Is One Step by Logic a cleaner or sanitizer

[huskie26]

I will be making my first brew this weekend and am planning on using One Step to sanitize.

The package of One Step I am planning to use is about 15 years old - never been opened. Does anyone know if this stuff breaks down over time or should I feel confident in using it?

Since my LHBS is a distance away - it's either gonna be this or bleach me thinks.

 

[maffewl]

I will be making my first brew this weekend and am planning on using One Step to sanitize.

The package of One Step I am planning to use is about 15 years old - never been opened. Does anyone know if this stuff breaks down over time or should I feel confident in using it?

Since my LHBS is a distance away - it's either gonna be this or bleach me thinks.

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https://www.homebrewtalk.com/f39/idophor-225490/

 

[theredben]

Just to add one more voice supporting the use of one-step. Hydrogen Peroxide works fantastically as a disinfectant, just for long. Any little bit of dirt, and the effectiveness is basically gone. Used to use One-Step, but have now switched to Star-San for reusability.

 

[alaskana]

I use both One-Step and Star-San. One-Step for cleaning the hard to reach dried out gunk in my carboy and other equipment (I don't clean it the night of brewing because I'm usually too exhausted afterwards). Then on brew day (which may be weeks or months later) I sanitize any equipment that comes into contact with the cooled wort with about 5 gallons of a Star-San/water solution in an old cooler. Haven't had an infected batch yet although I'm only on batch #6.

 

[idahobrew]

I have used One Step on my first 7 batches so far without a problem. MLBS says it's the best sanitizer. I read somewhere that One Step is not labeled as a sanatizer as they would have to pay (whoever regulates these things) big bucks to have it labeled as a sanatizer. I just purchased some Star San as that seems to be the sanatizer of choice here at the forum. I like the idea that I can use Star San with distilled water and have it last for quite some time. I will probably use both as I still have some One Step left but nothing bad to say about One Step as it has worked well for me.

 

[mpcluever]

However StarSan is not recommended for soft metals or plastics, and you should wear gloves when using it, it is acidic.Gedvondur

StarSan is fine for plastics. It comes in concentrated form in a plastic container. I've read and heard multiple interviews with the guys from 5 Star and they say over and over it's fine for plastics.

That being said, I'm no chemist.

 

[iambeer]

Ummm....I hate to be a jerk about this but.......Hydrogen Peroxide certainly does act as an anti-bacteriological agent. It is a sanitizer.


From Wikipedia:

"Hydrogen peroxide is GRAS (Generally Recognised As Safe) as an antimicrobial agent, an oxidizing agent and more by the US Food and Drug Administration.[8] Hydrogen peroxide can also be used as a toothpaste when mixed with correct quantities of baking soda and salt.[9] Like benzoyl peroxide, hydrogen peroxide is also sometimes used in the treatment of acne."



You are simply wrong about One-Step. It is a sanitizer, as it releases hydrogen peroxide and soda ash and acts as a sanitizer. I'm not sure where the logic of claiming it isn't is coming from.



Gedvondur

No one responded to this. Obviously it's true that hydrogen peroxide is a powerful disinfectant, but is there enough of a % to kill bacteria? typical home use hydrogen peroxide is 3% and it is very powerful.

I am new to homebrewing. I use one step to sanitize (not to clean) by soaking. I feel it is very easy on plastics and rubber parts. I also use 70% to 90% alcohol for spot cleaning.

Star San seems to be really popular. It's one of those things all the homebrewers buy.

I love to be corrected, please don't be shy! I am not one to steer away from the pack, but I'm still not sure if I will be comforted by using Star San like everyone else.

 

[bdjohns1]

No one responded to this. Obviously it's true that hydrogen peroxide is a powerful disinfectant, but is there enough of a % to kill bacteria? typical home use hydrogen peroxide is 3% and it is very powerful.

For what it's worth, I use a contact lens solution that contains 3% hydrogen peroxide as the disinfectant. It comes with a case that has some kind of catalyst in in, so that by the time I wake up in the morning, the case is just normal saline.

So far, I haven't seen anything funny growing in my eyes...

 

[TimpanogosSlim]

IMHO one-step and other percarbonate based cleaners (including PBW and oxi-clean) do effectively sanitize if used properly, but i admit that i have joined the church of star-san for sake of peace of mind.

I figure if you clean all the gunk off of your gear, and use it immediately thereafter (rinsing twice if you are using PBW or oxi-clean), you are unlikely to get an infection unless you are using a badly scratched ale pail or something - which is not going to get effectively sanitized by star-san either.

But CIP no-rinse sanitizing with an agent that breaks down into yeast nutrient (vs. sodium carbonate which can slow fermentation) just makes sense.

 

[AnimalHouseBrewery]

IMHO one-step and other percarbonate based cleaners (including PBW and oxi-clean) do effectively sanitize if used properly, but i admit that i have joined the church of star-san for sake of peace of mind.

I figure if you clean all the gunk off of your gear, and use it immediately thereafter (rinsing twice if you are using PBW or oxi-clean), you are unlikely to get an infection unless you are using a badly scratched ale pail or something - which is not going to get effectively sanitized by star-san either.

But CIP no-rinse sanitizing with an agent that breaks down into yeast nutrient (vs. sodium carbonate which can slow fermentation) just makes sense.

Which no-rinse sanitizer breaks down into a yeast nutrient?

Sorry to resurrect this old post, but it is better than starting a new thread right?

 

[Revvy]

Which no-rinse sanitizer breaks down into a yeast nutrient?

Sorry to resurrect this old post, but it is better than starting a new thread right?

The answer is in this thread.....

 

[Crazyspicychef]

I use One Step for cleaning and Star San for Sanitizing.
I've been brewing for 30 years.
That said, I have in the past only used One Step because I was out of Star San with no I'll effects.
I just made sure all visible debris is removed before soaking in 1 Step.
For the dollar or so, it's worth the extra step to make sure everything is sanitized properly and use a proper sanitizer, ESPECIALLY if brewing any kind of sour!
In the past I used the Iodine solution with great results, but it stains everything it comes in contact with besides metal and glass.