American Pale Ale Lake Walk Pale Ale

[Dude]

Brewing this today! Wish me luck.

Good luck!

I'm brewing it again on Wednesday. Down to the last gallon because of too many rock band nights. The band really likes it.

I REALLY need to bite the bullet and buy Simcoe leaf hops. This is a better beer with whole hops, IMHO.

 

[korndog]

Good luck!

I REALLY need to bite the bullet and buy Simcoe leaf hops. This is a better beer with whole hops, IMHO.

Yes, I agree. Freshops has them Dude.

I'm kind of embarrassed to say, but I got another medal with your recipe! 3rd out of 42 entries in category 10. I used Maris Otter, WY1272, and all whole hops in that batch.

 

[Beerrific]

I brewed this one again yesterday. My eff. sucked and I accidentally added the 20 minute hops at 40 minutes, so it is going to be a bit light and bitter. Nonetheless it i s bubbling away. The hops smelled great, I forget how wonderful Amarillo hops smell.

 

[undallas]

very yummy wort... I made it today, but made a lot of mess during cool off period which probably cause me 2 qt of conc. wort...

I made a PM version with FWH and late extract addition:

Ingredients

60% efficiency... (crappy LHBS mill)

Amount Item Type % or IBU
3.75 lb Extra Light Dry Extract (3.0 SRM) Dry Extract 36.59 %
3.50 lb Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 34.15 %
2.00 lb Victory Malt (25.0 SRM) Grain 19.51 %
0.50 lb Caramel/Crystal Malt - 60L (60.0 SRM) Grain 4.88 %
0.50 lb Wheat, Flaked (1.6 SRM) Grain 4.88 %
0.63 oz Amarillo Gold [8.60 %] (60 min) (First Wort Hop) Hops 21.0 IBU
1.00 oz Amarillo Gold [8.60 %] (Dry Hop 7 days) Hops -
1.00 oz Simcoe [12.90 %] (Dry Hop 7 days) Hops -
0.75 oz Simcoe [12.90 %] (20 min) Hops 10.4 IBU
1.00 oz Simcoe [12.90 %] (5 min) Hops 6.9 IBU
1.00 oz Amarillo Gold [8.60 %] (5 min) Hops 5.1 IBU
1.00 tsp Irish Moss (Boil 15.0 min) Misc


ps - I saved and vacuum packed my 5 minutes hops (2 oz...) as my my bittering hop for another APA.
I'll ave my dry hops (another 2 oz...) for sure for bittering too.. otherwise, this is an expensive batch.

 

[leghorn]

I'm kind of embarrassed to say, but I got another medal with your recipe! 3rd out of 42 entries in category 10. I used Maris Otter, WY1272, and all whole hops in that batch.

Haha!!! This recipe also won 2nd place at a local competition last fall, in Category 14. I'm starting to wonder how often this recipe has placed somewhere....

 

[Flic]

I brewed this 6 weeks ago and just broke open my first bottle. Would have tasted it earlier but I had a bad sinus infection for nearly 2 weeks. 2 weeks without a brew is torture!! All I can say is that this beer is fantastic. My dad also did the initial tasting and he couldn't believe how good it is. That toasted malt is a nice touch and man, what a nice hop aroma. This may be my house ale going forward.....

 

[Dude]

I brewed this 6 weeks ago and just broke open my first bottle. Would have tasted it earlier but I had a bad sinus infection for nearly 2 weeks. 2 weeks without a brew is torture!! All I can say is that this beer is fantastic. My dad also did the initial tasting and he couldn't believe how good it is. That toasted malt is a nice touch and man, what a nice hop aroma. This may be my house ale going forward.....

Good to hear!

I'm brewing up a 10 gallon batch tomorrow, my shipment of whole leaf Simcoe and Amarillo finally got in from North Country today...so LWPA brew day is tomorrow.
:rockin:

 

[RudeLead]

I´m definitely going to brew up a batch of this very soon!

But Dude: Do you prefer it with or without he Centennial?

Also, I´m going to use torrified instead of flaked wheat or maybe a combo of that and some wheat malt. Guess that´ll work fine.

 

[RudeLead]

This I what I figured out for my PM (sorry about the metric stuff). The calculation program is a bit weird on the IBU's and I think I'll boil the LME for 15 mins in a separate kettle and add to the wort in fermenter for better hop util. as I only have a 10l kettle right now. Anyone tried that?

Original Gravity
1.055
(1.049 to 1.057)
Final Gravity
1.014
(1.012 to 1.015)
Color
10° SRM
(Gold to Copper)
Mash Efficiency
75%

malt and fermentables:
% Kg Malt or Fermentable ppg °L
42% 1.500 Light/Pale Malt Extract Syrup 36 5
28% 1.000 Extra Light Dry Extract 44 3
11% 0.400 Toasted Malt 33 27
6% 0.225 Wheat, Torrified 36 1
6% 0.225 British Crystal 50-60L 34 55
6% 0.200 Biscuit Malt 36 23

Batch size: 19.0 liters

hops:
time grams variety form aa
Boil 60 mins 20 Amarillo pellet 7.0
Boil 20 mins 20 Simcoe pellet 13.0
Boil 5 mins 30 Simcoe pellet 13.0
Boil 5 mins 30 Amarillo pellet 7.0
Dry hop 7 days 30 Simcoe pellet 13.0
Dry hop 7 days 30 Amarillo pellet 7.0

Boil: 18.0 avg liters for 60 minutes (this is not correct though, see top)


Bitterness
4.9 HBU
38.7 IBU

BU:GU
0.71

yeast
Wyeast American Ale II (1272)

Alcohol
5.5% A.B.V.
4.3% A.B.W.
Calories
182 per 12 oz.

misc
boil 15 min 3 grams Irish Moss

 

[Dude]

I´m definitely going to brew up a batch of this very soon!

But Dude: Do you prefer it with or without he Centennial?

Also, I´m going to use torrified instead of flaked wheat or maybe a combo of that and some wheat malt. Guess that´ll work fine.

I prefer it without Centennial:

1. It just isn't needed.
2. I am careful with Centennial now because of the flowery notes I get in the aroma. Not a flower lover.

Torrified wheat should work fine.

I brewed up 10 gallons this week, but I did an experiment that I can't wait to see the results of. I've been kind of bugged recently with how much the safale 05 attenuates, no matter what I do I always get a DRY beer.

So I am using saf 05 for half, and Wyeast 2450 (Denny's Favorite 50), supposedly an old brewtek pub ale strain similar to chico, for the other half. Apparently it is an awesome yeast. Can't wait.

 

[korndog]

I prefer it without Centennial:

I brewed up 10 gallons this week, but I did an experiment that I can't wait to see the results of. I've been kind of bugged recently with how much the safale 05 attenuates, no matter what I do I always get a DRY beer.

So I am using saf 05 for half, and Wyeast 2450 (Denny's Favorite 50), supposedly an old brewtek pub ale strain similar to chico, for the other half. Apparently it is an awesome yeast. Can't wait.

Dude, I look forward to hearing about the DF50. I gave up on US-05 on this beer for the same reason. I have found more consistent attenuation with 1056 and 1272. The beers come out better for me.

 

[Dude]

Dude, I look forward to hearing about the DF50. I gave up on US-05 on this beer for the same reason. I have found more consistent attenuation with 1056 and 1272. The beers come out better for me.

I swear when it was safale 56 it wasn't this attenuative, I usually got a pretty dry beer, but lately it has left the final product kind of lifeless. Little to no malt character.
I hope I don't fall in love with the 2450, cuz it is a limited strain. I'm no yeast rancher!

I also used all whole hops again for the first time in a long time. Can't wait to drink this stuff!

 

[undallas]

Ok.. I'm sold to this Pale Ale from now on.... I just racked it yesterday to secondary.. drank the hydro sample... man, i taste grapefruit and "passion fruit"... what a good ale.
Thanks Dude!

 

[RudeLead]

Ok.. I'm sold to this Pale Ale from now on.... I just racked it yesterday to secondary.. drank the hydro sample... man, i taste grapefruit and "passion fruit"... what a good ale.
Thanks Dude!

Did you use Wyeast 1272? I've noticed that it tends to give a hint of passionfruit in my pale ales. Love that strain!

 

[undallas]

Did you use Wyeast 1272? I've noticed that it tends to give a hint of passionfruit in my pale ales. Love that strain!

Just normal S-05. I think I'll use my cultured pacman next time. I noticed a fruity taste when i brew with it. Good beer for sure... Ill check out Wyest 1272 for more fruity taste.

 

[Dude]

I didn't know that about 1272. Personally I think enough passion fruit comes out between the amarillo/simcoe combo.

I'm seriously jonesing to try the Wyeast 2450 batch...man I can't wait!

 

[korndog]

I didn't know that about 1272. Personally I think enough passion fruit comes out between the amarillo/simcoe combo.

I'm seriously jonesing to try the Wyeast 2450 batch...man I can't wait!

I have brewed this with 1272. The main difference I noticed is the bready quality that comes form this yeast. If fermented cool, the frutiness is minimal. I find it to be a very nice yeast, which is the Anchor Liberty Ale strain. The version I brewed with 1272 and Maris Otter got 45 and 46 pts. in a major competition recently, so I think it's a good yeast for this beer if you would like to try a change of pace.

Best
KD

 

[RudeLead]

Wyeast and White Labs are most commonly available where I live, but I´m not such a big fan of the White Labs vials, have had some problems with infections while the slap packs are very easy to sanitize and they pitch very well without a starter. It might be my perseption, but I´ve brewn a quite cascade´y APA with both 1056 and 1272 and I´ve noticed a whiff of passionfruit when using the latter. I have had the temps a bit high, though. But I usually like some fruitiness in my pale ales.

 

[Dude]

I have brewed this with 1272. The main difference I noticed is the bready quality that comes form this yeast. If fermented cool, the frutiness is minimal. I find it to be a very nice yeast, which is the Anchor Liberty Ale strain. The version I brewed with 1272 and Maris Otter got 45 and 46 pts. in a major competition recently, so I think it's a good yeast for this beer if you would like to try a change of pace.

Best
KD

Next time I will definitely do a 1272. Incidentally, Liberty Ale is where I got the idea to add some toasted malt. I found an excerpt way back when I started brewing that Liberty Ale had some.

Another yeast I'd like to try is the Wyeast cask ale yeast that is discontinued, but brought back on occasion. I think it is actually available this spring.

 

[korndog]

Next time I will definitely do a 1272. Incidentally, Liberty Ale is where I got the idea to add some toasted malt. I found an excerpt way back when I started brewing that Liberty Ale had some.

Another yeast I'd like to try is the Wyeast cask ale yeast that is discontinued, but brought back on occasion. I think it is actually available this spring.

The cask ale yeast (1026 I think) was released in the fall VSS program. It's a very nice yeast and drops out for a dead clear beer very quickly. Yes, it would be nice for this recipe I think. I used it for a hop-bursted IPA and found it delicious.

 

[Dude]

The cask ale yeast (1026 I think) was released in the fall VSS program. It's a very nice yeast and drops out for a dead clear beer very quickly. Yes, it would be nice for this recipe I think. I used it for a hop-bursted IPA and found it delicious.

Oh, okay. I'll google and try to find some.

Did you use it in the CJ's JPA in your sig?

 

[korndog]

Oh, okay. I'll google and try to find some.

Did you use it in the CJ's JPA in your sig?

Yeah, it was very good, but I messed up the IBU in the beer somehow. It was very mildly bittered for the style, but quite good.

 

[korndog]

Ok, one more post to this thread today; sorry. I recently brewed this beer and overshot my OG in the kettle by a mile. I made some on-the-fly adjustments to take this clearly into IPA territory. It ended up at 1.067 and 60 IBU. I double dry-hopped with Amarillo and Simcoe and have a mistake-beer that is undoubtedly my best IPA ever. The legend of Lake Walk goes on.....

KD

 

[Dude]

Ok, one more post to this thread today; sorry. I recently brewed this beer and overshot my OG in the kettle by a mile. I made some on-the-fly adjustments to take this clearly into IPA territory. It ended up at 1.067 and 60 IBU. I double dry-hopped with Amarillo and Simcoe and have a mistake-beer that is undoubtedly my best IPA ever. The legend of Lake Walk goes on.....

KD

LOL, I just did that on my last batch, but your quick goat thinking surely is better than my solution--I diluted with a little water.

I have often thought about doing a LWIPA. In fact, post your recipe and we'll call it a birth of a legend--except instead of LWIPA, name it after the street you live on (or something like that!).

 

[McKBrew]

I still have fond memories of this beer a year ago as my first AG. It's already slated to be my first 10G batch, brewing in April sometime.

 

[RudeLead]

Ahh... Finally got my Amarillo and Simcoe! Brewing this one up today, just can´t wait. Toasting my pale malt as I speak. Yummy!

 

[hammacks]

Awesome.

Dry hop still settling in the bottom of the keg (got through my paint strainer a bit I guess)

I upped the IBUs a bit and the gravity to 1060, just to put it as a small IPA for sure.

But man this is great. Best beer I've brewed and a great first beer to kill my infection streak (Bleach FTW!).

Thanks for the recipe! I'm thinking about brewing this multiple times, each time going a bit bigger until I can hit DIPA status and keep it balanced.

My mouth is so happy right now!

 

[IanP]

Just wanted to say Thanks to the Dude for this recipe. I brewed my first AG batch today and chose Lake Walk Pale Ale as my starting point, partly for the attraction of the style and hop choice (in my world 'Amarillo' is spoken like Homer Simpson says 'Donuts'), but also because so many others have vouched for it as a great brew. I followed the recipe as closely as possible, only substituting WLP001 for Safale 05 (not too radical I hope), and all went well. OG 1053, gorgeous color, lip smacking aroma, and the sun shone.

Thanks Dude!

 

[Dude]

Good to hear!! Sounds like it went well, let us know how it tastes in a couple weeks!

 

[RudeLead]

Nice! Finally got to brew up a batch of this brew today. Had to do a couple of small modifications, but so far everything seems just great. Uhmm... The whole house smelled like perfume from the hops. Sweet...