I have reached the epitome of beer snobbery

[Dwain]

[IOne person used the word *********, not everyone. Why would everyone else need to "check ourselves" for disagreeing?][/I]

attacking someone or calling them a ********* because you don't agree with them is ridiculous.

What I said was if you attack someone or call them names because you don't agree with them, you need to check yourself and I stand by that statement.

 

[lmg95]

i believe the name calling was in verb form as "******** it up"

the OP's first post came off very arrogant and I don't think he intended it to be but whatever.

 

[Joos]

thats the problem with online forums.it is very easy to misunderstand someones intent.Reading my original post now it does seem like I meant to be very arrogant.But I didn't.So thank you for the support,and those of you still trying to tell me what my intentions were go find something better to do.

 

[HOOTER]

thats the problem with online forums.it is very easy to misunderstand someones intent.Reading my original post now it does seem like I meant to be very arrogant.But I didn't.So thank you for the support,and those of you still trying to tell me what my intentions were go find something better to do.

It's all good. We all understand by now (or should anyway) what you were trying to say. You love your homebrew and prefer it over commercial beer, and that's great. You made an outrageous claim (unintentionally apparently) and got nailed for it, which is how it works here. You clarified your statement so now it's time to move on. You've been punished enough.


Cheers!

 

[usurpers26]

Joos, no need to apologize...

If no one else agrees, likes what you have to say, etc, who cares?

thats the problem with online forums.it is very easy to misunderstand someones intent.Reading my original post now it does seem like I meant to be very arrogant.But I didn't.So thank you for the support,and those of you still trying to tell me what my intentions were go find something better to do.

 

[wedge421]

Yeah, I love my homebrew, but by no means am I anywhere near brewing to the quality of my fav beers. Maybe some day..but as of right now I still love going to my local bottle shop and shooting the **** about beers that I didnt brew. For example if you have never had Lost Abbeys Serpents Stout you are doing your self a grave injustice.

 

[glockentalk]

I've been homebrewing for a while now (a year and a half), and I must say that my attitude toward commercial beer has dramatically altered. Brews that I thought were awesome, and helped lead me to homebrewing, I now find bland and boring. On the other hand, beers that I had long ago rejected, like our standard mega-brew lagers, I now appreciate a little: they are cheap and fun to drink every now and then.

Home-brewing has lead me to research the great beers of the world, and I have been working hard at trying them. Some are so amazingly good, they make my head ass-plode. But when it comes right down to it, there is nothing that would make me give up my own brew. And sometimes I find that the most renowned brews don't quite measure up to what I really want. This is true even of fine restaurant food: sometimes even the most impressive meal just inspires you to go home and make it your own way.

 

[yeoldebrewer]

I like the distinctive flavor of many of my homebrews. But I seriously doubt they would compete in contests or the marketplace. I recently tasted Sierra Nevada WCPA on tap for the first time recently. It was a humbling experience. The article about Sierra Nevada's expertise in the latest issue of "Zymurgy" is also enlightening. They go so far as to crush their grains in a nitrogen atmosphere to prevent oxidation in the process. That's brewing strong.

 

[MississippiSlim]

Better, best, etc are useless terms. So you brew beer YOU like better than commercial brews of the same style. Taste is subjective. Plus, if a commercial brewery makes something then you can't make it better cause it wouldnt be the same brew. Okay I make a Fat Tire Clone it taste different but I like it better than Fat Tire...I didnt make Fat Tire. If it tastes different then there is no comparisons.

Why not say, I brew beer I like better than the commercial brews I have tasted in the same style.

 

[david_42]

"No matter how good you are, there is someone better."

 

[Dr_Gordon_Freeman]

Wow... I don't understand the hate on the OP. Taste is subjective. If he thinks he makes a better IPA than any commercial brew out there, then HE DOES! He is the one drinking it.

It wouldn't surprise me in the least if many homebrewers like their own brew better than commercial. Maybe some of you just haven't made beer that you like very much. Refining a recipe takes a lot of time, but don't hate on the OP just because he took that time and now makes a killer brew.

Is he a ********* because he likes his beer best or because he had the audacity to say so?

 

[Nugent]

My philosophy is that there is a very fine line between arrogance and self-respect.

The OP has straddled that line and has become the subject of a debate on which side of the line he's more firmly on. Personally, I was raised to present myself confidently, but humbly. I wouldn't have ever expressed myself as he did; if you do you, pretty much, open the door to criticism. That being said, if the OP has a thick skin and can handle the critiques, so be it.

My two bits.

BTW: Freeman - great handle! Ah, Half-Life. When is HL2:E3 gonna come out?

 

[Dr_Gordon_Freeman]

BTW: Freeman - great handle! Ah, Half-Life. When is HL2:E3 gonna come out?

I wish I knew! Portal 2 as well...

 

[C2H5OH]

My philosophy is that there is a very fine line between arrogance and self-respect.

The OP has straddled that line and has become the subject of a debate on which side of the line he's more firmly on. Personally, I was raised to present myself confidently, but humbly. I wouldn't have ever expressed myself as he did; if you do you, pretty much, open the door to criticism. That being said, if the OP has a thick skin and can handle the critiques, so be it.

My two bits.

BTW: Freeman - great handle! Ah, Half-Life. When is HL2:E3 gonna come out?

Though I agree, there should be some impartial, objective judging to be had when it comes to the man's brew.(Has it won awards?)

However, I certainly can't hate on the guy just because he perceives his own product to tower over all others. Remember, perception is everything, and I'll leave the rest to the haters.

 

[oldschool]

None of us have the right to tell him he doesn't make beer better than what he buys. Be open minded...maybe he's better than most of us. But i know we all think we are pretty damn good. Papazian, the God himself says that the best homebrew, is by far the best beer in the world. Its in his "The Joy of Homebrewing"

 

[philrose]

I'd just be surprised if he could make rodenbach grand cru better than rodenbach.

So style has a lot to do with it.

Example- maybe the op likes blonde ale. I'd take a fresh, well made homebrew blonde over something comparable in the local brewpub just about any day of the week.

 

[brewmonk]

Joos, proove it.

QUIT BUYING BEER!