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This... Just this...
http://jesterkingbrewery.com/blog/

Good for JK... I'm an even bigger fan (if that's even possible).
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lol this is the guy https://instagram.com/jolbae/

looks like a tool, this is yet another grade a example of why beer is x10 worse than before
Process of evolution. It's got to get worse before it gets... well it's going to get worse. At least in reference to people and lowlife ********. The beer however is for the most part IMO getting better.
 
if anyone in interested an IP trade in austin/houston for mvb or other things for lambics, stouts, or tomers... please let me know what it'd take to get you interested. ill be around austin/round rock next week, but with no car so would have to be met. easter weekend saturday i'll be back too.
 
yone in interested an IP trade in austin/houston for mvb or other things for lambics, stouts, or tomers... please let me know what it'd take to get you interested. ill be around austin/round rock next week, but with no car so would have to b


I will trade you for a car.
 
Seeing an already locked new thread on Jester King's response on the other site speaks volumes on the quality of discussion there and it's pretty hilarious how people somehow managed to miss the real issue completely. Anyway, I'm on the BPT boat, I'm a big fan of how smoothly west coast releases run and good examples include recent bottle releases at Alesmith, Lost Abbey, Modern Times. Bind someone to a ticket on a list, and that serves as a firmer deterrent to dumb behavior.
 
Seeing an already locked new thread on Jester King's response on the other site speaks volumes on the quality of discussion there and it's pretty hilarious how people somehow managed to miss the real issue completely. Anyway, I'm on the BPT boat, I'm a big fan of how smoothly west coast releases run and good examples include recent bottle releases at Alesmith, Lost Abbey, Modern Times. Bind someone to a ticket on a list, and that serves as a firmer deterrent to dumb behavior.

I think I am leaning your way Airon. I still think the best release in recent history was the MvB/CDT release where bought tickets ahead of time and had 2-3 weeks to go pick it up. Lines were quick, couldn't cheat the system, and they still made the same money if not more as people could relax and enjoy a beer. I will say as soon as they go that way you get the people complaining who didn't get a ticket that say they would have gotten a beer if it is was just released and they could have driven over, and people complaining who don't get a bottle Fri, Sat, and Sun, but there is no perfect system.
 
Increase bottle limits and then it won't give people near the incentive to cheat the system. With a release of this size, 1 per is just silly. It really says a big FU to people not from the area. There is really no incentive to travel that far to get 1 bottle. This is why people mule and hustle. Locals can get 3 bottles for far less cost by coming every day. And sadly some locals point fingers when they are just as guilty.

That said, if limits raise, I'm fine with a ticketed system for bottles as I do realize some folks will do whatever even if you increase limits.

There are a few other ways to do it besides tickets though.
 
At the risk of opening a can O' worms, I have to ask this. Is there really a 'moral' difference between rubbing ink off your hand to get back in line, and bringing mules to get extra bottles for yourself? I fail to see what makes one more acceptable than the other. No matter how you look at it, one person is ending up with more than the intended limit of 1 per person.

Please enlighten me, as I'm just trying to understand why muling appears to be considered acceptable by a majority, and the other is "cheating" the system. Why are not both 'cheating' the system?

Obviously it's different if your spouse or whatever likes the beer and drinks it/you both share bottles. Also trading is a separate action as well to me. (I did trade for extra MVB)
 
I keep thinking about the BPT route, but that would mostly limit sales to only us nerds. I think JK likes nothing better than somebody trying their beer for the first time, enjoying it, and being able to take a bottle home.
 
At the risk of opening a can O' worms, I have to ask this. Is there really a 'moral' difference between rubbing ink off your hand to get back in line, and bringing mules to get extra bottles for yourself? I fail to see what makes one more acceptable than the other. No matter how you look at it, one person is ending up with more than the intended limit of 1 per person.

Please enlighten me, as I'm just trying to understand why muling appears to be considered acceptable by a majority, and the other is "cheating" the system. Why are not both 'cheating' the system?

Obviously it's different if your spouse or whatever likes the beer and drinks it/you both share bottles. Also trading is a separate action as well to me. (I did trade for extra MVB)
Because Jester King wants you to bring your friends and family, on the chance they'll try the beer, buy merch, more bottles etc. Marking off your hand and going through the line again is clearly against the rule and their intention of marking your hand in the first place. I don't get why anyone would think it's ok or cool to go through line multiple times...no matter how you drove to get there.
 
At the risk of opening a can O' worms, I have to ask this. Is there really a 'moral' difference between rubbing ink off your hand to get back in line, and bringing mules to get extra bottles for yourself? I fail to see what makes one more acceptable than the other. No matter how you look at it, one person is ending up with more than the intended limit of 1 per person.

Please enlighten me, as I'm just trying to understand why muling appears to be considered acceptable by a majority, and the other is "cheating" the system. Why are not both 'cheating' the system?

Obviously it's different if your spouse or whatever likes the beer and drinks it/you both share bottles. Also trading is a separate action as well to me. (I did trade for extra MVB)


BA convert here(first post). Just sharing why I dont feel guilty getting multiple bottles.

I usually drive about 500 miles, round trip(that in itself is not really relevant). I bring my GF, and meet up with my sister and her friends who live in Austin. We spend the day there, eat pizza, buy samples of most everything on tap, and usually spend $2-300 on beer/cider bottles. Basically every release(back this weekend for Dicho). Multiple $thousands last year. (yay for not being on a college budget anymore... )

I end up with 5ish bottles usually. A few will go to friends who cant make it/regular traders/new trades.

The MvB/CdT release last year was was how I introduced the GF to craft beer, and shes been a huge JK fan ever since. So, its a special place for us, which is why we go to what I think(and most non-craft friends) are extreme lengths to be out there for each release. I really prefer a ticket system. Planning these weekend trips out of the blue is tough, but I love Jester King.

Im spending money on more than just sours, and converting new fans for the brewery who live in the area, and sending out bottles that I know are used in shares. My sisters boss took his family out there, after hearing her talk about her trips out. He loved it, and is going back. (Ripple effect) I dont feel guilty, and I dont feel Im doing anything JK would not approve of.

>>If we just bought bottles, and left right after, that would be a different story in my opinion.

Im sure some will flame me, but thought Id share.
 
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Because Jester King wants you to bring your friends and family, on the chance they'll try the beer, buy merch, more bottles etc. Marking off your hand and going through the line again is clearly against the rule and their intention of marking your hand in the first place. I don't get why anyone would think it's ok or cool to go through line multiple times...no matter how you drove to get there.
Ok. That doesn't answer my question though. I'm talking about bringing people that don't even drink beer or have no interest in buying beer/merch/whatever, and using them to end up with more bottles of a release than intended. How is that any better than getting back in line, when the end result is the same?
 
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Ok. That doesn't answer my question though. I'm talking about specifically bringing people that don't even drink beer or have no interest in buying beer/merch/whatever, and using them to end up with more bottles of a release than intended. How is that any better than getting back in line, when the end result is the same?


Guess that invalidates my last post :) I assume that is what many people are doing though, and the people who 'mule' are in a extreme minority. Maybe Im too optimistic.
 
Guess that invalidates my last post :) I assume that is what many people are doing though, and the people who 'mule' are in a extreme minority. Maybe Im too optimistic.
I wasn't responding to your post, and also I'm not sure how what I said invalidates your post? I've done the exact same thing as you. Not here to really chide anyone (except those guys with the 50ish bottles. F that). We're all adults here. Except Compton25. Pretty sure he's Benjamin Button

If someone chooses to get back in line or mule, whatever. I'm not going to let it ruin my day. I was too busy enjoying MVB on tap and player hatin on my Stanleys pizza (never getting the Dexter again :p)
 
Ok. That doesn't answer my question though. I'm talking about specifically bringing people that don't even drink beer or have no interest in buying beer, and using them to end up with more bottles of a release than intended. How is that any better than getting back in line?
I get where you're coming from...it's a grey area and can be construed as abuse if someone takes it too far....everybody has an idea of what's too far and a certain point where enough is enough, but who's to judge that
 
I get where you're coming from...it's a grey area and can be construed as abuse if someone takes it too far....everybody has an idea of what's too far and a certain point where enough is enough, but who's to judge that
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I think I'm getting a seizure just looking at this :confused:
 
I wasn't responding to your post, and also I'm not sure how what I said invalidates your post? I've done the exact same thing as you. Not here to really chide anyone (except those guys with the 50ish bottles. F that). We're all adults here. Except Compton25. Pretty sure he's Benjamin Button

If someone chooses to get back in line or mule, whatever. I'm not going to let it ruin my day. I was too busy enjoying MVB on tap and player hatin on my Stanleys pizza (never getting the Dexter again :p)
I finally made the trip to Pieous and it really killed Stanleys. I wasn't ever really a huge fan of Stanleys but I won't ever order any food from them again unless I'm belligerent drunk and need to soak up some alcohol.

Before someone starts talking ****. Stanleys has pretty good ingredients but they're overpriced, don't put enough toppings on the pizza, and have way too many bubbles in the dough. If I'm going to pay $15 for a 10-12 inch pie it needs to have toppings in almost every bite. They're not gourmet but in my younger days I worked/managed for gattis, papa johns, pizza inn, pizza hut, and double daves. I know the pizza basics
 
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