1.25 was the setting for all of them. I don't know how I got the math wrong, just divide the number #s of grain into the number qts of water, but hey
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1.25 was the setting for all of them. I don't know how I got the math wrong, just divide the number #s of grain into the number qts of water, but hey
This is such a massive post that even using "search this thread" yields multiple pages of results. Direct me to the right spot if this has been answered already..
How effective is a FB/hop blocker combo (center dip tube) with the following setup: keggle -> pump -> CFC -> fermenter. Assuming 12 oz pellets (no leaf or whirlpool) and no cold break (no IC) how much pellet residue would get through the FB/HB combo? I don't have plate chiller concerns, but still want to keep as much pellet residue out my fermenter as possible. Has anyone compared this to either hop stopper or Derrin's trub filter? Thanks.
How effective is a FB/hop blocker combo (center dip tube) with the following setup: keggle -> pump -> CFC -> fermenter. Assuming 12 oz pellets (no leaf or whirlpool) and no cold break (no IC) how much pellet residue would get through the FB/HB combo? I don't have plate chiller concerns, but still want to keep as much pellet residue out my fermenter as possible. Has anyone compared this to either hop stopper or Derrin's trub filter? Thanks.
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I got my FB a few weeks ago and have done 2 batches with it so far. I have been having a lot of problems with a stuck mash. I'm using a 15" hinged and the diptube sits about 1/4" off the bottom of my keg. My first batch had a few problems and I had to blow back through the tube connected to my pump to unstick the mash. For my second batch I made sure all the connections were perfect and fit super tight. But like an idiot, brewed a dunkleweisen for an upcoming competition, it got totally stuck and even by blowing back into the mash could not get it to flow. I had to dump my mash into my old cooler mash tun to finish it out.
What am I doing wrong?? I've never used a false bottom before and have a hell of a time putting it together each time, but it looks good when I get it all ready. I end up with a ton of grain below the FB after the mash as well. I'm scared to use it again and have thought about switching to the stainless braid. But I have read so many good reviews it must be something that I'm doing wrong?
Please see this:
https://www.homebrewtalk.com/f41/jaybirds-stainless-false-bottoms-146056/index32.html#post3773969
I read about that in the thread as well and I think that may be exactly what I need to do. I'll test it out and let you guys know how if that fixed my problems. Thanks for the help guys!
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Originally Posted by csamson
I got my FB a few weeks ago and have done 2 batches with it so far. I have been having a lot of problems with a stuck mash. I'm using a 15" hinged and the diptube sits about 1/4" off the bottom of my keg. My first batch had a few problems and I had to blow back through the tube connected to my pump to unstick the mash. For my second batch I made sure all the connections were perfect and fit super tight. But like an idiot, brewed a dunkleweisen for an upcoming competition, it got totally stuck and even by blowing back into the mash could not get it to flow. I had to dump my mash into my old cooler mash tun to finish it out.
What am I doing wrong?? I've never used a false bottom before and have a hell of a time putting it together each time, but it looks good when I get it all ready. I end up with a ton of grain below the FB after the mash as well. I'm scared to use it again and have thought about switching to the stainless braid. But I have read so many good reviews it must be something that I'm doing wrong?
Please see this:
https://www.homebrewtalk.com/f41/jaybirds-stainless-false-bottoms-146056/index32.html#post3773969
I read about that in the thread as well and I think that may be exactly what I need to do. I'll test it out and let you guys know how if that fixed my problems. Thanks for the help guys!
I did another brew yesterday. Vorlaufing worked. The only thing that I KNOW I did different was that I
A) Per Jay's instrux opened the valve all the way when starting draining.
B) I cracked the lid to my cooler open to equalize the air pressure between the room and the Mash tun.
These two things together allowed the mash to flow much faster at the outset, and the grainbed to settle into a nice filter. About 2 quarts of vorlauf and the wort was much clearer then either of my other two brews.
Subtle things make big differences I guess. Thanks for the tips everyone!
A) Per Jay's instrux opened the valve all the way when starting draining.
B) I cracked the lid to my cooler open to equalize the air pressure between the room and the Mash tun.
These two things together allowed the mash to flow much faster at the outset, and the grainbed to settle into a nice filter. About 2 quarts of vorlauf and the wort was much clearer then either of my other two brews.
Subtle things make big differences I guess. Thanks for the tips everyone!
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Well as you know the false bottoms are not really designed to stop pellet hops altogether. That said.
I just brewed a 10 gallon batch of IPA. It went a little something like this.
2 oz pellet @ 60 min
2 oz pellet @ 20 min
2 oz whole @ 5 min
12 oz pellet @ 5 min
2 oz bitter orange peel @ 5 min
I wish I could post more pictures here because I think you would get the drift of what a 15" false bottom can stop. I use an IC and was testing a new product. The 15" stopped about 80% of all the hops... I didn't weigh them but from what I took out of the kettle and what little was trapped in my new product I can easily say 80% and probably more like 85%. all the hops that came out of the kettle came out in the first runnings from the boil kettle, so they got there during the boil and not after the drain started.
Hope that helps.
Cheers
Jay
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It worked good but I need to make a change on screen size. I have new screen on the way from my manufacture and will get it tested again as soon as it hits the store. All in all I was impressed with the results, the function and the ease of use but the flow was a little to slow and it slowly got clogged with the 18oz of hops and 2oz of orange peel I threw at it. But I am working on it and really think its going to rock! Besides, it's making me brew, something I have not gotten to do here lately, and I will NEVER complain about that!
Cheers
Jay
SandbaggerOne
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I just received one of Jaybird's hop blockers for my brew kettle. It looks great, it fits great, and I can't wait to brew with it. I use mostly whole hops so it should work well. Thanks for the quick and painless service!
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Jaybird, if I understand you correctly you're currently perfecting the screen size on your little hop-blocker thingy that when paired together with your 15" FB will, in combination, catch almost all the pellet residue (FB=85%, HB=15%). If I'm right this will be a brewer's holy grail! Do you have any thoughts on whether a slow re-circulation at flame-out to sanitize the lines would still be possible or would it potentially block the screens? I know you're still in testing, but I'm seriously excited about this.
big_al_in_k-zoo
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Just wanted to say "thanks" for the great product! The 15" False bottom is amazing.
I previously used a 12" domed false bottom with less than good results. Very hard to re-circulate (if at all) almost always got a stuck mash/sparge. No matter what I did to fix this worked. i.e. higher water/grain ratio, larger gap on mill, rice hulls, etc.
After two uses, I wish I would have bought this way sooner. Used it today to make a 5 gallon wheat beer. 60% wheat and NO RICE HULLS and this bad boy worked like a champ.
Here's a video of me using today:
[ame]http://youtu.be/d7Jvul59Hs4[/ame]
If you are on the fence about buying this, do yourself a favor and purchase it. It's definitely worth the money and I'm glad I don't have the hassle with a 1-2 hour delay trying to fix my stuck mash/sparge!
I previously used a 12" domed false bottom with less than good results. Very hard to re-circulate (if at all) almost always got a stuck mash/sparge. No matter what I did to fix this worked. i.e. higher water/grain ratio, larger gap on mill, rice hulls, etc.
After two uses, I wish I would have bought this way sooner. Used it today to make a 5 gallon wheat beer. 60% wheat and NO RICE HULLS and this bad boy worked like a champ.
Here's a video of me using today:
[ame]http://youtu.be/d7Jvul59Hs4[/ame]
If you are on the fence about buying this, do yourself a favor and purchase it. It's definitely worth the money and I'm glad I don't have the hassle with a 1-2 hour delay trying to fix my stuck mash/sparge!
dburgette
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big_al_in_k-zoo said:
Looking good. Good choice in beers as well.
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Grzebyk26
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Jaybird,
I am going to be using a 15 gallon ss kettle and am looking to buy one of your false bottoms. My only dillema is that I am not sure if I want to use a dip tube or a bazooka filter underneath the false bottom. what would you reccomend
I am going to be using a 15 gallon ss kettle and am looking to buy one of your false bottoms. My only dillema is that I am not sure if I want to use a dip tube or a bazooka filter underneath the false bottom. what would you reccomend
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Grzebyk26
Active Member
It is for the mash tun
ThreeBrothersBrewery
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So we are going to be doing a keggle conversion shortly for a mash tun. Would the hinged 15" hinged be best? If is is what else would be a good addition, if not what's the best size?
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just the 15" hinged and a diptube is all you need if you have the ball valve and everything else. No need for a bazooka tube at all,not in a mash tun.
15" hinged is the best option. Add a handle for ease of use, getting the false bottom in and out. If you need a diptube I can custom make that for you as well.
Cheers
Jay
ThreeBrothersBrewery
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Sound like we will be placing the order on your site soon! Cheers!
Grzebyk26
Active Member
Thank you for the help I really appreciate your time
jrspru
Member
Quit thinking about it and order it! Just used my 15" Jaybird False Bottom, Direct Fired Keggle stand, and SS dip tube to do my first heat staged mash for a Wheat Beer. Protein rest at 122, Sach rest at 152 and mash out at 168, never once did it get stuck. I use a pump so that could have something to do with it, but it ran smooth and it was the cleanest wort coming out of the mash i've ever had. Vorlaufed through pump into port at top of mash tun for good 5 minutes before running into keggle, really excited for this beer.
Thanks Jaybird!!!!
Thanks Jaybird!!!!
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Heck.. You're making me excited about this beer! Do you still have my address to ship samples?
Grzebyk26
Active Member
I was wondering if you could give me you email address. I am overseas and I am unable to use the link on your website. I am trying to workout a custom false bottom. thank you for your time.
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nicadrick
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Received my FB and accessories yesterday. Excellent workmanship and fit, now it is time to get mashing!
Thanks NorCal crew!
Cheers
Thanks NorCal crew!
Cheers
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nicadrick
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Jaybird, finally got a brew done with the new FB. Wow, I saw a big increase in efficiency over my rectangular extreme cooler/copper manifold setup. Thanks for the great product and excellent service.
Cheers!
Cheers!
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Ohh heck yeah guys! Thanks for the feedback! Always good to hear!!!!!
Cheers
Jay
Cheers
Jay
