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dantheman13

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I was picking up a bottle of Dogfish Head 120 at my local good beer store, who also sells good wine. They have a serving license, and do beer tastings on Wednesdays and wine tastings on Thursdays. This was a Thursday...

I knew the distributor (he also distributes good beer like Maui, Jolly Pumpkin, and Mikkeller), so I decided to stay for a bit and try some wine, and have a glass of Unibroue Cassis, since it's such a wonderful and light abv beer. Bad idea. Not the wine part, but ordering the beer. I had several wine drinkers make comments like, "You come to a wine tasting and you order beer?" and "I've been around the world and have tried beer, and it is just not good."

The best comment was a guy sitting at the bar. He was well dressed, tall, handsome, obviously successful. Somewhat of a loud mouth and a bully perhaps. I guess he and one of the employees have had arguments over beer in the past, and this guy overheard me talking to said employee about beer. He suddenly erupted, "Beer is disgusting!" He went on with some drivel about how beer smells and tastes like body odor. The guy obviously had no problem blathering about his opinion of beer. The store employee smiled and said, "Here try this [Unibroue Cassis]," and poured this stuffy prick a sample. He told the guy, "It is part of the cause to change your mind, just try it." The guy and his girlfriend had a smell. She seemed to like the aroma on the beer (this is a very fruity smelling beer), and was quite surprised by the taste. He took a sip and proclaimed, "Is this beer? This isn't cider?" Apparently, the girlfriend wasn't allowed to disagree with this dude, so she stayed quiet.

So, I finally chimed in. I said, "I like this beer; it is made with real fruit, not extract." Our wine drinking friend retorted something to the effect that fruity beers are effeminate. So, I said, "You drink wine, what is the difference?" Apparently the guy thought that the beer was made, and then some fruit was added to back sweeten it... which made no sense because one of the wines being served was sweeter than Unibroue Cassis. I informed him that no, the fruit was fermented as well. Apparently I broke some weird preconception this guy had about fruit in beer, so he awkwardly turned his back and ignored me, which was fine by me because I started to get a little aggravated by the guy's stubborn, misguided opinions and his lack of interest to be educated.

How do you deal with snooty, ignorant wine drinkers? I understand that beer isn't for everyone. However, some wine drinkers are just really, really opinionated about it. Some of these opinions are really off-based. I don't like tea, but I don't go into a cafe and loudly proclaim that tea is disgusting. So, how do you deal with this? I got pissed off about it, really. I am pretty passionate about beer, and I at least want people to get the facts straight, even if they can't appreciate beer.
 
Sounds like a *********. Wine drinker, beer drinker...if you act like that, chances are I'm ignoring you. Why waste your breath on a philistine?
 
I actually don't care what their interest is, I don't like people who offer unsolicited opinions/conversation. I just give them a weird look and ignore them, maybe a laugh if I am willing to fight that day. I never engage in conversation with people who try to speak to me when I don't want them to. It caused an uncomfortable situation at the mall just recently when a woman tried to talk to my daughter as I pushed the stroller...
 
F em. If people like that were that into beer it would cost that much more :p

You get your snobs in all areas of life. They feel a need to position themselves at a point they feel is superior, to feed their fragile egos. You cannot reason with these people just like you can't reason with a complete idiot...just for different reasons. No point in trying, they are the same who troll message boards getting their kicks passing their personal misery onto others. Don't let them frustrate you, or you grant them power over you that they do not deserve. You were right to try and educate the poor SOB, but if he choses to be ignorant then don't sweat it. I feel sorry for him, and moreso for his lady-friend.
 
The guy was just trying to impress his girlfriend...he's SOOOOO cool.....SOOO sophisticated...world class traveller... :rolleyes:
 
Tell him to stop spitting ignorant dribble about a subject he knows nothing about and to go back to drinking his wine that he rates solely by the $ he paid for it because he's obviously to stuck up on status markers to enjoy something for what it truly is/can be. Then a giant cockpunch followed by walking out with his girlfriend.


*sorry, got a little carried away, you can leave his girlfriend. She's probably a ditz if she's with him anyway*
 
it wasn't the wine drinker part of the person that was a d0uCh3, it was the whole person.
it's a shame, *I* do like a good glass of wine, but i don't scorn the crap ones .... to those, i just add o.j.
 
Yeah, I get what everyone means by ignoring the guy. I am used to the really social, open minded crowd of beer geeks that go to this store on Wednesday nights. We are beer snobs, yes, but a different kind of snob. It is a friendly, social crowd. None of us would turn our noses up if offered a sample of wine, or even a mediocre beer.

I guess it is just a different culture of people. I've had some wonderful, strange, and crazy beers at this store with my beer friends. It really is a world that a lot of people just don't have a clue about. But wine people are right there, so close to being able to be a part of the truly unique craft beer movement in the US... they just seem to refuse to do so because of silly misconceptions. I guess I too feel sorry for these types of folks. Oh well.

Thanks for the replies all, and the chance to get this off of my chest. :)
 
I live in Wine Country, tell me about, a lot of great people...but the occasional bad apple (or grape I suppose).
 
I live in Wine Country, tell me about, a lot of great people...but the occasional bad apple (or grape I suppose).

Gawd...same situation with me, and I work at a bottle shop. You can't imagine how many people see our window sign that says "Craft Beer" and come in to tell us it's supposed to be "Draft Beer". 2 people so far haven't even heard of craft beer & it took some explaining to get the point across.
 
That guy is just a snob, pure and simple. I think some of the previous posters nailed it on the head when they said that the guy was trying to be a big shot in front of his girl and appear super sophisticated. To anyone with a head on their shoulders, he just ends up looking like a snobby jerk.

Granted I can be a bit of a snob as well (as I imagine many of us can be when someone orders a bud light instead of a fine craft brew), but I try to use my knowledge to help educate others and I attempt to keep an open mind when trying something new.
 
Just ignore him. People like that aren't going to change, so why waste your time with them?

He's not a D.B. because he's a wine drinker. He's a D.B. because he's a D.B.

Although it does seem there are more D.B. wine drinkers than any other recreational beverage enthusiasts...
 
Should have given him a review on Carlo Rossi based on your last gallon challenge.
 
Can you imagine living in a world where we all agreed with one another, or in one where somebody didn't get bent out of shape by what someone else thought?

It would be pretty boring...
 
I work at a wine shop that also sells craft beer and Im amazed at how many people talk like they have a good palate and then go buy steinlager (bmc equivalent). People just arent educated about beer. I feel bad for them :(
 
My brother is a very successful and respected professional winemaker. There is a quote that he always says....."It takes a lot of great beer to make a little great wine". His employee break room has a kegerator full of Firestone Union Jack. Apparently he is respected enough in the beer world that he helped Firestone Walker make/blend their Anniversary releases. The wine and beer world are not, nor should they be, a "this or that" proposition.
 
pointerDixie214 said:
Although it does seem there are more D.B. wine drinkers than any other recreational beverage enthusiasts...

You've clearly never been on beeradvocate.com
 
I actually don't care what their interest is, I don't like people who offer unsolicited opinions/conversation. I just give them a weird look and ignore them, maybe a laugh if I am willing to fight that day. I never engage in conversation with people who try to speak to me when I don't want them to. It caused an uncomfortable situation at the mall just recently when a woman tried to talk to my daughter as I pushed the stroller...

^^^ Yes, being a NY'er originally - that's the way you do things. It's much worse now living in places that are "friendlier" and they think that I want to talk to them about all sorts of crap. Leave me alone please.
 
I think with any "hobby" or connoisseur be it wine, beer, cars, model rockets, astronomy, ect you will have people who want to spread their love to others but you'll also have people who are just a**holes and see themselves as superior to others.
 
You've clearly never been on beeradvocate.com

:D ahahhahaha, too true.

The guy is/was a ********* trying to look good in front of his girl. BFD. I would have just ignored him and continued drinking my beer. Life's too short to worry about all the *********s out there.
 
:D ahahhahaha, too true.

The guy is/was a ********* trying to look good in front of his girl. BFD. I would have just ignored him and continued drinking my beer. Life's too short to worry about all the *********s out there.

There are plenty of aficionados of other things like cigars, beer, cars, etc that are *********s. It's not just wine that brings them out.

Snobs of any sort are laughingly douchy. No big deal.
 
There are plenty of aficionados of other things like cigars, beer, cars, etc that are *********s. It's not just wine that brings them out.

Snobs of any sort are laughingly douchy. No big deal.

Exactly. There's really no difference between wine snobs, beer snobs, cigar snobs, etc. It's just a matter of what they're being douchey about.
 
I've been fortunate to not come across many wine snobs. But, I think that's due to the fact that Virginia is in an interesting situation with both a burgeoning craft beer community and a rapidly growing number of wineries. These two communities have grown up together and their consumers seem to have very similar mindsets regarding the products. In fact, I think the only wine snobs I've come across have been people who turn there noses up at Virginia wine.
 
I typically say " to each their own ". If they continue I will find a polite way insult them. ;-).

I really hate people that feel the need to impose their opinions on others.

All snobs can take a leap as far as I'm concerned.
 
Airborneguy said:
I actually don't care what their interest is, I don't like people who offer unsolicited opinions/conversation. I just give them a weird look and ignore them, maybe a laugh if I am willing to fight that day. I never engage in conversation with people who try to speak to me when I don't want them to. It caused an uncomfortable situation at the mall just recently when a woman tried to talk to my daughter as I pushed the stroller...

I like your style.
 

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