebrewer]

Groan! So this was my third batch since I bigafied my system to do 10G batches. I ran it through beersmith just in case, but it did what would be expected and doubled the amounts of everything in the 5G batches listed on page one and of which I have made and enjoyed several batches of LW APA. The first keg of the 10G is, well, underwhelming. Not a lot of taste and little hop aroma, and that with 8-9 oz of hops!! It is still a little flat as it is carbing up, but man I gotta figure out what went wrong here. My other 10G batches (different beers) were as good if not better than my 5G batches as I am recirculating the mash now and getting great efficiency and better beers...Any clues from others who have gone from 5G to 10G batches?

 

[Chriso]

Certainly not the advice you hoped I would give, but - Give it time. At least personally, I find that my beers when they are undercarb'ed are severely lacking in hop pronouncement - and once they hit the correct carbonation level, then the flavor really opens up.

But - something else could be in play as well. I could be missing something.

 

[stonebrewer]

Certainly not the advice you hoped I would give, but - Give it time. At least personally, I find that my beers when they are undercarb'ed are severely lacking in hop pronouncement - and once they hit the correct carbonation level, then the flavor really opens up.

But - something else could be in play as well. I could be missing something.

Seems to be a couple of things at play. Tonight it is carb'd a lot more (still has a day or two to go...) and it is just not the same as the others I have brewed. It seems to be missing on the malt and hop characteristics. I am wondering if I needed to toast another half pound or pound of 2 row as the malt is a little bland (like pure two row almost). The hops mystify me. Not much hop aroma/taste AT ALL...could be carbonation, though this beer has always had a great nose even in the carboy...just isn't there this time. I used fresh hops that were sealed, in the freezer, and smelled wonderful in the boil and dry hop. Gotta review my brew day notes and scratch the noggin' some more. Guess I could throw in another ounce or two of hops in the keg and see what happens...color me confused!

Just reviewed my brew notes and it looks like I may have had a water measurement issue as I had a gallon of extra wort. Even so, I hit both the OG & FG dead on the nose...

Bitterness and color are spot on. Beginning to suspect my refractometer as I have had to calibrate it every time I have used it lately with H2O before each reading (or at least once per brew day I should say). Funny thing is I used it for an Arrogant Bastard clone the next week and it was DEAD ON in taste, hop aroma, et al.

 

[AnonyBrew]

Mmmm, drinking a pour of this right now. Never gets old. This is the 7th time I've made this beer and have hardly strayed from the original recipe. So good.

 

[Sippin37]

This is one mighty fine brew. Thanks Dude!

 

[kennyg]

I think I'm going to make this one and add 1oz citra dry hop on top of everything else. Can't wait!

 

[blitzcreeg]

Can't wait to give this one a go tomorrow morning.

 

[Warrenbic]

I think I'm going to make this one and add 1oz citra dry hop on top of everything else. Can't wait!

I added Citra to the dry hop, really gives it a grapefruit aroma.

 

[Gaylord]

Brewed this last night for the second time ever. Brewed it last August and was probably my favorite homebrew I've ever made. I hit 1.06 OG so I added one bottled water to the carbay and pitched a packet of rehydrated US-05. Still waiting for it to really take it, should be off by tomorrow morning.

 

[Gaylord]

It didn't take off until Sunday, but it's rocking hard right now. Can't wait for a month to go by until this is ready to drink from the keg.

 

[NFryan]

I brewed this a few months ago. It was one of the best beers I've ever had. Everyone who tired it agreed. It was gone in 2 weekends between a few people. I wish it wasn't such a PITA to get amarillo. I am going ot make 10 gal of this soon.

 

[stonebrewer]

Farmhouse has Amarillo in stock. Go get some before it is gone and make this beer!

 

[Vigo_Carpathian]

If I toast the malt at home, I won't have access to a mill afterwards, so it won't work for me. What would be a good substitute for the toasted malt?

 

[kapbrew13]

If I toast the malt at home, I won't have access to a mill afterwards, so it won't work for me. What would be a good substitute for the toasted malt?

Can your lhbs grind it for you?

 

[NFryan]

Farmhouse has Amarillo in stock. Go get some before it is gone and make this beer!

Thanks man 1lb ordered can't wait.

 

[Vigo_Carpathian]

Yeah, but I'd have to take a second trip over there and it is pretty far away, so I'd rather not. I will if I need to though. I really want to make this.

 

[brew2enjoy]

Yeah, but I'd have to take a second trip over there and it is pretty far away, so I'd rather not. I will if I need to though. I really want to make this.

I toasted my malt after it was milled and it worked fine. The beer turned out fantastic. In fact, I just ordered the ingredients to make another batch.

 

[Vigo_Carpathian]

I toasted my malt after it was milled and it worked fine. The beer turned out fantastic. In fact, I just ordered the ingredients to make another batch.

Oh, nice! Thanks a lot, you just saved me an extra trip.

 

[Gaylord]

Fermentation just died down...I've had it at 65 F since Friday...gonna pull it out of the chamber tomorrow and let it finish up at room temperature. Probably let this sit in the primary for 3 weeks then it's off to the keg where it'll be drank rather fast

 

[Warrenbic]

If I toast the malt at home, I won't have access to a mill afterwards, so it won't work for me. What would be a good substitute for the toasted malt?

My HBS accidentally milled and combined all my grain before I could toast it. So I just pulled out 2 lbs of grain from the bag and toasted it. Beer turned out great! Another option would be to replace those 2 lbs with Vienna.

 

[BrewinHooligan]

My HBS accidentally milled and combined all my grain before I could toast it. So I just pulled out 2 lbs of grain from the bag and toasted it. Beer turned out great! Another option would be to replace those 2 lbs with Vienna.

I used Victory instead of home toasting the malt with great success.

 

[kennyg]

So I'm really stoked to be making this beer on Saturday, especially since I've been reading about it for months.

I've got 1 oz each simcoe and amarillo as pellet and 2 oz each as whole hops. Any thoughts on when best to add which type (pellet vs whole hop?) Doubt it will matter, I think this is going to be a freaking blast to brew!!

 

[Sippin37]

So I'm really stoked to be making this beer on Saturday, especially since I've been reading about it for months.

I've got 1 oz each simcoe and amarillo as pellet and 2 oz each as whole hops. Any thoughts on when best to add which type (pellet vs whole hop?) Doubt it will matter, I think this is going to be a freaking blast to brew!!

Definitely dry hop with the whole leaf and bitter with pellets. This should keep your IBUs closer to what is calculated.

 

[kennyg]

Definitely dry hop with the whole leaf and bitter with pellets. This should keep your IBUs closer to what is calculated.

Thanks, Sippin! Can't wait to make this. I'm a lifelong Chicagoan living in exile in the western suburbs.

 

[Sippin37]

Thanks, Sippin! Can't wait to make this. I'm a lifelong Chicagoan living in exile in the western suburbs.

Haha! I'm a lifelong NW Burber living currently in the city. I know how it is to be both places, each has its advantages and disadvantages.

 

[KarlHungus76]

About to mash out in Bucktown in Chicago (4 more minutes). Awesome day to brew. Enjoy the lakewalk. I brewed it last year and loved it. I think it may be my only repeat brew.

 

[kennyg]

Just got done brewing this one. Thanks Dude!! and all other helpful commenters.

I put 1/2lb melanoiden but otherwise followed the recipe and got just over 5 gal OG 1.050 so I'm a very happy boy. Plus I made up 5 gal apfelwein during mash!!!

 

[wvdad]

This recipe looks great. Thanks for all of the info.

 

[kennyg]

I made this using a 1L starter of Wyeast 1056, it took off within 12 hours or less. The airlock bubbled for about a day or so then stopped. I've had it in a swamp cooler with water in the garage where the temps get down to about 58°F at night and up to around 63°F during the day (I expect this to stay consistent for the next week or so). Does anyone think I'm fermenting too cool? I know that during the height of fermentation the temp inside the fermenter can be several degrees above ambient.
I think it will be alright, guess I just need to fret about something...

Thanks in advance for any help.

 

[atimmerman88]

Went through a few dozen pages, and search wasn't helping out...

I know 05 is a nice clean work house that is very consistant for me...

Just curious if anyone has tried wlp007 for a tad drier or wlp051 for a fuller body?

Just looking for some ideas before I brew this sunday.