I like this time at night on HBT

[Cygnus_X1]

My hours are odd because I get up insanely early.

 

[Varmintman]

Oh...OK.
Guess I'm still a little peeved I couldn't get a siphon going no matter what I tried.

Hope the autosiphon at the LBHS will be OK, that's what I'll get.

See that is why you need to find what works for you and run with it. Barney is right. Is what I do right as well....yes it is at least for me. Lots of people do not secondary and lots of folks like me do secondary. If you are racking into a secondary using the spigot is fine since not much trub will be pulled in.

 

[barneygumble]

I secondary for dry hopping, or other flavor additions like oak or cacao chips. I also rack every batch into a carboy, condition at fermentation temps off of the cake for a few days then cold crash it for a few before kegging.

 

[Varmintman]

The system that works for me the best is use the spigot from the primary to a better bottle for secondary then siphon into a bottling tote after a week or two. I get very little trub doing this and it lets me harvest the yeast sooner or I would not even secondary.

I would say about brewing that there are definite things you should not do that will pretty much ruin a beer. But then I would also say there are many good ways to make a great beer and none are better for the most part.

Brewing should be fun and part of making it fun is finding ways to make the hard bits easier. My bottling set up would not work for many people but because I got a bum back it works great for me. It takes me longer but I can get it done with out having to kill myself.

 

[barneygumble]

The system that works for me the best is use the spigot from the primary to a better bottle for secondary then siphon into a bottling tote after a week or two. I get very little trub doing this and it lets me harvest the yeast sooner or I would not even secondary.

I would say about brewing that there are definite things you should not do that will pretty much ruin a beer. But then I would also say there are many good ways to make a great beer and none are better for the most part.

Brewing should be fun and part of making it fun is finding ways to make the hard bits easier. My bottling set up would not work for many people but because I got a bum back it works great for me. It takes me longer but I can get it done with out having to kill myself.

Well, carrying over trub wont kill a beer in secondary, wont really affect flavor at all much. More of a clarity thing. As long as you use a hose on your spigot and dont splash the beer during transfer.

 

[Varmintman]

Oh I agree for sure. LOL if people want to see a convoluted brew day they should ought to see me brew. Having a bum back makes up for some really weird brewing

 

[BobbiLynn]

Oh...OK.
Guess I'm still a little peeved I couldn't get a siphon going no matter what I tried.

Hope the autosiphon at the LBHS will be OK, that's what I'll get.

See all the different opinions? Pick it up and just dump it in, when the siphon pisses you off. Pour into your mr. beer kegs and bottle from there. Just pour slowly as you can to prevent air bubbles. If air bubbles occur, just let them die down, loosely cover any device with sanitized tin foil or something else, if it takes more than 10 or 20 minutes for air bubbles to go away. Oxygenation of beer takes times and for most beginners, and beginner kits, not enough time to make it skunky. Beginners almost always rush things. Or they follow the instructions on how much time it takes. Always at least double the amount of time the kits tell you.

 

[BobbiLynn]

/\/\ bad advice /\/\ Don't really just pour it, but I have done it when siphon pissed me off and worked out fine.

 

[Airborneguy]

Kids are gone. All growed up. And I do like going to functions on weekends. But I've been doing this all my adult life. It is stable and pays the bills. What do you do? Oh and we call "swings" what I do. I work three second and two third shifts a week. A swing shift.

We call the days off swings, not the shift. I know some jobs call the midnight shift "the swing shift".

I'm a sergeant in the NYPD. I did midnights for about 6 years as a cop mixed in with some horrible time on day tours. Thankfully I got a midnight slot when I got promoted.

 

[Leadgolem]

Exactly what it was. I cheated.

Not really. Commercially made cheddar has coloring in it. The aging doesn't impart that much color.

Once in a while I have a chorizo and nutella sandwich so... I think I´ll like that , I mean I like peanut butter and LOVE bacon why not to have them both in a sandwich then?

This sounds bizarrely delicious. I think I will have to try this next time I've got some chorizo.

Troll was my first thought. Where's Revvy, the HBT's historian. He'd point out the epic Drunken Ramble.. many have tried, few succeed.

Something about a couch and front porch.

Wait, I can put a coach on my front porch????

Had to figure that was coming eventually. I must admit, I very rarely eat bacon. I like it and all, but I find good ribs to be MUCH better than bacon.

How about bacon cut into the shape of ribs?

That's great! Although I live in dairy land (lovely smell) I don't have access to raw milk. I was just reading yesterday that sheep's milk is high in protein and vitamins and produces two and a half times more cheese than cow's or goat's milk. It also takes less rennet, less salt, the curds can be cut larger and less pressure is used.

Sounds like you are in a win-win situation!

It would be very interesting to know what this tastes like.

Selling junk is a lot of work. Lots of digging around, wrestling with car parts, trying to find tractor parts... We have 25+ old broken down cars and trucks and massive amounts of other things. 2 campers. Some neat looking metal lockers, like old shop lockers with the top shelf and place to hang stuff. Used to be painted red and you can see into them, you know not solid metal, like grid pattern whatever you call it. Going to put one in my shed because I just like the rustic way it looks. Just so much stuff it's overwhelming, 3 generations of hoarders attributed to the collection. Need to call American Pickers, they would be impressed, rusty stuff as far as the eye can see. Huge barn packed full then 1-2 acres behind it with stuff everywhere. Coolers alone, at least 30, in various shapes and sizes. Old, good quality ones. Might be able to put those in the classified section here.

One word... overwhelming... glad hubby agreed to start selling some stuff. We got a bunch of pictures today but my nephew has the memory card thing with all the pics on it. He's going to start putting some stuff on craigslist.

Long day....

While I was living in my last apartment I threw away, or donated, half of my possessions. I'm not a hoarder or anything, but I did have things I had no expectation of ever needing again. I found it liberating. Like everything I got rid of was weight off my shoulders.

Kids are gone. All growed up. And I do like going to functions on weekends. But I've been doing this all my adult life. It is stable and pays the bills. What do you do? Oh and we call "swings" what I do. I work three second and two third shifts a week. A swing shift.

Calling yourself a swings around here would mean something rather different.

/\/\ bad advice /\/\ Don't really just pour it, but I have done it when siphon pissed me off and worked out fine.

I decant from primary into my bottling bucket all the time. I mean this literally. I pick up the fermentor and pour brew into the bottling bucket until I start getting trub. It does stir things up, but a couple days in the bottling bucket usually takes care of that.

 

[Leadgolem]

Music feeds the hungry soul.

 

[Dan]

Leadgolem,

Thank you for that wonderful music. Many years ago I spent a few weeks in Christchurch New Zealand, on the way to "The Ice". Antarctica. While in Christchurch I went to an Irish pub. It was called "The Loft". Live band played Irish music, everybody danced, mostly just jumped up and down swinging arms and kicking up the knees. Man, it was fun. That's only been 20 or so years ago. The place probably isn't around anymore but the music lives.

 

[CreamyGoodness]

seemed fitting right now .

 

[Dan]

Way back in the mid eighties there was this little street corner bar in Atsugi Japan, right across the street from the main gate of the airbase where I was stationed. NAF Atsugi. I at that time was a very young Sailor. The ship I usually lived on was stationed in Yokosuka Japan when not at sea but I was an Airdale. When the ship was inport the airwing operated out of Atsugi. Seemed like we were only home (Japan) a few months out of each year and always seemed to be the winter.

Getting back to the bar across the street. An old Mama'san ran it. I use to go over there for a bowl of hot ramen and a beer once in awhile. Just a dive really but warm and comforting. In the winter, when you walk in from the damp chilly air your are welcomed by the warmth and smell of a kerosene heater. It was very comforting for some reason. The place was more of a rectangle than square. After the front entrance everything was on the right. So make a 90 and the small bar was on the left with 4 or 5 booths that paralleled it to the right. At the end of the booths was a jukebox that probably hadn't been updated in a zillion years.

This sounds narcissitic and it probably is. There was an old song on that jukebox, Danny Boy. I haven't heard that version in many years but when my son, also Danny, was young I use to sing it to him. The meaning of this song is not certain but seems to be a father's talk to his son who is soon going to war while the father waits at home. There are other versions of the story. If you know of one please share.

No matter what, this tune is haunting and mystical to me and to many others or I'm sure it wouldn't have lasted so long.

Can't find the old mama san's juke box version. It might have just gone away when that old bar closed down. Forty-five records were no longer a part of juke boxes.

Since I can't find that one I remember, will just play the magical tune song by one of many. This one is from Johnny Cash

 

[emjay]

Leadgolem,

Thank you for that wonderful music. Many years ago I spent a few weeks in Christchurch New Zealand, on the way to "The Ice". Antarctica. While in Christchurch I went to an Irish pub. It was called "The Loft". Live band played Irish music, everybody danced, mostly just jumped up and down swinging arms and kicking up the knees. Man, it was fun. That's only been 20 or so years ago. The place probably isn't around anymore but the music lives.

Video Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljmpKk4F30s

I thought we agreed no more fiddles!!!

 

[CreamyGoodness]

I wish I had the wherewithal to be eloquent tonight... but this song and video can make me 40% happier any given day....

 

[Leadgolem]

I thought we agreed no more fiddles!!!

 

[Airplanedoc]

OK so No fiddles. How about something for Mardi Gras

[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=qWs24435v3Y"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=qWs24435v3Y[/URL]

 

[opus345]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fK5CLplRIno

Oh my! Leadgolem, that was excellent randomness. Truely inspirational.

 

[opus345]

Leadgolem,

Thank you for that wonderful music. Many years ago I spent a few weeks in Christchurch New Zealand, on the way to "The Ice". Antarctica. While in Christchurch I went to an Irish pub. It was called "The Loft". Live band played Irish music, everybody danced, mostly just jumped up and down swinging arms and kicking up the knees. Man, it was fun. That's only been 20 or so years ago. The place probably isn't around anymore but the music lives.

Was onsite at ANZ and Bank of New Zealand in Wellington. Damn, if it wasn't a almost a 24 hour trip, I would be there for yearly vacations.

 

[snaps10]

Eery quiet around here...

 

[BobbiLynn]

Eery quiet around here...

I guess everyone was worn out by Sunday night. Already Monday morning here, almost 7, gonna try to get some work done early.

Tomorrow I am going to try for a double brew day, been taking me around 5 hours per batch but hoping to cut back on that by doubling up. Too bad I don't have a kettle big enough to do 10 gallons at once, so they will have to be back to back.

Now to go catch the tunes I missed while I check my email....

 

[BobbiLynn]

While I was living in my last apartment I threw away, or donated, half of my possessions. I'm not a hoarder or anything, but I did have things I had no expectation of ever needing again. I found it liberating. Like everything I got rid of was weight off my shoulders.

I feel that way a lot, weighed down by so much stuff. I dream of being a nomad with a back sack, completely free to go and see and travel. Get drunk on the beach then crash on someone's couch. Live each day to survive another one.

I decant from primary into my bottling bucket all the time. I mean this literally. I pick up the fermentor and pour brew into the bottling bucket until I start getting trub. It does stir things up, but a couple days in the bottling bucket usually takes care of that.

Great to know!!! Heard so much about not letting oxygen into the beer when transferring. Must do this, must do that.... Confuses me many times.

 

[Varmintman]

Stupid nap kicked my butt for sleep last night. Now I am feeling even more tired

I do not have any empirical knowledge or proof but I am going to say as long as you drink the beer fast the whole oxygen thing is way over rated. I had a little gallon party keg I filled once and was going to carb with sugar that I stupidly pushed the bung completely in while filling it. I had to pour the beer out back into my priming bucket and fish the bung out of the keg. I had a ton of bubbles and air introduced and the beer was fine

So I wonder if it is a function of time with the air making the beer go bad

 

[BobbiLynn]

So I wonder if it is a function of time with the air making the beer go bad

I think so. Finally got me a stash going, couple cases bottled and more on the way. But normally it goes pretty fast. No time for that oxygenation thing.

 

[barneygumble]

I had two Sierra Nevada Ruthless Rye's this morning after work. I loved em going down. I was sayin to myself "nuthin ruthless about them!"

That was this morning. Now I understand.

 

[Cygnus_X1]

Since I can't find that one I remember, will just play the magical tune song by one of many. This one is from Johnny Cash

This is the one I recall.
Probably in that jukebox, as it was a Hit Parade favorite.
Rodger Whittaker is also a possibility.

Did I say I'm a hard rock/metal guy?
That didn't come from nowhere.
I like all kinds of good music.

Jim Reeve's pipes had a certain homegrown edge hidden in all that production.

[ame]http://youtu.be/OWUC_5FjbW0[/ame]

 

[Cygnus_X1]

I had two Sierra Nevada Ruthless Rye's this morning after work. I loved em going down. I was sayin to myself "nuthin ruthless about them!"

That was this morning. Now I understand.

Sam Adams gives me a hangover, even only a couple.
(Not unless you are talking about a "sneak up effect").

But I drink them because they are my favorite bottles.
Had some Sam on the tap for my half-century birthday dinner out tonight and it reminded me of why I liked it in the first place.
But only two 12 ouncers!

My go-to is odd, and seems to have no effect in the morning.
Don't knock until you have tried it:
CANNED Yuengling Lager poured into a traditional glass.
Not the bottle, and not Black & Tan.
Just right, not too heavy and enough flavor to enjoy.

 

[Cygnus_X1]

Janis Joplin Me and Bobby McGee

I'm going to pull another switcharoo and suggest this other treasure from my childhood vault.


[fixed that - pp]

 

[Cygnus_X1]

Now it won't embed.

YT links have a mind of their own!