I was looking to start a micro brewery and was looking for some partners

[Airborneguy]

 

[a10t2]

You can hire a quality brewer for cheap, probably under $30,000/year.

WELL under.

 

[buyloewen]

I know i am doomed to fail I should just quit now. Yes I need capital and expertise. That is why I'm looking for partners or I would do it myself. I figure 10 partners would bring enough brains to the table in different areas. I like Seattle but the Texas is market is huge and more catered towards the beer I want to sell. Someone asked what kind of market share I will be able to grab, I would say 5% should be easy to obtain within 10 years I know it sounds ridiculous but my idea is that good! Here is my business plan just change a few words presto
http://www.bplans.com/brewery_business_plan/executive_summary_fc.cfm
PM if you are a Ron Paul supporter and serious about getting a business going.

 

[kaiser423]

I know i am doomed to fail I should just quit now. Yes I need capital and expertise. That is why I'm looking for partners or I would do it myself. I figure 10 partners would bring enough brains to the table in different areas. I like Seattle but the Texas is market is huge and more catered towards the beer I want to sell. Someone asked what kind of market share I will be able to grab, I would say 5% should be easy to obtain within 10 years I know it sounds ridiculous but my idea is that good! Here is my business plan just change a few words presto
http://www.bplans.com/brewery_business_plan/executive_summary_fc.cfm
PM if you are a Ron Paul supporter and serious about getting a business going.

Why do we not have an animated popcorn gif? This is great.

 

[IrregularPulse]

I don't know whats more important to you. A successful business, or hanging our with Ron Paul fans.

 

[trubled]

I know i am doomed to fail I should just quit now. Yes I need capital and expertise. That is why I'm looking for partners or I would do it myself. I figure 10 partners would bring enough brains to the table in different areas. I like Seattle but the Texas is market is huge and more catered towards the beer I want to sell. Someone asked what kind of market share I will be able to grab, I would say 5% should be easy to obtain within 10 years I know it sounds ridiculous but my idea is that good! Here is my business plan just change a few words presto
http://www.bplans.com/brewery_business_plan/executive_summary_fc.cfm
PM if you are a Ron Paul supporter and serious about getting a business going.

check your pm's.

 

[the_bird]

I know i am doomed to fail I should just quit now. Yes I need capital and expertise. That is why I'm looking for partners or I would do it myself. I figure 10 partners would bring enough brains to the table in different areas. I like Seattle but the Texas is market is huge and more catered towards the beer I want to sell. Someone asked what kind of market share I will be able to grab, I would say 5% should be easy to obtain within 10 years I know it sounds ridiculous but my idea is that good! Here is my business plan just change a few words presto
http://www.bplans.com/brewery_business_plan/executive_summary_fc.cfm
PM if you are a Ron Paul supporter and serious about getting a business going.

So, let's say I had some capital I wanted to invest, and I liked the idea of investing in a brewery. What exactly are you bringing to the table other than a marketing idea and a "business plan" you found on the web? Why would I partner with you?

That's the real question you need to be able to answer - what are you really bringing to the table that would entitle you to an ownership stake? I mean, I'm kinda being snarky but not really. No capital. No brewing experience. No industry contacts. No business background. You've got to bring one of these things to the table, or you're just hired help, not a partner.

And the Ron Paul thing... REALLY? What the hell does politics have to do with anything? What's important to you?

 

[JoeBronco]

I know i am doomed to fail I should just quit now. Yes I need capital and expertise. That is why I'm looking for partners or I would do it myself. I figure 10 partners would bring enough brains to the table in different areas. I like Seattle but the Texas is market is huge and more catered towards the beer I want to sell. Someone asked what kind of market share I will be able to grab, I would say 5% should be easy to obtain within 10 years I know it sounds ridiculous but my idea is that good! Here is my business plan just change a few words presto
http://www.bplans.com/brewery_business_plan/executive_summary_fc.cfm
PM if you are a Ron Paul supporter and serious about getting a business going.

This statement tells me that you have done NO research and are doomed to fail...

5% is a not an easily reachable goal. I wish you the best... When you get there make sure you send HBT a few million$$$... Since the other 2000 microbreweries are fighting for the 5% available market share. And when you get ahold of it, only 0%. You may reach opposition. Dogfish head (if im not mistaken) is not even close to 1% yet...

 

[jwheelz]

I know i am doomed to fail I should just quit now. Yes I need capital and expertise. That is why I'm looking for partners or I would do it myself. I figure 10 partners would bring enough brains to the table in different areas. I like Seattle but the Texas is market is huge and more catered towards the beer I want to sell. Someone asked what kind of market share I will be able to grab, I would say 5% should be easy to obtain within 10 years I know it sounds ridiculous but my idea is that good! Here is my business plan just change a few words presto
http://www.bplans.com/brewery_business_plan/executive_summary_fc.cfm
PM if you are a Ron Paul supporter and serious about getting a business going.

Do you realize that Brewery plan you posted is a SAMPLE trying to get you to buy a product? Thats not an actual business plan.

Thats like showing everyone a picture of your wife, when in reality it's the chick who came in the cheap frame you got at Wal-Mart...

 

[kaiser423]

So, let's say I had some capital I wanted to invest, and I liked the idea of investing in a brewery. What exactly are you bringing to the table other than a marketing idea and a "business plan" you found on the web? Why would I partner with you?

I understand that he may not want to put the good idea out on the table and tell all of us. In fact, it's a good idea for him not to, so I'm going to give him a bit of a free pass on this one. But if he has a really good idea, he's really going to wrong way about finding someone He should have a small portfolio/brief that he shows in person to potential partners, possibly even under NDA.

But he doesn't have an "elevator speech" as far as I can tell - you have to be able to sell you/your business in the time it takes an elevator to go a couple of floors for when that angel investor walks into one that you're on. If you can't sell yourself within 45 seconds, you're not organized and focused enough.

He hasn't sold himself at all to the people whom he is trying to court after quite a few posts.....messaging fail.

 

[MarsColonist]

Here is my business plan just change a few words presto

"...change a few words..." Sorry, but LOL.

There are PLENTY of locals that have noticed the same trends you see and are WAY farther ahead than you; ie 4 micros opened in Austin this year, one in San Antonio, and one in Houston that I know of, with about 6 more on the table working on plans/investors. I wish you the best of luck. Writing an ORIGINAL business plan is HARD WORK; you have to know it back and forth from memory to inspire confidence in people with money. You have to make it your own, in your verbage. Investors will read it, then talk to you and KNOW you didnt write it. That, in of itself, does not inspire confidence.

Oh, and you linked to the Sediberg South African brewery plan. Well, here is another plan to help you so you can change some more words. FWIW, do you know what all the items in the financial statements mean? Not trying to crush the dream, but you gots lots of work to do, and your Rome wont be built in a day.....

 

[buyloewen]

If your not interested move on nothing to see here. Who gives a flying f$#@ about a business plan talk is cheap. Why partner with me because I see what you cannot see and what do you have to loose? Seriously you make the beer package it, the hard part is getting into the stores no idea on this process I'm assuming there are distributors you contact. Then the beer sits on the shelf with the 100's of other beers how do get the customer to pick your beer in under 5 seconds? Anyone here in Texas that is interested no excons or pedos just an upstanding citizen. Ballpark figure on basic equipment costs to get started? Should I use legal zoom for incorporation?

 

[MarsColonist]

If your not interested move on nothing to see here. Who gives a flying f$#@ about a business plan talk is cheap.

Investors care about a biz plan, that's who; they want to know that you know what to do with their money.. it's not your money on the line. ALL you have is talk; no brewing experience, no business experience, no manufacturing/inventory experience. 1% inspiration, 99% perspiration.

Why partner with me because I see what you cannot see and what do you have to loose?

How do you know others dont see what you see? How much have you researched the competition in Texas? As far as what is there to loose (sic)? Um. LOTS of money. Do you have any idea how much money stainless and copper costs? You are looking in the US$100k+++ for any largish operation (that is probably on the really, really, really, really low end).

Seriously you make the beer package it, the hard part is getting into the stores no idea on this process I'm assuming there are distributors you contact.

There is this *wonderful* thing in Texas called the TABC. They like rules; you should check into that.

Then the beer sits on the shelf with the 100's of other beers how do get the customer to pick your beer in under 5 seconds?

Good question. No one here has thought that through. /sarcasm

 

[Hermit]

Just read the first page and this sounds familiar as former part owner of a business. No end of people walking in off the street with 'ideas' and only wanted our resources to prove them right and make them rich. Guess how many times that happened....

 

[weagle05]

I would love to see the OP on Shark Tank.

http://abc.go.com/shows/shark-tank

 

[buyloewen]

Ok let's get crazy if we get 20 people together with one idea and a common goal maybe not mine. Form a corporation and we fail that would just be pathetic. See what I am getting at?

 

[shamrockdoc]

Man OP has you guys hard. This has got to be a joke......Right!.........Right?

 

[Hermit]

I have thought of an interesting marketing idea that should garner some brand recognition in each city. I would prefer to find people with similar political views basically a supporter of Ron Paul.

Ok let's get crazy if we get 20 people together with one idea and a common goal maybe not mine. Form a corporation and we fail that would just be pathetic. See what I am getting at?

You have a marketing idea yet apparently no idea how to market else you wouldn't be on a beer making forum admitting you know nothing about making beer. First red flag. You want to align with people who support a fringe political figure. Second red flag. You think you can get 20 people together and rally them around a common goal. You say "maybe not mine" but we know you think you can win them over to yours. Big Red Flag.

 

[shamrockdoc]

I would really go to probrewer.com and check that place out.

 

[BlackForestBrewery]

To be honest, I'm a bit disappointed with the attitude of a lot of people here. I know my opinion in this matter does not matter, but its sad to see so many people being disrespectful to a guy who is trying to start a micro.

Granted, he does not have the know how, and has a LONG way to go, but there are better ways of going about this. Being disrespectful isn't the way. Throw the guy a bone and respectfully give him some pointers.

Look man, if you are serious about starting a microbrewery, like others have said.. do some research. The more you understand about a product/process (brewing process) the better chances you will have getting into this field as a business.

 

[Hermit]

Anyone here in Texas

Vancouver BC? Texas? Nigeria? 419?

 

[MarsColonist]

Ok let's get crazy if we get 20 people together with one idea and a common goal maybe not mine. Form a corporation and we fail that would just be pathetic. See what I am getting at?

That is some serious dilution of ownership. FWIW, filing fee for LLC is $300.

Okay, just for humor's sake, Im one of those 20. Ive got: Texas native, an engineering degree and worked in manufacturing, award-winning beer (process and recipe), BJCP judge (quality control), industry contacts in retail, bars, and distribution, my own ideas, and a little bit of money.

Whatcha got? What stake in the company are you looking for? Mind you, 20 people, equally distributed money input, all raised internally, with equal skill sets, you'd max out at 5%. Just saying.

 

[Hermit]

To be honest, I'm a bit disappointed with the attitude of a lot of people here. I know my opinion in this matter does not matter, but its sad to see so many people being disrespectful to a guy who is trying to start a micro.

As a former business owner I used to see these guys all the time. Walks in off the street, thinks they have a perpetual motion machine design and wants you to spend all of YOUR time, YOUR money and YOUR expertise to bring THEIR design to fruition. This guy has done nothing but sat around and dreamed about making a killing and thinks some business owner is going to give a crap. Ain't gonna happen. Chances that he has a legit, workable idea is pretty slim. Worse, he could be here scamming trying a 419.

 

[MarsColonist]

To be honest, I'm a bit disappointed with the attitude of a lot of people here. I know my opinion in this matter does not matter, but its sad to see so many people being disrespectful to a guy who is trying to start a micro.

Granted, he does not have the know how, and has a LONG way to go, but there are better ways of going about this. Being disrespectful isn't the way. Throw the guy a bone and respectfully give him some pointers.

Look man, if you are serious about starting a microbrewery, like others have said.. do some research. The more you understand about a product/process (brewing process) the better chances you will have getting into this field as a business.

Something to be said for realistic expectations. There is a difference in wanting help to clarify/refine YOUR hard work and then there is wanting people to give you all of THEIR hard work. Im all for encouragement, but throw a dog a bone and show that you've at least thought SOME of it through...

What advice is there to give to an idea man with no knowledge on the subject? Learn about the subject and do it and get better? You want to make a business around it? Learn the biz, learn the people. Write a business plan. Maybe Im jaded from working in design engineering for a while, but I can certainly understand where Hermit is coming from, as I see "idea" people WAY too often... I could fill my house with business ideas with no money or effort behind them...

Annnnnndddddd Ive been drinking this afternoon because my car just died and Im pissed.

 

[BlackForestBrewery]

Im all for encouragement, but throw a dog a bone and show that you've at least thought SOME of it through...

What advice is there to give to an idea man with no knowledge on the subject? Learn about the subject and do it and get better?

Well man, I said he does NOT have the know how and has a LONG way to go. I said this in my reply.

I just said there were better ways of going about this. The guy needs to do a lot of work, research, etc on the matter. I just told him that without being an ass.

 

[BlackForestBrewery]

As a former business owner I used to see these guys all the time. Walks in off the street, thinks they have a perpetual motion machine design and wants you to spend all of YOUR time, YOUR money and YOUR expertise to bring THEIR design to fruition. This guy has done nothing but sat around and dreamed about making a killing and thinks some business owner is going to give a crap. Ain't gonna happen. Chances that he has a legit, workable idea is pretty slim. Worse, he could be here scamming trying a 419.

Well man, where did I once say he had the perfect dream plan and it would blossom into a thriving business?

I never agreed that his plan was perfect, in fact I told him he needs to do some research and has a LONG way to go. I suggested he learn a bit before he starts asking people to go into something like this with him. I only brought this up become I thought he should at least be treated with respect. It does not matter if you agree with him or not, the point is he shouldn't be treated badly because he was willing to share his opinion/ideas with people.

 

[Hermit]

Am I being hard? Yes? Why? To let people know from my personal experience that if you are a betting person, the odds are probably a million to one on this. Just take that into account before parting with your money. Looking for partners, lists his location as BC and then in a post says Texas. WTF? If you are looking for business partners do you start out trying to hide where you are from?

 

[BlackForestBrewery]

Am I being hard? Yes? Why? To let people know from my personal experience that if you are a betting person, the odds are probably a million to one on this. Just take that into account before parting with your money. Looking for partners, lists his location as BC and then in a post says Texas. WTF? If you are looking for business partners do you start out trying to hide where you are from?

Well you could ask him about all these details, bring it up politely. There are so many better ways to go about this man. I'm not being rude to you when I say this, but I honestly doubt anyone was going to read this simple post and say ''OH WHOA NO WAY?! LET ME GET MY CHECK BOOK!!''. Explain to him that if he is serious there are things that need to be done, information to be found, perhaps a meeting with both parties with a lawyer present to go over legal information, etc.

Being rude for no reason doesn't fix a thing. Point him in the right direction, give him advice, but be man enough to tell him in a polite way. This isn't a pissing contest where your middle school buddies in the locker room will think your badass for making another kid feel like crap. Does no one read the ''be polite'' sticky on the top of this forum?

 

[the_bird]

Why baby gloves? I don't think anyone's asked him any questions that are unreasonable at all. If you can't handle answering questions like those posed, you aren't going to get any investors or any other partners. If you can't answer tough questions (and really, business planning-101 type questions), you aren't going to be successful.

If the OP's not a troll (and that's still a very strong possibility in my mind), he's tremendously naive in terms of understanding what it's going to take to have a successful business (or to even get a partnership off the ground). Assuming the latter, it does absolutely not one iota of good to p*ssyfoot around these issues.

 

[MyNameIsPaul]

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