American Pale Ale Kona, Fire Rock Pale Ale (AG Clone)

[caughtablaze]

thanks BM, i'm real excited to try this one!

 

[Jolly McStanson]

I just kegged this one tonight. Now this my new least greenest beer Iv ever made. The Orange Cascade is a close second.

I used a slurry from a local Micro Brewery. It was almost a full quart of yeast. It began working hard a half hour after I pitched. It has great mouth feel and a great taste. It is green a little but not much. Cool er down with some carbonation. Let er age a few more weeks and wow.

 

[magnj]

Can you explain the Honey Malt? I'm looking forward to trying this. I'm gonna use Wyeast 2565 I think.

 

[BierMuncher]

Honey malt lends a nice sweetness to the beer.

Oh...and then there was this....

 

[magnj]

Sorry, I saw it on their site. I really meant to ask what it lends to the beer but I've read a bit and it seems to be a unique sweet flavor with no substitute so I'll try it. I played with the recipe a little bit but I think it's still the same in spirit, I'll report back when I try some.

 

[Saccharomyces]

Honey malt is similar to Belgian Aromatic or German Melanoidin. They all lend a sweetness that comes through in the finished beer. Melanoidin tastes a bit like candied apples to me, honey malt tastes a bit like honey, and aromatic is like a sweet bread.

 

[Forbein11]

Quick question on the extract version. Would you still dryhop with centennial. I notice it's in the AG but not listed under the extract. I transferred to secondary last night and it is already excellent. I don't want to mess it up. Thank you very much for posting the recipe.

 

[BierMuncher]

Quick question on the extract version. Would you still dryhop with centennial. I notice it's in the AG but not listed under the extract. I transferred to secondary last night and it is already excellent. I don't want to mess it up. Thank you very much for posting the recipe.

Yes, go a head and dry hop.

I'd give it five days.

 

[nutcase]

nice Biermunch. I think I'm making this next. Thank you much

 

[Forbein11]

Thanks for posting this recipe and the advice on the dryhopping. This beer is great! It is only 9 days in the bottle and its already a favorite. It will be in the rotation for a long time. Thanks again. :rockin:

Jamie

 

[Aubie Stout]

Drinking the second round. Thanks again!

 

[davebl]

Never actually had one, but it looks great. I'm gonna brew tomorrow, with a few sub's:

S-04 for the yeast
I don't have any Mt Hood, so I was thinking about Saaz or Hallertauer. Not identical, just looking for something grassy, and as BM said "some complexity away from the american citrus hops"

Edit: What about fuggles in place of the mt hood?

 

[BierMuncher]

Never actually had one, but it looks great. I'm gonna brew tomorrow, with a few sub's:

S-04 for the yeast
I don't have any Mt Hood, so I was thinking about Saaz or Hallertauer. Not identical, just looking for something grassy, and as BM said "some complexity away from the american citrus hops"

Edit: What about fuggles in place of the mt hood?

Fuggles would work well, but I am a fan of the Hallertau. :rockin:

 

[davebl]

Hallertau it is. I'm excited about this APA, I like the munich malt, and the honey looks nice.

 

[davebl]

Alright, 11 gallons, in the fermenters. I swapped the Marris Otter for 2-row (forgot I was out of MO), and mt hood for US Hallertau, and used S-04.

Finished at 1.060 with 85% eff... normally I run about 75%. I started a new fly sparging method that REALLY seems to be working.

The OG sample tasted great. Normally I make my pale ales and IPA's more on the dry side, so I am excited to see what the higher mash and S-04 does.

Looks like another winning brew from BM!

 

[BierMuncher]

Alright, 11 gallons, in the fermenters.

excellent.....

 

[Sun Devil]

Finished at 1.060 with 85% eff... normally I run about 75%. I started a new fly sparging method that REALLY seems to be working.

What change did you make that took you from 75% to 85%? I'm continuously hitting 73-75% fly sparging, wouldn't mind a boost if it was as consistent.

 

[davebl]

What change did you make that took you from 75% to 85%? I'm continuously hitting 73-75% fly sparging, wouldn't mind a boost if it was as consistent.

I did two things:

1) Thinned my mash from 1.25qts/gal to 1.5qts/gal. This is a lot better for my system anyway because I use a RIMS and recirculate the mash.. seemed to go better.

2) I slowed my sparge way down. 4.5 minutes per gallon.

After mashing I drained the wort until it was just about at the grain bed, then started fly sparging, keeping the level in the mash tun at about an inch above the grain bed.

Seems to have worked, so far.

 

[BierMuncher]

2) I slowed my sparge way down. 4.5 minutes per gallon.

Huh??????????

 

[davebl]

Huh??????????

I timed the runoff from the mash tun, and it was 4.5 minutes for every gallon into the boil pot.

I used to sparge in about 25 minutes...

 

[Liquidicem]

I timed the runoff from the mash tun, and it was 4.5 minutes for every gallon into the boil pot.

I used to sparge in about 25 minutes...

Minutes per gallon.... I read that as GPM and had the same reaction as BM.

 

[BierMuncher]

Minutes per gallon.... I read that as GPM and had the same reaction as BM.

Okay...so I'm not alone in my old age crazy eyes syndrome.

 

[ifishsum]

I've never had the original Fire Rock, but it sounded good and this one has since become a staple in my little operation. Awesome example of an APA, thanks BM!

 

[Medo]

Ahoy hoy,
I have been planning on brewing this beer solely based on this thread. Until last night. As I walked through the Safeway beer store, there it was. The real thing. 9.95 a sixer. I grabbed one and took it home. The wife got one of them. I got the other 5. The bomb. The bomb. How tasty. Smooth and just drinkable. I was guzzling it.
It was so good. First store bought in a month or so. Im just about to free up a couple carboys, but this might end up being a 10 galloner going in the fermenator. mmm mmm good.....

 

[BierMuncher]

...It was so good. First store bought in a month or so. Im just about to free up a couple carboys, but this might end up being a 10 galloner going in the fermenator. mmm mmm good.....

I'd suggest nothing less than 10-gallons for someone so far north.

 

[sparkyaber]

BM, is this some thing that would be drinkable in 4 weeks five days? I am a little pushed for time but this recipe looks great.

 

[Medo]

Ahoy hoy,
well I just brewed up a 10 gallonish batch. The ferminator is chugging nicely. I cannot wait to see how this one turns out! mmm mmm good....

 

[ifishsum]

is this some thing that would be drinkable in 4 weeks five days? I am a little pushed for time but this recipe looks great.

When I've made it the taste wasn't quite there until about 7-8 weeks total, so I wouldn't count on it for that time frame. A hefeweizen is the best bet for 4-5 weeks IMO.

 

[Sun Devil]

When I've made it the taste wasn't quite there until about 7-8 weeks total, so I wouldn't count on it for that time frame. .

That was my experience too, after about 8 weeks it was pretty darn close. I had bottled a few as well and at about 6 months it was spot on.

 

[simps984]

Having planted a cascade hop rhizome a few weeks ago, I've been fantasizing about which beer I'm going to brew this fall using my harvested hops. I'm pretty much settled on this recipe, it sounds excellent.