Jester King Thread

[BusinessSloth]

I finally made the trip to Pieous and it really killed Stanleys. I wasn't ever really a huge fan of Stanleys but I won't ever order any food from them again unless I'm belligerent drunk and need to soak up some alcohol.

Before someone starts talking ****. Stanleys has pretty good ingredients but they're overpriced, don't put enough toppings on the pizza, and have way too many bubbles in the dough. If I'm going to pay $15 for a 10-12 inch pie it needs to have toppings in almost every bite. They're not gourmet but in my younger days I worked/managed for gattis, papa johns, pizza inn, pizza hut, and double daves. I know the pizza basics

I don't recall, Jester king & stanleys are OK with bringing outside food to either one of their establishments, correct?

 

[dumptruck811]

I don't recall, Jester king & stanleys are OK with bringing outside food to either one of their establishments, correct?

I don't think they're okay with outside food. It's part of the reason that Stanleys doesn't improve quality

 

[BusinessSloth]

I don't think they're okay with outside food. It's part of the reason that Stanleys doesn't improve quality

I wouldn't say all of stanleys is bad. I enjoy the heck out of a Willie pizza.

 

[tx_beer_man]

I need to work on my trolling skills.. Really hoped to disrail the Hibernal dichotomies thread back into MvB "controversy" but my attempts appear to have failed...

Back to the drawing board.

I'm giving up on that sh!thole BA. I'll still like and comment where I can help out but not even worth commenting on anything issue-related. Freakin' mods deleting everything I post.

 

[BusinessSloth]

Freakin' mods deleting everything I post.

I wonder why.

 

[tx_beer_man]

I liked that asparagus pizza, freakin glorious.

I wonder why.

Hahah yeah I do keep saying, no wonder people lurk in BA

 

[mwbbq]

I don't think they're okay with outside food. It's part of the reason that Stanleys doesn't improve quality

Correct, they repeatedly ask you not to bring outside food or beverages and there's a sign at the front of the parking lot now too. Not that that stops me from the occasional Pieous Plate or beer to share, but I try to be respectful for the most part. Stanley's isn't bad by any means, but it's a 90 and Pieous is 100 (for Austin). And the line is shorter at Pieous. And they have Brisket Pastrami.

 

[Lutter]

ElkSherpa, can I volunteer for being the beer police?

 

[ata1k]

I wasn't responding to your post, and also I'm not sure how what I said invalidates your post? I've done the exact same thing as you. Not here to really chide anyone (except those guys with the 50ish bottles. F that). We're all adults here. Except Compton25. Pretty sure he's Benjamin Button

If someone chooses to get back in line or mule, whatever. I'm not going to let it ruin my day. I was too busy enjoying MVB on tap and player hatin on my Stanleys pizza (never getting the Dexter again )

Maybe 'invalidates' was the wrong word. I just wasnt the target audience -> "Ok. That doesn't answer my question though. I'm talking about bringing people that don't even drink beer or have no interest in buying beer/merch/whatever"

I really hope they have some extra kegs of MvB for this weekend(Sat afternoon... )

 

[JulianB1]

Ok. That doesn't answer my question though. I'm talking about bringing people that don't even drink beer or have no interest in buying beer/merch/whatever, and using them to end up with more bottles of a release than intended. How is that any better than getting back in line, when the end result is the same?

I see it pretty simply: a brewery's "intent" to me is largely irrelevant, what matters is what they actually do. In this case, "what they do" means setting a limit per person per day on how much they can purchase, and enforcing that limit through hand stamps. The person who washes the stamp off, puts on a disguise, etc. is trying to get around that by tricking the brewery into selling he or she more bottles than the brewery expressly wishes to. A brewery cannot, however, enforce a limit on how many bottles of the beer a person can possess or own. Once those bottles have been sold to an individual who the brewery agreed followed their purchasing rules, that person is free to pass that bottle off to another individual, even if said individual already has one of their own. Whether that transaction is a muling arrangement or a trade, and whether it was agreed on before or ahead of time, doesn't really make any material difference to me.

I personally don't care much about muling in general, but the way some of it allegedly happens at Jester King -harassing strangers at the neighboring restaurant to act as mules- seems pretty pathetic.

 

[wiingman]

I keep thinking about the BPT route, but that would mostly limit sales to only us nerds. I think JK likes nothing better than somebody trying their beer for the first time, enjoying it, and being able to take a bottle home.

That's what taps and onsite consumption is for. The more I think about it, BPT or some advance signup system is the way to go. The FIRST MvB release was perfect.

Edit to clarify last year's batch 1 MvB/CdT release.

 

[BusinessSloth]

I see it pretty simply: a brewery's "intent" to me is largely irrelevant, what matters is what they actually do. In this case, "what they do" means setting a limit per person per day on how much they can purchase, and enforcing that limit through hand stamps. The person who washes the stamp off, puts on a disguise, etc. is trying to get around that by tricking the brewery into selling he or she more bottles than the brewery expressly wishes to. A brewery cannot, however, enforce a limit on how many bottles of the beer a person can possess or own. Once those bottles have been sold to an individual who the brewery agreed followed their purchasing rules, that person is free to pass that bottle off to another individual, even if said individual already has one of their own. Whether that transaction is a muling arrangement or a trade, and whether it was agreed on before or ahead of time, doesn't really make any material difference to me.

I personally don't care much about muling in general, but the way some of it allegedly happens at Jester King -harassing strangers at the neighboring restaurant to act as mules- seems pretty pathetic.

I typed out a long response to your post, then thought "**** it". Deleted it. Here's a gif instead

 

[Touch_My_BrettSacch]

I wouldn't say all of stanleys is bad. I enjoy the heck out of a Willie pizza.

No pickles doe.

Yeah their salads are bomb too. I prefer Pieus tho.

 

[BusinessSloth]

No pickles doe.

Yeah their salads are bomb too. I prefer Pieus tho.

Doesn't the willie come with pickles?

 

[Shakedwnst]

Aren't people going to abuse any system you put out there? I feel like the best one is when other patrons can't tell how badly it's being abused.

 

[air]

I wouldn't say all of stanleys is bad. I enjoy the heck out of a Willie pizza.

Also like their garlic knots, but all in all, Pieous wins every time.

 

[BusinessSloth]

Also like their garlic knots, but all in all, Pieous wins every time.

Garlic knots had no flavor last time I tried them

 

[tofuspeedstar]

I want to open an MvB, video tape me opening it, pouring it, and drinking it.

And watch grown men cry over beer.

I still think this is the funniest **** ever when grown men (who have careers, kids, wives) get so butt hurt over beer they resort to name calling and crying about how life isn't fair they didn't get that release.

JK announces their releases with ample time to plan a weekend to make a trip to Austin if you are not in the area. In that time you can also do the following:

-Assemble a team of mules
-Coordinate transportation for said mules
-Get more bottles of x beer that Jester King is releasing that weekend.


not rocket science.


That guy from Oklahoma killed it. But, was a ****** about it. *shrugs*


Just another irrelevant post from Tofuspeedstar.


#Texasnobody.

 

[SirDickButts]

all my feels are in this gif.

 

[jbeezification1]

Is one allowed multiple trips through the Salt Lick line?

You can but most of us have learned to not even take one trip through.

 

[Touch_My_BrettSacch]

Doesn't the willie come with pickles?

It does, but dont I recall you being anti pickle and me eating all of them 2 weeks ago?

 

[BusinessSloth]

It does, but dont I recall you being anti pickle and me eating all of them 2 weeks ago?

You would be correct sir. I'll eat pickled anything.....other than pickles themselves. Perhaps even stranger, I love cucumbers.

 

[HopAG]

This MvB discussion gave me a chuckle...

Reason I don't beer anymore

 

[Unbreakabolt]

Alright, I know I'm going to get murdered for this but here it goes . . .

JK definitely did the right thing with the post on limits and everyone there was cool as hell on Saturday. Getting our bottles was easy peasey and the draft offerings were awesome.

But looking at the photo of the bottle line and knowing how long it takes to get a pour there when it's crowded, how do you all do it? After taking my brother to funk and sour fest in 2013 that **** left him with PTSD from the lines and now it's like pulling teeth to even get him to drive me over there. I would think everyone would be pulling for BPT as an options just to improve quality of life. Seems to me that the people who get off on exclusivity, lines and lining up mules for whale hunting is exactly what's wrong with beer and we'd be better off in the long run to be more civil and more fun.

 

[Unbreakabolt]

Oh and to not be a negative nancy, reposé is a ******* club banger. Maybe the best JK beer I've had. Soooo good

 

[mgr78704]

Alright, I know I'm going to get murdered for this but here it goes . . .

JK definitely did the right thing with the post on limits and everyone there was cool as hell on Saturday. Getting our bottles was easy peasey and the draft offerings were awesome.

But looking at the photo of the bottle line and knowing how long it takes to get a pour there when it's crowded, how do you all do it? After taking my brother to funk and sour fest in 2013 that **** left him with PTSD from the lines and now it's like pulling teeth to even get him to drive me over there. I would think everyone would be pulling for BPT as an options just to improve quality of life. Seems to me that the people who get off on exclusivity, lines and lining up mules for whale hunting is exactly what's wrong with beer and we'd be better off in the long run to be more civil and more fun.

The bottle line isn't that bad 95% of the time...it's always going to look it's worst right at opening...and I wouldn't compare any weekend to Funk and Sour Fest '13...that was an outlier...it's just a matter of going at the right times sometimes. Get pours when the bottle line is super long like that, then get bottles when it ultimately dies down 30-45 minutes later.

 

[shelf_turd_ferguson]

Did a post get deleted on page 99?

At the risk of opening a can O' worms, I have to ask this. Is there really a 'moral' difference between rubbing ink off your hand to get back in line, and bringing mules to get extra bottles for yourself? I fail to see what makes one more acceptable than the other. No matter how you look at it, one person is ending up with more than the intended limit of 1 per person.

Please enlighten me, as I'm just trying to understand why muling appears to be considered acceptable by a majority, and the other is "cheating" the system. Why are not both 'cheating' the system?

Obviously it's different if your spouse or whatever likes the beer and drinks it/you both share bottles. Also trading is a separate action as well to me. (I did trade for extra MVB)

Fair devil's advocate question.
I was confused til you clarified that you meant mules with no interest in supporting the brewery. In that case, there may still be some benefit if the mule master buys the mules pizza, or tries to get them to try a beer or wine, etc on site. But if they are just physical bodies who might as well be sleeping during their visit, the difference nearly vanishes. Until you consider 1 per person. If that person doesn't want to be there and pouts in the car the whole time, that person is still a unique visitor in line that day for beer. So it comes down to respecting the system set up by JK.
Same end result, different in terms of following JK's rules.

Increase bottle limits and then it won't give people near the incentive to cheat the system. With a release of this size, 1 per is just silly. It really says a big FU to people not from the area. There is really no incentive to travel that far to get 1 bottle. This is why people mule and hustle. Locals can get 3 bottles for far less cost by coming every day. And sadly some locals point fingers when they are just as guilty.

If you ask, maybe JK will write an apology note to you for not opening near your city.

Srsly? The incentive is going out, trying the beer, and getting the bottle. If 1 is not enough incentive for you, fine. I understand 2 would be more of an incentive, but then MvB would've sold out Saturday afternoon (I think ~1900 sold by EOB on Saturday), and the people planning to come Sunday couldn't have gotten one.
And if the limit was 2pp, people would still mule. Maybe fewer mules, but I doubt it would lower beyond half as many (including mule master), which is the break even point for the same number of bottles per mule master.

If an awesome brewery opened in DFW or Dallas and I didn't go to releases because it was only 1pp and a long drive, I wouldn't for the slightest moment think that brewery was saying FU to me or other out-of-towners. I'd either hope to try the beer with my Austin tasting group or trade for it so I could share with them.

 

[DrLoveMD]

Did a post get deleted on page 99?


Fair devil's advocate question.
I was confused til you clarified that you meant mules with no interest in supporting the brewery. In that case, there may still be some benefit if the mule master buys the mules pizza, or tries to get them to try a beer or wine, etc on site. But if they are just physical bodies who might as well be sleeping during their visit, the difference nearly vanishes. Until you consider 1 per person. If that person doesn't want to be there and pouts in the car the whole time, that person is still a unique visitor in line that day for beer. So it comes down to respecting the system set up by JK.
Same end result, different in terms of following JK's rules.


If you ask, maybe JK will write an apology note to you for not opening near your city.

Srsly? The incentive is going out, trying the beer, and getting the bottle. If 1 is not enough incentive for you, fine. I understand 2 would be more of an incentive, but then MvB would've sold out Saturday afternoon (I think ~1900 sold by EOB on Saturday), and the people planning to come Sunday couldn't have gotten one.
And if the limit was 2pp, people would still mule. Maybe fewer mules, but I doubt it would lower beyond half as many (including mule master), which is the break even point for the same number of bottles per mule master.

If an awesome brewery opened in DFW or Dallas and I didn't go to releases because it was only 1pp and a long drive, I wouldn't for the slightest moment think that brewery was saying FU to me or other out-of-towners. I'd either hope to try the beer with my Austin tasting group or trade for it so I could share with them.

 

[kmello69]

Did a post get deleted on page 99?


Fair devil's advocate question.
I was confused til you clarified that you meant mules with no interest in supporting the brewery. In that case, there may still be some benefit if the mule master buys the mules pizza, or tries to get them to try a beer or wine, etc on site. But if they are just physical bodies who might as well be sleeping during their visit, the difference nearly vanishes. Until you consider 1 per person. If that person doesn't want to be there and pouts in the car the whole time, that person is still a unique visitor in line that day for beer. So it comes down to respecting the system set up by JK.
Same end result, different in terms of following JK's rules.


If you ask, maybe JK will write an apology note to you for not opening near your city.

Srsly? The incentive is going out, trying the beer, and getting the bottle. If 1 is not enough incentive for you, fine. I understand 2 would be more of an incentive, but then MvB would've sold out Saturday afternoon (I think ~1900 sold by EOB on Saturday), and the people planning to come Sunday couldn't have gotten one.
And if the limit was 2pp, people would still mule. Maybe fewer mules, but I doubt it would lower beyond half as many (including mule master), which is the break even point for the same number of bottles per mule master.

If an awesome brewery opened in DFW or Dallas and I didn't go to releases because it was only 1pp and a long drive, I wouldn't for the slightest moment think that brewery was saying FU to me or other out-of-towners. I'd either hope to try the beer with my Austin tasting group or trade for it so I could share with them.

There's no place on beer boards for this type of common sense response. Please work on your trolling skillz

 

[ExPimp]

Did a post get deleted on page 99?


Fair devil's advocate question.
I was confused til you clarified that you meant mules with no interest in supporting the brewery. In that case, there may still be some benefit if the mule master buys the mules pizza, or tries to get them to try a beer or wine, etc on site. But if they are just physical bodies who might as well be sleeping during their visit


If you ask, maybe JK will write an apology note to you for not opening near your city.

Srsly? The incentive is going out, trying the beer, and getting the bottle. If 1 is not enough incentive for you, fine. I understand 2 would be more of an incentive, but then MvB would've sold out Saturday afternoon (I think ~1900 sold by EOB on Saturday), and the people planning to come Sunday couldn't have gotten one.
And if the limit was 2pp, people would still mule. Maybe fewer mules, but I doubt it would lower beyond half as many (including mule master), which is the break even point for the same number of bottles per mule master.

If an awesome brewery opened in DFW or Dallas and I didn't go to releases because it was only 1pp and a long drive, I wouldn't for the slightest moment think that brewery was saying FU to me or other out-of-towners. I'd either hope to try the beer with my Austin tasting group or trade for it so I could share with them.

I don't feel entitled to beer like so many people in this community seem to. If some crazy sour beer came out in Houston or Dallas and was a 1 bottle limit, I wouldn't think twice about staying at home on my couch over the weekend and relaxing. People caught up in this hype and hysteria of special releases just want to trade for profit or "cellar" it in their closet until they can show it off to someone. Beer is not a status symbol, you don't deserve more because you were the idiot who wasted your whole day driving for one $16 beer that will be released every single year in bigger batches from now until the brewery shuts down. Lose the ******* ego, your parents lied, you're not special.