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Tastes like oregano
 
We had Sante 12, 14, 15, 17, and 18 together recently and 15 was by far the best, followed by 14 with no close third. I at least thought 18 was the least good of the bunch (though 17 was only marginally better, neither very enjoyable). But 18 was very young then and will probably be getting better with time.

I guess I should have elaborated more. Its been a year or more since ive lined up a couple Santes for a side by side tasting. Heck, it might have been a year i bet since ive had any of these. My opinion is based off drinking each of them fresh or with a year after release so im sure they are different now.

12 has always been a strange bird. curry?
13 has eluded me and i will do just about anything for...
14 im drawing a blank on but think thats because its mild in character from what i recall
15 has always been a standout to me because it was like the tome version of a berliner.
16 was the start of the over-hopping and bitterness/phenolics (last bottle i drank was in a real good place though much more in line with my tastes) but it also has a clean and typical out of the box saison yeastiness without classic tome funk
17 was a strange ginger beer that i didnt care for
18 was very fruity/tart almost like cranberry meets dark currant

Speaking of Santes... t-minus 3 months until #19!!!!

I have a bottle of Dalmatienne on deck for tonight. Will report back with findings. Also planning on culturing the bottle dregs for future homebrew science experiment.
 
So new Hiver is basically the dark version of Fleur de Bomal? That gives me mixed feels....
I loved every bottle of the 2014 or 2015 (whatever it is) Hiver that I've had. Drank 3 or 4 of them and didn't pick up any oregano.
 
13 has eluded me and i will do just about anything for...
13 was nice fresh, similar to 14, but more malty, nothing crazy about it, just more caramel malt flavor than most Fantome beers. I got another bottle off Etre last year or so and it was really oxidized.
 
Was not a fan of the new light label dalmatienne I opened on friday.

Very clean and typical saison yeastiness (clove/banana) hidden underneath an assault of menthol.
 
Was not a fan of the new light label dalmatienne I opened on friday.

Very clean and typical saison yeastiness (clove/banana) hidden underneath an assault of menthol.

In the bottle I had, I didn't pull any underlying notes from beneath the assault of what I thought to be juniper. It was a bitter, medicinal mess.
 
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From what I can make out:
"made with pleaure and good ideas with Andre Junqueira from Brazil."

"3 grains, nugget hops, brazil spices, jambu, cubeb, tonka."


because I had to look it up:
jambu - watercress that cures toothache
cubeb - pepper with warming property used as a paste on genitals to intensify sexual pleasure
tonka - pea similar to sweet woodruff used as a vanilla substitute
 
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From what I can make out:
"made with pleaure and good ideas with Andre Junqueira from Brazil."

"3 grains, nugget hops, brazil spices, jambu, cubeb, tonka."


because I had to look it up:
jambu - watercress that cures toothache
cubeb - pepper with warming property used as a paste on genitals to intensify sexual pleasure
tonka - pea similar to sweet woodruff used as a vanilla substitute
IN
 
B38B2AC1-DA98-49D5-AE4C-C1A98A7FE194.jpg


From what I can make out:
"made with pleaure and good ideas with Andre Junqueira from Brazil."

"3 grains, nugget hops, brazil spices, jambu, cubeb, tonka."


because I had to look it up:
jambu - watercress that cures toothache
cubeb - pepper with warming property used as a paste on genitals to intensify sexual pleasure
tonka - pea similar to sweet woodruff used as a vanilla substitute
Hopefully cubeb is safe to brew with
















































and keeps all of those properties after fermentation.
 
Shop by me got some saison in. How is this batch? I only bought one because I can't be buying more than one of a Fantome before trying that batch.
 
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From what I can make out:
"made with pleaure and good ideas with Andre Junqueira from Brazil."

"3 grains, nugget hops, brazil spices, jambu, cubeb, tonka."


because I had to look it up:
jambu - watercress that cures toothache
cubeb - pepper with warming property used as a paste on genitals to intensify sexual pleasure
tonka - pea similar to sweet woodruff used as a vanilla substitute
..in etregourmet shop next week .. and in Brasil next month ... get a look to Andre SilvaFBook profile or Best Beer importators in Brasil ..
 
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