IIPA Recipe Help-Hopback?

[Stovetop535]

My brother in law bought me a Blichmann Hop Rocket for Christmas that I would like to put to good use. The last couple self created recipes have not been the best, so I am turning here to look for guidance.

I was leaning towards a simple grain bill, possibly just 2 row and C60 and cara pils since I have a ton of it. Maybe some vienna? Malts I have on hand:
2 Row
MO
Pils
Vienna
Lt Munich
Rye
Honey
Chocolate
Roasted Barley
White Wheat
Crystal 60

The hops and hop schedule is what I am really struggling with. I brew mostly wheats, hefes and the occasional porter, so nothing with an extensive hop schedule.

These are the following hops I have on hand-pellet form,:
Golding (1 lb)
magnum (fresh, 1 lb),
nelson sauv. (4 ounces)
falconers flight (4 ounces)

Golding, nelson and falconers are about 1 -1.5 years old but still in the factory sealed wrapping. They have been stored in the freezer.

And whole hops, all or fresh from last weeks order from hops direct, 1 lb of everything:
Crystal
Hallertau
Hersbucker
Belma
Northern Brewer
Fuggle
Challenger

I usually run straight from the bk to the carboy via my plate chiller (single pass). The hop rocket can hold up to 3 ounces of whole hops.

Thanks
Alex

 

[Powhatan]

Have you considered doing a Smash IPA?

 

[Stovetop535]

I thought about that, but I usually reserve my smash recipes for 1 gallon test batches, just incase I dont like them. Push comes to shove, that is an option.

 

[Stovetop535]

Leaning towards the following grain bill

18 lbs 2 row
1 lb Crystal 60
6 oz cara pils
1 lb sugar

For my equipment that puts me at 1.083 sg. Is a full lb too much crystal? Do I have any good hop pairings with that is listed? I really struggle with hop pairings.

 

[atom]

Leaning towards the following grain bill

18 lbs 2 row
1 lb Crystal 60
6 oz cara pils
1 lb sugar

For my equipment that puts me at 1.083 sg. Is a full lb too much crystal? Do I have any good hop pairings with that is listed? I really struggle with hop pairings.

i'd drop the crystal or at least cut it in half. what quantity of hops do you have?

 

[bobbrews]

If you listed the amounts of each ingredient in an easy to read format, then more people could help vs. shooting everything out in paragraph format with no quantities.

That is a lot of ingredients. Are they fresh or quite old? What yeast are you using and what style of beer would you like to brew? I would assume a beer with a decent level of hop presence given that you want to use a hopback and since you have about a dozen different hop varieties on hand. IPA, APA, hoppy amber?

 

[Stovetop535]

I just received my bulk order, everything listed in my first post I have a full pound of.

 

[atom]

bitter with magnum
late (15-0 min) NB/Belma
hopback with Crystal
dry hop with FF/Nelson

there are 50 other combos that'll work too.

 

[Stovetop535]

Thanks. I'll run a few combos through beersmith and see how it looks.

A few other simple iipa recipes I looked at listed 95% 2 row and 5% crystal for grist percentages. That's is where the lb of c60 came from.

 

[Redhawk96]

A 0.5 lb. of honey malt is a great addition to any IPA.

 

[Yooper]

Leaning towards the following grain bill

18 lbs 2 row
1 lb Crystal 60
6 oz cara pils
1 lb sugar

For my equipment that puts me at 1.083 sg. Is a full lb too much crystal? Do I have any good hop pairings with that is listed? I really struggle with hop pairings.

I don't think you have a good combo of hops for a hoppy IIPA. You can bitter with magnum, but I'd prefer an IIPA to have some typical US citrusy/piney/floral hops. I think the traditional "C" hops are good for this, as well as some newer hops like simcoe and amarillo.

 

[Stovetop535]

If you listed the amounts of each ingredient in an easy to read format, then more people could help vs. shooting everything out in paragraph format with no quantities.

That is a lot of ingredients. Are they fresh or quite old? What yeast are you using and what style of beer would you like to brew? I would assume a beer with a decent level of hop presence given that you want to use a hopback and since you have about a dozen different hop varieties on hand. IPA, APA, hoppy amber?

Sorry for the format, thats what I get for posting from my phone. Original post is edited, should be easier to read.

As for the style, I really just want to try out the hopback. The whole hops are from a recent order, some of the pelles are 1.5 years old. Malts are all stored in buckets with gamma lids, so they should be good to go.

I was leaning towards an ipa/iipa if I have the ingredients to support the style, if not no big deal.