Is beer killing our planet?

[KCBrewer]

Unfortunately, NASA was at the heart of the global warming scandal, so I don't know how much of what they report on it would still be considered credible.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/21/science/earth/21climate.html


And I have enough plants in my house that my co2 tanks could explode and I'd never know, so I don't worry about the co2 from my beer hurting anything.

 

[MetallHed]

Right, I think my sig sums it up nicely.

True.

Being healthy just means you die slower.

It's really gonna piss health nuts off when they're in the hospital dying of nothing.

 

[mattd2]

Another trip down memory lane...remember the "hole in the ozone layer"? Ya ever hear ANYTHING about it anymore? No? Do you know why? Because the hole closed itself up.

WTF, I got some serious sunburn last summer that would prove you wrong. You in USA don't hear anything about it because it is not sitting over you country, just over us burning the bejesus out of us. Summers here are much worse for UV than I remember them being as a kid..... and I'm only 25!

 

[SPLASTiK]

Actually the earth has been getting cooler for that last few years, that's why they changed the name from "Global Warming" to "Climate Chage" god forbid thay could admit they were wrong, just change your story to fit the facts.

It's been called Climate Change for decades, there hasn't been any name change... They're also two very different but related terms.

 

[Zamial]

... I got some serious sunburn last summer that would prove you wrong... Summers here are much worse for UV than I remember them being as a kid..... and I'm only 25!

I am not a scientist or a environmentalist but I MAY be able to explain this phenomenon.

Solar flares and lots of them. We are actually entering a cycle of massive solar flare activity over the next 10-15 years. Is this a possible cause? maybe...

A more realistic cause of sunburn later in life..? For this I can only speak from personal experience but from what I know, I used to tan to a dark golden "deep tan" when I was young because I was most ALWAYS outside playing or doing chores. We even had "recess" to go outside during the day at school.

I look at life now and I FEAR the Sun. It burns me like a side of bacon on a flat top stove. I am pasty white from years of computer gaming, lack of being outside more than inside coupled with schooling, working 3rd shifts (thankfully I am not on 3rd shifts anymore!) and living in the north where long winters also hide the sun from me. On the beach I am the "florescent light bulb" guy. I no longer have a tolerance to the sun at all. SPF 60 or better is my staple for any outdoor activity.

I blame the above on ME not chemicals, pollutants, or other problems. It is always easier to blame some invisible problem than to own up to it yourself, that is human nature.

At any rate, beer is not killing the planet, maybe my liver but not the planet.

 

[jonbomb]

Technically we are the demise of this so called "global warming". Our boddies produce methane... We fart out mathane gas....

Everything we do destroys our planet apparently...we might as well just stop doing everything we enjoy.

 

[3 Dog Brew]

Wading in carefully here:

Having been on a factory tour at the Budweiser facility in Houston, I know they recapture CO2 from fermentation to make Carbonated Water that they then use to dilute the 6% beer they manufacture to 3% beer they distribute. (Their 6% beer has a Pilsner Urquell flavor and technically is a challenge to reproduce). Michelob is the only "all-grain" beer that they made at the time, most others use rice and corn adjuncts.

I don't dispute climate change, I dispute the "man-made" aspect of climate change. If you disagree with that dispute, then answer me one question. If we are responsible for an increase in temperature from the 1900's to the 1990's of ~2 degrees F or whatever it is, why has the same increase been recorded on Mars and Jupiter? Are we affecting those environments as well? It is my opinion that our sun has changed our climate. It has done so in the past, why would we not think it would do so in the future?

 

[Cpt_Kirks]

What p!sses me off about the whole "Climate Change / Global Warming" issue is the arrogant way the proponents attempt to belittle those who ask questions.

This is not a straight forward topic. The "case closed" crowd have their heads in the sand as much as the debunkers.

The topic is not settled. Attempting to radically change the entire world, "just because we say so" is not going to work. Ignoring temperature outliers in the data simply makes them look dishonest.

Is the planet warming up? Maybe.

Is mankind the sole source? Doubtful.

Should we be concerned? Probably.

Should we go live in a cave and eat roots? No.

 

[Pharkan]

You would think breweries could capture said CO2, pressurize it and use it for carbonation.

About fifteen years ago on a tour at Tuborgs now defunct brewery in Copenhagen I was told that they indeed did use the CO2 from fermentation to carbonate sodapops (in this case Coca Cola produced on license, I believe). Probably the same at other breweries with carbonated drinks-production.

 

[joety]

What p!sses me off about the whole "Climate Change / Global Warming" issue is the arrogant way the proponents attempt to belittle those who ask questions.

This is not a straight forward topic. The "case closed" crowd have their heads in the sand as much as the debunkers.

The topic is not settled. Attempting to radically change the entire world, "just because we say so" is not going to work. Ignoring temperature outliers in the data simply makes them look dishonest.

Is the planet warming up? Maybe.

Is mankind the sole source? Doubtful.

Should we be concerned? Probably.

Should we go live in a cave and eat roots? No.

Well said.

 

[olllllo]

This isn't the forum for this type of discussion.