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Stauffbier
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Pasteurizing apple cider Breaking Bad style!
50 bottles done and no explosions this year...
50 bottles done and no explosions this year...
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Stauffbier
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I had a bottle explode in the pot last year, and it put the fear in me. It put quite a dent on the aluminum lid, and glass managed to get passed it. I walked in the kitchen to find glass all over the stove top and on the floor all around the stove. The sound was quite impressive, too.
Next time use a pressure cooker. The lid is locked down so glass won't get by it.
Nothing can possibly go wrong.
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Intuitively, I'd say the best plan is to leave plenty of airspace in the bottle.
Gases (air) are very compressible, but liquids are very not (that's why brakes, et.al., are hydraulic and not pneumatic). With the highly compressible headspace in the bottle, your chances of explosion are minimized.
LOVE the pic. And, what is Krave?
It's a breakfast cereal.
I pasteurize exactly the same way as I would water bath can, only to 160f instead of boiling. That means adding the bottles to the water with something in the bottom of the pot to keep them off it. Submerging the bottles. Heating the whole pot of water until you get to 160f, uncovered. I maintain that for 10 minutes. Then lift the bottles out onto a towel. Pour the water out, and refill the pot with cold. Then start all over again with a new batch of bottles. No bottles touching while heating or cooling.
That minimizes the chances of giving the bottles thermal shock. Unless they are flawed or over pressured, that's usually why bottles go when they are being pasteurized.
Ironically, the pot for a pressure cooker is perfect for this. They have false bottoms. Don't use the lid.
Stauffbier
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If I had one I would! I put 2 very heavy cast iron dutch ovens on top this time.
I actually have always suspected that it was indeed a weak bottle, but that batch was pretty heavily carbonated. I wouldn't say over carbed, but it was definitely very well carbonated. I'm sure those 2 things led to the explosion. This year I carbed much lower, which I'm fine with..
I did notice that the liquid was about 3/4 inch away from the cap after pasteurizing. Perhaps next time I'll fill them just slightly lower.
Krave is some new fangled, trendy cereal that my daughter just had to have!
Stauffbier
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That makes sense. I hadn't actually thought about that when I responded.
Intuitively I think it's safer than boiling in a pan. Science might not back that up.
By safer, I'm thinking that it is less likely to explode. Or, at least, no more likely.
Sake? What about sake? I like sake...
The carbonator caps leak. I thought I could just let the bottle carb at 30psi for several days. Not a good idea. The gas connector doesn't seat exactly right no matter what I do. Not sure how much gas I lost, it's not a fast leak.
So, I decided to reset the high regulator to 45 psi like is recommended for carbonating soda. I set the low one to 30 for the moment, and switched the carbonated orange drink stuff to that one. At 45 psi with a cold liquid I was able to shake the bottle and carbonate a 2 liter bottle in about two minutes. You can sure tell that it's happening too. The regulator was groaning from the temp change. The bottle was also vibrating slightly. When it stopped doing that, I stopped shaking it. Carbonation was perfect on a sample I just poured.
I did try replacing the O-ring on the carbonator post. It didn't help. I think the carbonator caps have a check valve in them. I had the bottle on it's side and was shaking the ish out of it. No liquid went back up the line. That saves me some time in building a custom detachable extension piece with a check valve in it.
That's mixed news. I'm annoyed that the gas ball lock connector won't seal. Happy the carbonation happens so easily with a cold liquid at 45 psi. So, I'm back to my previous thought that I will want to run three regulators. At 45, 30, and 15ish psi. For carbonating bottles of soda, for carbonating kegs of soda, and for carbonating kegs of homebrew respectively.
I could just disconnect the high regulator from the kegs, set it to 45 psi, and carbonate the bottles. Then turn the regulator back to 30 psi. I'd prefer to end with a system that doesn't require opening the coffin unless you need to switch out kegs though. I also don't want the gas system external. That looks really messy, and this is in my living room.
Well, once I get some longer dispensing lines, I'm going to call phase 1 of my keezer build complete. It will be functional, even if you do have to open the coffin.
Phase 2 would be adding a 3rd regulator. Setting everything up, with a nice long 5/16" ID line for the 45 psi line.
Phase 3 would involve building a collar, adding a 4th 5 gallon keg, setting up faucets through the collar. Possibly I would upgrade the co2 tank at that point too.
Phase 4 would be building a box into the collar to house the 45 psi connector, and prettifying the whole thing.
I will probably build the box to house the external gas connector into the collar when I build that. Phases 3 and 4 will not happen until after my family visit in January....
Except the government shutdown is messing up my eldest sisters business, so they may not be able to come at all. That would include my nephews, and would remove the need to delay phases 3 and 4 until after the visit. Building a collar is going to make the lock on the freezer pretty much useless, and I want to use it to lock up the kegs and the hard liquor while they are here.
That's the plan as it stands now. Things do change though.
The carbonator caps leak. I thought I could just let the bottle carb at 30psi for several days. Not a good idea. The gas connector doesn't seat exactly right no matter what I do. Not sure how much gas I lost, it's not a fast leak.
So, I decided to reset the high regulator to 45 psi like is recommended for carbonating soda. I set the low one to 30 for the moment, and switched the carbonated orange drink stuff to that one. At 45 psi with a cold liquid I was able to shake the bottle and carbonate a 2 liter bottle in about two minutes. You can sure tell that it's happening too. The regulator was groaning from the temp change. The bottle was also vibrating slightly. When it stopped doing that, I stopped shaking it. Carbonation was perfect on a sample I just poured.
I did try replacing the O-ring on the carbonator post. It didn't help. I think the carbonator caps have a check valve in them. I had the bottle on it's side and was shaking the ish out of it. No liquid went back up the line. That saves me some time in building a custom detachable extension piece with a check valve in it.
That's mixed news. I'm annoyed that the gas ball lock connector won't seal. Happy the carbonation happens so easily with a cold liquid at 45 psi. So, I'm back to my previous thought that I will want to run three regulators. At 45, 30, and 15ish psi. For carbonating bottles of soda, for carbonating kegs of soda, and for carbonating kegs of homebrew respectively.
I could just disconnect the high regulator from the kegs, set it to 45 psi, and carbonate the bottles. Then turn the regulator back to 30 psi. I'd prefer to end with a system that doesn't require opening the coffin unless you need to switch out kegs though. I also don't want the gas system external. That looks really messy, and this is in my living room.
Well, once I get some longer dispensing lines, I'm going to call phase 1 of my keezer build complete. It will be functional, even if you do have to open the coffin.
Phase 2 would be adding a 3rd regulator. Setting everything up, with a nice long 5/16" ID line for the 45 psi line.
Phase 3 would involve building a collar, adding a 4th 5 gallon keg, setting up faucets through the collar. Possibly I would upgrade the co2 tank at that point too.
Phase 4 would be building a box into the collar to house the 45 psi connector, and prettifying the whole thing.
I will probably build the box to house the external gas connector into the collar when I build that. Phases 3 and 4 will not happen until after my family visit in January....
Except the government shutdown is messing up my eldest sisters business, so they may not be able to come at all. That would include my nephews, and would remove the need to delay phases 3 and 4 until after the visit. Building a collar is going to make the lock on the freezer pretty much useless, and I want to use it to lock up the kegs and the hard liquor while they are here.
That's the plan as it stands now. Things do change though.
Hmm, I just took a good look at the carbonator caps. No check valve. Oh well. I guess it was the gas inflow that kept the liquid out of the line. I'll probably just put a check valved shutoff at the regulator. With a fairly long line, I doubt any liquid with get all the way back there anyway.
Hmm, I don't think that's true if you lock the lid and let it build up pressure. You have to be careful not to let those things get to much pressure in them. If you had one with a blown seal, then sure. The lids are a lot stouter then a normal pot, and the locking flange should keep the lid from popping off and allowing shrapnel to escape.
I like mine for bottle pasteurizing, I just don't put the lid on at all.
Yea, but the pressure inside the bottle builds also, because there's fluid in there too. So, is the differential between what's inside the bottle and outside so great?
Pressure cookers won't exceed a specific pressure by design. I have one and use it.
Soul, for your soul. For your late nite soundtrack, Nina Simone, doing an epic Sinnerman.
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Pappy, you sort of brought this on bro 
Bare with me, or is it bear? Doesn't really matter. Weird the way a mind works.
Sinner Man -> Daughter of ->Methodist minister -> Grenwich Villiage -> Bohemian ->
Next song.. Bohemian Rhapsody!
Seems to me this song is about let down, falling short of expectations, an apology, and humble love. It's fun, it's deep and passionate. Doubt there will ever be another song like this.
A better discription may come from Wikpdeia. "
The meaning of this song.. well many have interrupted (EDIT, interrupted was a typo, ...many have interpreted it. Then again maybe interrupted was an accidental correct word). Guess nobody will ever know for sure
To me, and probably most of us, this is just a great song and a gift from, Freddy Mecury.
Bare with me, or is it bear? Doesn't really matter. Weird the way a mind works.
Sinner Man -> Daughter of ->Methodist minister -> Grenwich Villiage -> Bohemian ->
Next song.. Bohemian Rhapsody!
Seems to me this song is about let down, falling short of expectations, an apology, and humble love. It's fun, it's deep and passionate. Doubt there will ever be another song like this.
A better discription may come from Wikpdeia. "
The meaning of this song.. well many have interrupted (EDIT, interrupted was a typo, ...many have interpreted it. Then again maybe interrupted was an accidental correct word). Guess nobody will ever know for sure
To me, and probably most of us, this is just a great song and a gift from, Freddy Mecury.
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LBR! You still up my friend?
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I can imagine. Once the brain gets to working, and talking, and thinking and literally speaking out-loud; the damn thing just doesn't want to sleep. Cheers my friend. Hope you can get some snoozing in soon.
Cheers my friend. Hope you can get some snoozing in soon.
I can imagine. Once the brain gets to working, and talking, and thinking and literally speaking out-loud; the damn thing just doesn't want to sleep.
This song should put you to sleep. I like it a lot, late a night.
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Here's another. I love this song. Goodnight moon.
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Good night nighters
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I do like that song, Pappy. Never heard it before tonight. Took me a few times to get YouTube to show the words. To be honest, takes my brain a while to absorb stuff but I like where it's wandering now with this song. Cheers Pappy!
27 days until D-day for Snap child #4. We went and did the smartest thing we could think of:
We're on night 3 and my wife texted and said it's not going well. I've never had a new puppy inside. They've always been outside with other dogs since they were brought home. It's been 8 years since I've had a puppy at all.
Trying to find some pigeons locally is getting me nowhere. I found a guy with quail and pheasant locally for good prices, quail are so stinking fast, and pheasant so big for such a small pup. Maybe I can take a trap down to the mall and catch a few. Think they'd mind?
I feel like I've forgotten all together how to train a bird dog. This will be my third trained from a puppy and my fifth all together, but it's been so long that it's like starting over.
I hate to be the selfish jerk, but I have to admit, I'm kind of glad to be working graveyard shift for the next month or so. Mwahahaha
We're on night 3 and my wife texted and said it's not going well. I've never had a new puppy inside. They've always been outside with other dogs since they were brought home. It's been 8 years since I've had a puppy at all.
Trying to find some pigeons locally is getting me nowhere. I found a guy with quail and pheasant locally for good prices, quail are so stinking fast, and pheasant so big for such a small pup. Maybe I can take a trap down to the mall and catch a few. Think they'd mind?
I feel like I've forgotten all together how to train a bird dog. This will be my third trained from a puppy and my fifth all together, but it's been so long that it's like starting over.
I hate to be the selfish jerk, but I have to admit, I'm kind of glad to be working graveyard shift for the next month or so. Mwahahaha
brewingmeister
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How nice of you to get that puppy a baby for a snack.
What kind of pup is that?
What kind of pup is that?
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snaps10 said:27 days until D-day for Snap child #4. We went and did the smartest thing we could think of: We're on night 3 and my wife texted and said it's not going well. I've never had a new puppy inside. They've always been outside with other dogs since they were brought home. It's been 8 years since I've had a puppy at all. Trying to find some pigeons locally is getting me nowhere. I found a guy with quail and pheasant locally for good prices, quail are so stinking fast, and pheasant so big for such a small pup. Maybe I can take a trap down to the mall and catch a few. Think they'd mind? I feel like I've forgotten all together how to train a bird dog. This will be my third trained from a puppy and my fifth all together, but it's been so long that it's like starting over. I hate to be the selfish jerk, but I have to admit, I'm kind of glad to be working graveyard shift for the next month or so. Mwahahaha
Snaps, I don't think you have anything to feel guilty about. Four children, great wife and making great memories and nice life for your family. Yore a good dude. Midnight shifts come and go. Family is for life.
Cheers to you brother!
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