Judgmental neighbors

[CastleHollow]

Bring your neighbor a couple bottles from this batch when you're done. Label it "Liquid Bread of Life."

Adding to what others have said about parenting, here's my "daughter story:"

I brewed a celebratory beer when my daughter was born, called it "Jackie's Jammin' Ale" and labeled it with a scanned image from her hospital photo. We still have an empty re-capped bottle, and it's one of her favorite birth-related mementos--just doesn't fit in the baby book! Over the past 18 years, she has helped me measure ingredients, stir the mash, cook wort on brew day, bottle, has watched with fascination as the yeast percolated away in the secondary, and recently wanted to use brewing as the centerpiece of an IB Biology lab showcasing the life cycle of yeast and highlighting different characteristics in yeast strains.

I can say with authority that you definitely ARE providing great memories for your daughter, so the next time your neighbor throws that line at you, agree and thank her--we'd probably all be better off with more women in brewing!

 

[ahaley]

Bring your neighbor a couple bottles from this batch when you're done. Label it "Liquid Bread of Life."

Adding to what others have said about parenting, here's my "daughter story:"

I brewed a celebratory beer when my daughter was born, called it "Jackie's Jammin' Ale" and labeled it with a scanned image from her hospital photo. We still have an empty re-capped bottle, and it's one of her favorite birth-related mementos--just doesn't fit in the baby book! Over the past 18 years, she has helped me measure ingredients, stir the mash, cook wort on brew day, bottle, has watched with fascination as the yeast percolated away in the secondary, and recently wanted to use brewing as the centerpiece of an IB Biology lab showcasing the life cycle of yeast and highlighting different characteristics in yeast strains.

I can say with authority that you definitely ARE providing great memories for your daughter, so the next time your neighbor throws that line at you, agree and thank her--we'd probably all be better off with more women in brewing!

Hey oh! That's great to hear how much your daughter likes it! I hope when my girl is born she doesn't feel weird with daddy making beer and guns... ( next year I'm going to school to be a gunsmith. )

 

[kh54s10]

Pull out your 44 Magnum at tell her to keep her nose on her side of the fence and to mind her own business.

Then wait for the cops to arrive

 

[sendkyleanemail]

Ask her is she has accepted Richard Dawkins into her heart. Then when she says "who?!?" invite her per for a beer HAHAHA

 

[Pumbaa]

I had an ok 3 tier, gravity fed system going. Only problem is its along the fence line of my bible thumping neighbor. Last time I brewed she peaked her eye through the crack of the fence, asked what I was doing and after I answered her she said "what great memories your daughter will have." what a condescending bitch! I wanted to choke her with my bare hands. So I'm planning on welding a 3 tier system on wheels so I can get as far away from that as possible.

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next time she pulls that ram a stick through the fence.

 

[SwampassJ]

next time she pulls that ram a stick through the fence.

Mmmmmm glory hole.

 

[Greyhound]

... she said "what great memories your daughter will have."

When I first read that, I thought, "Yeah, those really would be great childhood memories". Then I realized that she was being ignorant and condescending. Regardless of what she thinks, I think your daughter will definitely remember these times fondly.

 

[mtg4772]

Bring your neighbor a couple bottles from this batch when you're done. Label it "Liquid Bread of Life."

Adding to what others have said about parenting, here's my "daughter story:"

I brewed a celebratory beer when my daughter was born, called it "Jackie's Jammin' Ale" and labeled it with a scanned image from her hospital photo. We still have an empty re-capped bottle, and it's one of her favorite birth-related mementos--just doesn't fit in the baby book! Over the past 18 years, she has helped me measure ingredients, stir the mash, cook wort on brew day, bottle, has watched with fascination as the yeast percolated away in the secondary, and recently wanted to use brewing as the centerpiece of an IB Biology lab showcasing the life cycle of yeast and highlighting different characteristics in yeast strains.

I can say with authority that you definitely ARE providing great memories for your daughter, so the next time your neighbor throws that line at you, agree and thank her--we'd probably all be better off with more women in brewing!

I read this post to my wife (Medical Doctor) she said, "that's cool." My thoughts: awesome story. Thanks for the kind words.

 

[Bernie Brewer]

I thought good fences were supposed to make good neighbors?

 

[ReverseApacheMaster]

I thought good fences were supposed to make good neighbors?

His fence sucks. She can see right through it.

 

[JonM]

Martin Luther brewed beer.

 

[MyNameIsPaul]

I rather live next to a Brewer than a pedophile. Maybe she's Catholic? You could always remind her what her church seems to look over...then ask if brewing beer is so bad?

 

[Revvy]

Martin Luther brewed beer.

And wrote quite a lot about it.

"From Man's sweat and God's love, beer came into the world."

"I sit here and drink my good Wittenberg Beer, and the Kingdom of God comes all by itself."

You know how fundies like to leave those "Jack Chick" comics all over the place, you should leave a copy of this book on her porch.

The introduction alone is full of pretty famous theologians who were quite fond of their beer. Including those who's later denominations often strayed far beyond their views, and later became antagonistic towards alcohol.

 

[Homercidal]

I feel sorry for her. She can continue to look at brewing as a purely sinful act, or she can wake up and see that it's not different than pretty much any other thing you can do.

Personally, my youngest daughter loves to brew with me. We even played chess a few years back in 20 degree weather in the garage while the boil was going. She can measure grains, and crush them. She can measure out water additions and has lately even started to learn to build recipes and make water adjustments.

I tell her stories about when I was a kid and we listen to music.

it actually is a good way to create memories. Unless you are getting drunk and beating her, I suppose...

 

[TyTanium]

People have their reasons for being fearful of alcohol. Tough to know what her story is. Alcohol has intensified pain in many people's lives, so tread carefully and use prudence. If you feel inclined to engage her in conversation, here's some food for thought:

Ask her who she thinks created yeast? Who does she think created the process of fermentation?
“The use of gifts of God cannot be wrong, if they are directed to the same purpose for which the Creator himself has created and destined them.” God has “made the earthly blessings for our benefit, and not for our harm.” “If we study…why he has created the various kinds of food, we shall find that it was his intention not only to provide for our needs, but likewise for our pleasure and for our delight…For, if this were not true, the Psalmist would not enumerate among the divine blessings “the wine that makes glad the heart of man…” - John Calvin

“Beer, well respected and rightly consumed, is a gift of God. It is one of his mysteries, which it was his delight to conceal and the glory of kings to search out. And men enjoy it to mark their days and celebrate their moments and stand with their brothers in the face of what life brings." -Stephen Mansfield (in book Revvy mentioned above)

“Do not suppose that abuses are eliminated by destroying the object which is abused. Men can go wrong with wine and women. Shall we then prohibit and abolish women?” -Martin Luther

 

[mtg4772]

"The Search for God and Guinness." I'm getting very interested in this book. Not for my neighbor but for my own metaphysical enjoyment.

Regarding my neighbor: Yesterday she posted on my wife's facebook page. Paraphrasing:

'Vacation checklist. Stop mail, check. Stop newspaper, check. Board dog, check. Inform neighbor, oops.'

Oops?! Really? Wow man! It's getting more and more difficult to ignore this person. I think I'm going to get this book and not only give it to her, but beat her with it. Geez!

 

[Airborneguy]

Inform neighbor? I don't get it. You went on vacation or them? And why is this person a friend of your wife on facebook?

 

[mtg4772]

Inform neighbor? I don't get it. You went on vacation or them? And why is this person a friend of your wife on facebook?

Yes, we recently went on vacation. For some reason she thinks we should keep her up to speed on all our comings and goings.

And yes, unfortunately we are facebook friends. Why? Well, we made the connection before she started demonstrating mental health issues. And since we're neighbors it isn't easy to just unfriend. Instead we ignore her posts.

I don't feel threatened at all. I've helped with their X-mas lights and any thing else they've needed. They've helped when our dog got out by securing the dog and patching the fence. For the most part they and we are good people. I suppose our differences are substantial though.

I'm just venting about the guilt trip this individual laid on me. I forgot to mention that after she made her comment she started singing, "oh precious memories." And, from everyones' comments here. I'm now confident that yes, they will be precious memories. Thanks everybody.

 

[Pumbaa]

And yes, unfortunately we are facebook friends. Why? Well, we made the connection before she started demonstrating mental health issues. And since we're neighbors it isn't easy to just unfriend. Instead we ignore her posts.

cripes I drop facebook "friends" at a drop of a hat. TBH I dont know how most of them even got on my GD list . . .Hell I drop family members at times when they piss me off and then claim ignorance when they ask why.

 

[Airborneguy]

Same here. I don't play nicey nice games in any facet of life. Piss me off and I make it quite clear immediately.

 

[CreamyGoodness]

Off Topic Airborne: But I have a couple questions about being a fellow NYC Brewer if you dont mind at some point in private (Im battling small apartmentosis).

I have to say my sorrow/patience with the mentally ill is waning, which isnt very liberal of me but f' it. Between the guy across the street throwing his pants out the window and every crazy buzzard in New York showing up either in the workplace or on the subway I have once again dug into my bag of nasty William S. Burroughs quotes.

- "Do NOT offer sympathy to the mentally ill. Tell him firmly, 'I was not paid to listen to this drivel, you are a terminal ****'"

If your neighbor was worthy of your sympathy she'd keep her face-hole shut. Airborne is right about living in New York, for the most part we don't say things like that to our neighbors out of fear of getting our noses broken.

/rant

Sorry all... it'll pass... I havent eaten.

 

[Airborneguy]

Send me a PM

 

[mtg4772]

Off Topic Airborne: But I have a couple questions about being a fellow NYC Brewer if you dont mind at some point in private (Im battling small apartmentosis).

I have to say my sorrow/patience with the mentally ill is waning, which isnt very liberal of me but f' it. Between the guy across the street throwing his pants out the window and every crazy buzzard in New York showing up either in the workplace or on the subway I have once again dug into my bag of nasty William S. Burroughs quotes.

- "Do NOT offer sympathy to the mentally ill. Tell him firmly, 'I was not paid to listen to this drivel, you are a terminal ****'"

If your neighbor was worthy of your sympathy she'd keep her face-hole shut. Airborne is right about living in New York, for the most part we don't say things like that to our neighbors out of fear of getting our noses broken.

/rant

Sorry all... it'll pass... I havent eaten.

Yeah man! I just want to open up on her and tell her off. But it has been my experience that that will come back to bite me in the rear.

1. They're not invited to parties anymore and 2. at some point I'm going to start firing rounds back in her direction. I don't want to be mean but something's gotta give.

 

[Tiktock]

Her kids will have childhood memories of an outdated-book-inspired guilt and fear. Yours will have memories doing something with their parents. If she wants to debate parenting, you should memorize this quote for her and ask her if thats the kind of role model she wants her children to have. It will surely ruffle her feathers a lot more than your beer:

"The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction:jealous and proud of it; petty, unjust, unforgiving, control freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty, ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevent bully."

 

[Pumbaa]

"Do NOT offer sympathy to the mentally ill. Tell him firmly, 'I was not paid to listen to this drivel, you are a terminal ****'"

I want to steal this but that thread got locked

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[Pumbaa]

ok NOW see my sig

 

[mtg4772]

Her kids will have childhood memories of an outdated-book-inspired guilt and fear. Yours will have memories doing something with their parents. If she wants to debate parenting, you should memorize this quote for her and ask her if thats the kind of role model she wants her children to have. It will surely ruffle her feathers a lot more than your beer:

"The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction:jealous and proud of it; petty, unjust, unforgiving, control freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty, ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevent bully."

She is retired on the west coast. Her kids have their careers on the east coast. I'm sure there is a reason her kids moved so far away.

 

[CreamyGoodness]

As a mother herself, she should know that mention of your kids is absolutely taboo. I dont have any of my own, but I know that I will grin and bear an awful lot of unkind language if it means not going to war with my neighbors (who, honestly, are pretty easy to get along with as it happens), but if one were to mention my fiance in an unkind way everything would go all dark and suddenly I'd be in the back of Airborneguy's squad car...

 

[beerloaf]

My daughter loves to bottle as well. It's amazing that she spills a lot less beer during the process than I do. She likes to point that out to me often.

I've met some extremely judgemental people before, some of whom were religious and some who were not. Some people are just aholes for the sake of being that way.

beerloaf

 

[mtg4772]

As a mother herself, she should know that mention of your kids is absolutely taboo.

Yeah! What is she doing bringing up my kid in the first place. I was minding my own business, brewing with my brother who just got over a pretty heavy duty surgery.

Wow! The audicity of this person. At dinner last night my mother-in-law brought up this neighbor and apparently this neighbor said something to her recently. This neighbor is a piece of work; an absolute piece of work.