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Yeah, I've been trying to make an argument/russle jimmies on the other site about how they should close their doors until the whole thing blows over. Or at least not intentionally use misleading language on their page, describing themselves as a "safe zone". Whatever the **** that's supposed to mean.

ya the BA JWB thread is a dumpster fire
 
Yeah, I've been trying to make an argument/russle jimmies on the other site about how they should close their doors until the whole thing blows over. Or at least not intentionally use misleading language on their page, describing themselves as a "safe zone". Whatever the **** that's supposed to mean.

It's all noise falling upon deaf ears at the end of the day. If you honestly need the government (CDC) to determine the level of safety a place may have, then more power to you. Going outside is dangerous. Procreating is dangerous. No one denies it. A business whose interest is to make as much money as possible certainly isn't going to do so. Many of the other major players seem not to, why should JWB?

Making an argument that only beats the proverbial dead horse does nothing. It does stoke the indignant egos of those that have been wronged in the past. Ultimately however, it's like arguing with the wind as to why it decides to blow.
 
Yeah I might be able to I guess. PM me i guess.

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Wakefield is apparently releasing a beer over Labor Day weekend called "Blanc de Blancs", which is a name already used for a Side Project beer. This was pointed out on the Wakefield event Facebook page:



For those without Farcebook:

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If this isn't 100% representative of Miami mentality, I don't know what is
 
Wakefield is apparently releasing a beer over Labor Day weekend called "Blanc de Blancs", which is a name already used for a Side Project beer. This was pointed out on the Wakefield event Facebook page:



For those without Farcebook:

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Cory's response just made my day.

I love the legal logic in the post. Alex Gutierrez is well versed in maritime law.

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Apparently JW's wife finally felt it necessary to speak out on behalf of the family on Facebook.....

Natalie Wakefield Ordinarily I would not submit to responding to these rants because I know it's just that. Someone letting out there agrivation But I can not tolorate someone speaking such lies about my husband.
First, I don't believe any OG who complained understands what it's like to try to open a business. Let a lone a new brewery in a city where breweries are new and all the red tape involved. Could he have had better communication, yes. Did he apologize for that yes!
I love seeing how people think that the OG's opened the brewery. Folks do u have any idea how much it costs to open a brewery?
We are and will always be humbled, honored and appreciate everyone's donation it withought question helped. But please don't tell me you did not get your money's worth. And if your upset about not having the OG Society again, the reason for that is because of people like you who could not see the struggles we had and tried to make the best of it rather than being a group of haters that made our lives very difficult with never being happy and nothing being enough.
I am truly sorry you feel the way you do and if you were to actually come to the brewery or to any of our events or releases you would see that He is still very much the man he has always been, humble caring and trying to make the best beer he can bringing the craft beer community together. You all just need to stop hating.
May God bless you and I'm sorry you were so upset!
Natalie
 
Apparently JW's wife finally felt it necessary to speak out on behalf of the family on Facebook.....

Natalie Wakefield Ordinarily I would not submit to responding to these rants because I know it's just that. Someone letting out there agrivation But I can not tolorate someone speaking such lies about my husband.
First, I don't believe any OG who complained understands what it's like to try to open a business. Let a lone a new brewery in a city where breweries are new and all the red tape involved. Could he have had better communication, yes. Did he apologize for that yes!
I love seeing how people think that the OG's opened the brewery. Folks do u have any idea how much it costs to open a brewery?
We are and will always be humbled, honored and appreciate everyone's donation it withought question helped. But please don't tell me you did not get your money's worth. And if your upset about not having the OG Society again, the reason for that is because of people like you who could not see the struggles we had and tried to make the best of it rather than being a group of haters that made our lives very difficult with never being happy and nothing being enough.
I am truly sorry you feel the way you do and if you were to actually come to the brewery or to any of our events or releases you would see that He is still very much the man he has always been, humble caring and trying to make the best beer he can bringing the craft beer community together. You all just need to stop hating.
May God bless you and I'm sorry you were so upset!
Natalie

"We are humbled by your donations, but **** you for having reasonable expectations."
 
Apparently JW's wife finally felt it necessary to speak out on behalf of the family on Facebook.....

Natalie Wakefield Ordinarily I would not submit to responding to these rants because I know it's just that. Someone letting out there agrivation But I can not tolorate someone speaking such lies about my husband.
First, I don't believe any OG who complained understands what it's like to try to open a business. Let a lone a new brewery in a city where breweries are new and all the red tape involved. Could he have had better communication, yes. Did he apologize for that yes!
I love seeing how people think that the OG's opened the brewery. Folks do u have any idea how much it costs to open a brewery?
We are and will always be humbled, honored and appreciate everyone's donation it withought question helped. But please don't tell me you did not get your money's worth. And if your upset about not having the OG Society again, the reason for that is because of people like you who could not see the struggles we had and tried to make the best of it rather than being a group of haters that made our lives very difficult with never being happy and nothing being enough.
I am truly sorry you feel the way you do and if you were to actually come to the brewery or to any of our events or releases you would see that He is still very much the man he has always been, humble caring and trying to make the best beer he can bringing the craft beer community together. You all just need to stop hating.
May God bless you and I'm sorry you were so upset!
Natalie

This was in response to my review from seven months ago. I'm not convinced she actually read my review.
 
Apparently JW's wife finally felt it necessary to speak out on behalf of the family on Facebook.....

Natalie Wakefield Ordinarily I would not submit to responding to these rants because I know it's just that. Someone letting out there agrivation But I can not tolorate someone speaking such lies about my husband.
First, I don't believe any OG who complained understands what it's like to try to open a business. Let a lone a new brewery in a city where breweries are new and all the red tape involved. Could he have had better communication, yes. Did he apologize for that yes!
I love seeing how people think that the OG's opened the brewery. Folks do u have any idea how much it costs to open a brewery?
We are and will always be humbled, honored and appreciate everyone's donation it withought question helped. But please don't tell me you did not get your money's worth. And if your upset about not having the OG Society again, the reason for that is because of people like you who could not see the struggles we had and tried to make the best of it rather than being a group of haters that made our lives very difficult with never being happy and nothing being enough.
I am truly sorry you feel the way you do and if you were to actually come to the brewery or to any of our events or releases you would see that He is still very much the man he has always been, humble caring and trying to make the best beer he can bringing the craft beer community together. You all just need to stop hating.
May God bless you and I'm sorry you were so upset!
Natalie
This is awesome. "We are thankful for your financial support, but it really was insignificant. We really truly care, so stop hatin', haterz."
 
Apparently JW's wife finally felt it necessary to speak out on behalf of the family on Facebook.....

Natalie Wakefield Ordinarily I would not submit to responding to these rants because I know it's just that. Someone letting out there agrivation But I can not tolorate someone speaking such lies about my husband.
First, I don't believe any OG who complained understands what it's like to try to open a business. Let a lone a new brewery in a city where breweries are new and all the red tape involved. Could he have had better communication, yes. Did he apologize for that yes!
I love seeing how people think that the OG's opened the brewery. Folks do u have any idea how much it costs to open a brewery?
We are and will always be humbled, honored and appreciate everyone's donation it withought question helped. But please don't tell me you did not get your money's worth. And if your upset about not having the OG Society again, the reason for that is because of people like you who could not see the struggles we had and tried to make the best of it rather than being a group of haters that made our lives very difficult with never being happy and nothing being enough.
I am truly sorry you feel the way you do and if you were to actually come to the brewery or to any of our events or releases you would see that He is still very much the man he has always been, humble caring and trying to make the best beer he can bringing the craft beer community together. You all just need to stop hating.
May God bless you and I'm sorry you were so upset!
Natalie

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I can't imagine what she hopes to accomplish with this. I have seen quite a few people change their view of the brewery in the past months, letting go of their issues with the OG club and appreciating the beer. This does nothing but open up old wounds. Luckily the beer is far better than the PR.
 
I can't imagine what she hopes to accomplish with this. I have seen quite a few people change their view of the brewery in the past months, letting go of their issues with the OG club and appreciating the beer. This does nothing but open up old wounds. Luckily the beer is far better than the PR.

open a bottle of Not Even French 2.0
 
Apparently JW's wife finally felt it necessary to speak out on behalf of the family on Facebook.....

Natalie Wakefield Ordinarily I would not submit to responding to these rants because I know it's just that. Someone letting out there agrivation But I can not tolorate someone speaking such lies about my husband.
First, I don't believe any OG who complained understands what it's like to try to open a business. Let a lone a new brewery in a city where breweries are new and all the red tape involved. Could he have had better communication, yes. Did he apologize for that yes!
I love seeing how people think that the OG's opened the brewery. Folks do u have any idea how much it costs to open a brewery?
We are and will always be humbled, honored and appreciate everyone's donation it withought question helped. But please don't tell me you did not get your money's worth. And if your upset about not having the OG Society again, the reason for that is because of people like you who could not see the struggles we had and tried to make the best of it rather than being a group of haters that made our lives very difficult with never being happy and nothing being enough.
I am truly sorry you feel the way you do and if you were to actually come to the brewery or to any of our events or releases you would see that He is still very much the man he has always been, humble caring and trying to make the best beer he can bringing the craft beer community together. You all just need to stop hating.
May God bless you and I'm sorry you were so upset!
Natalie

This is ******* awesome because she manages to weave together true facts and legitimate points with a bunch of non-sequiturs and complete ********. I can't recall a better example of someone repeatedly making a good point and then immediately undermining it.
 
It's gifts like these that made me create this thread once the glorious OG thread had run its course.

And I think some people still haven't seen the extra little tribute in the OP.

JW is also world renowned infectious disease specialist!

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Is there anything this man cannot do?

Wakefield is apparently releasing a beer over Labor Day weekend called "Blanc de Blancs", which is a name already used for a Side Project beer. This was pointed out on the Wakefield event Facebook page:



For those without Farcebook:

4900297779970048.png


Apparently JW's wife finally felt it necessary to speak out on behalf of the family on Facebook.....

Natalie Wakefield Ordinarily I would not submit to responding to these rants because I know it's just that. Someone letting out there agrivation But I can not tolorate someone speaking such lies about my husband.
First, I don't believe any OG who complained understands what it's like to try to open a business. Let a lone a new brewery in a city where breweries are new and all the red tape involved. Could he have had better communication, yes. Did he apologize for that yes!
I love seeing how people think that the OG's opened the brewery. Folks do u have any idea how much it costs to open a brewery?
We are and will always be humbled, honored and appreciate everyone's donation it withought question helped. But please don't tell me you did not get your money's worth. And if your upset about not having the OG Society again, the reason for that is because of people like you who could not see the struggles we had and tried to make the best of it rather than being a group of haters that made our lives very difficult with never being happy and nothing being enough.
I am truly sorry you feel the way you do and if you were to actually come to the brewery or to any of our events or releases you would see that He is still very much the man he has always been, humble caring and trying to make the best beer he can bringing the craft beer community together. You all just need to stop hating.
May God bless you and I'm sorry you were so upset!
Natalie

May God Bless J Wakefield's Dysfunction.
 
Apparently JW's wife finally felt it necessary to speak out on behalf of the family on Facebook.....

Natalie Wakefield Ordinarily I would not submit to responding to these rants because I know it's just that. Someone letting out there agrivation But I can not tolorate someone speaking such lies about my husband.
First, I don't believe any OG who complained understands what it's like to try to open a business. Let a lone a new brewery in a city where breweries are new and all the red tape involved. Could he have had better communication, yes. Did he apologize for that yes!
I love seeing how people think that the OG's opened the brewery. Folks do u have any idea how much it costs to open a brewery?
We are and will always be humbled, honored and appreciate everyone's donation it withought question helped. But please don't tell me you did not get your money's worth. And if your upset about not having the OG Society again, the reason for that is because of people like you who could not see the struggles we had and tried to make the best of it rather than being a group of haters that made our lives very difficult with never being happy and nothing being enough.
I am truly sorry you feel the way you do and if you were to actually come to the brewery or to any of our events or releases you would see that He is still very much the man he has always been, humble caring and trying to make the best beer he can bringing the craft beer community together. You all just need to stop hating.
May God bless you and I'm sorry you were so upset!
Natalie

What provoked that response? It must've been something that hit a nerve. I didn't see anything but I know they have a habit of deleting comments they don't like.
 
She responded to Lansman's review, which seemed pretty fair. Not sure if this link will work.
https://www.facebook.com/kevin.lansing.16/posts/10100944758707802:0

Thanks. I read it. I just don't understand how anyone can call him humble. For a guy who takes great joy in the collection of C&D letters he's received from other breweries, you can call him anything you want except humble. Also, a humble brewer wouldn't smear his face on the labels of so many of the brews he makes. Humility makes the beer the star of the show, not the brewer.
 
Apparently JW's wife finally felt it necessary to speak out on behalf of the family on Facebook.....

Natalie Wakefield Ordinarily I would not submit to responding to these rants because I know it's just that. Someone letting out there agrivation But I can not tolorate someone speaking such lies about my husband.
First, I don't believe any OG who complained understands what it's like to try to open a business. Let a lone a new brewery in a city where breweries are new and all the red tape involved. Could he have had better communication, yes. Did he apologize for that yes!
I love seeing how people think that the OG's opened the brewery. Folks do u have any idea how much it costs to open a brewery?
We are and will always be humbled, honored and appreciate everyone's donation it withought question helped. But please don't tell me you did not get your money's worth. And if your upset about not having the OG Society again, the reason for that is because of people like you who could not see the struggles we had and tried to make the best of it rather than being a group of haters that made our lives very difficult with never being happy and nothing being enough.
I am truly sorry you feel the way you do and if you were to actually come to the brewery or to any of our events or releases you would see that He is still very much the man he has always been, humble caring and trying to make the best beer he can bringing the craft beer community together. You all just need to stop hating.
May God bless you and I'm sorry you were so upset!
Natalie

No way this chick tried any of the OG beers. Think we've drainpoured 3 now.
 
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