I have reached the epitome of beer snobbery

[TheMan]

It's all taste preference. I love IPA's, but I don't like Lagunitas IPA...while someone above said they loved it and thought you couldn't make a better IPA. That doesn't mean it's a bad beer or that it is technically "Better" than anything else. If you think your beer is better then good for you. Not everyone in the world is going to say your beer is better than every other. In the end it only matters to who is drinking it.

 

[springer]

There fixed it for ya. I brew some good beers but there are other brewers and commercial brews that blow me away... get over yourself

 

[TeufelBrew]

Methinks...

EAC!

 

[SpanishCastleAle]

Joos if you really want to get a handle on how your beers stack up, or are particularly masochistic, then enter your beer in a bjcp certified contest. But have a thick skin and also be open to learning something if you open your mind up to the suggestions on the scoring sheets.

I do a couple contests a year. One gets usually over 800 entries...I have no expectation that any of my beers will place in that contest, but I do it anyway. In fact I'm doing the online registration right now.

The HBT competition is right around the corner...and registration for all is open Sunday I think.

 

[creefer]

I'm in between home brews now, letting em sit for a little longer so popped a few Fat Tires and man that is some god brew.
I've made some good beer and hope to get better but man, there are some great beers available..

I less than 3 the Fat Tire!

 

[Edcculus]

Hell, I probably buy MORE beer since I started homebrewing. There's tons of styles to try many of them I am only now reaching out and trying, and different commercial examples within each style.

Thats very true. I doubt I will ever stop buying commercial beer. I can only have 2 styles on tap right now. I can go across the street and have access to dozens of styles from dozens of breweries. Even if I could brew every style as good as the commercial equivalent, I'd still be buying commercial beer.

 

[Sigafoos]

'I thought you started brewing so you wouldn't have to buy any more beer!'

'Well, yes, dear, but...'

 

[IrregularPulse]

I guarantee you aren't brewing every style better and all commercial examples. Maybe you like your pale ale better than Sierra Nevada, but try comparing yourself to Orval, Rochefort, ect. I love belgians but have yet to attempt one. I seriously doubt my attempts will outshine any of these. me thinks you are just drinking Crap Craft brews.

 

[Joos]

wow no replies yesterday now theres 4 pages.Ok let me reiterate.For the styles I LIKE I have brewed over and over again till I get them to the perfect taste for MY tongue.Therefore way better than commercial.It has been mentioned several times although I never said I was the best brewer in the world.I may enter some comps,But I'd rather save my beer for myself and friends/family.AND no one answered my question so I guess the answer is no... I'm the only one:rockin:

P.S. Chill out all you angry posters.Some of you have a lot more experience than me.But when it comes down to beer I like.I bet you I make it better.If you can't say the same..well than..that sucks.

 

[wildwest450]

wow no replies yesterday now theres 4 pages.Ok let me reiterate.For the styles I LIKE I have brewed over and over again till I get them to the perfect taste for MY tongue.Therefore way better than commercial.It has been mentioned several times although I never said I was the best brewer in the world.I may enter some comps,But I'd rather save my beer for myself and friends/family.AND no one answered my question so I guess the answer is no... I'm the only one:rockin:

P.S. Chill out all you angry posters.Some of you have a lot more experience than me.But when it comes down to beer I like.I bet you I make it better.If you can't say the same..well than..that sucks.

That's funny, you originally stated there's NO style you can't make better. Now it's just styles you like. I believe my IPA's are the cat's ass. But i've tasted a few commercially I like better. And yes you will get blasted on this site when making foolish statements.

 

[Moose777]

It's all so subjective to taste right? So yeah, brew and drink what you like. Personally I've gone through 10+ batches now and only a few have been "very good" a few non drinkable and the rest just okay in my opinion.
I've learned I do not like honey weiss or lemon coriander weiss, bleh, but I'm sure there are many who love that.
I have a cherry stout on tap now that I'm really enjoying. Pale ale and amber ale in the fermeneter.
Drink what you got, brew what you like, love what you drink, it all good.

 

[SpanishCastleAle]

AND no one answered my question so I guess the answer is no... I'm the only one

I'm not saying my beer is or ever was better than anyone's but FWIW...when I stopped brewing beer I stopped drinking beer. Now that I brew again I average 2-3 per night. Maybe I just don't like buying beer because I almost never do.

 

[JKoravos]

I cant buy beer and enjoy it anymore.Don't get me wrong there are some great beers out there.But I think there is no style that I cant make better than retail.Am I the only one?I realize I'm coming across as a pretentious ass,but I'm serious.Any other Elitest beer snobs out there?

The call it 'cellar blindness'. Enjoy it.

 

[Joos]

I'm not back peddling dude.Thats what I originally meant and apparently it got misconstrued.And it's not foolish.believe it or not I am a humble person,but brewing to my tastes is why I got into brewing in the first place.And I have accomplished that.Of course there are some beers out there that I don't try to make and I'm sure my first few tries wouldn't compare.Also not everyone on here is a argumentative d!ck.Some of these replies were just peoples honest opinions minus the rudeness.I have drank many different kinds of many different styles before I started brewing, and I have my favorites.NOW my favorites of those same styles are the ones I make at home.I'm open to new beers that I haven't tried before.I think it's funny how I didn't personally attack anyone on here and I have people calling me a ****** bag.Well if you don't like it scr3w you buddy.I was just making an honest statement.To any mods reading I am sorry.I'm not trying to start a fight nor am I usually this rude.

 

[Joos]

sorry that was directed at west.there was a few posts inbetween there while I was typing

 

[wildwest450]

Who called you a name??

 

[user 22118]

I think that if the shoe fits then...don't act like a ********* and people won't think that you are one. A lot of people gave a lot of honest responses. That said, I think that the original post stated a very vague and yet very specific statement.

I cant buy beer and enjoy it anymore.Don't get me wrong there are some great beers out there.But I think there is no style that I cant make better than retail.Am I the only one?I realize I'm coming across as a pretentious ass,but I'm serious.Any other Elitest beer snobs out there?

To me the above original post says that you can brew anything better than the commercial breweries. It doesn't really express what you are trying to say, that you brew the styles of beer that you enjoy more to your taste than most commercial examples. There is also mention of "coming across as a pretentious ass" which most of us agree with.

That said, continue your ranting now.

 

[beerocd]

I believe my IPA's are the cat's ass.

Your IPA's taste like what?
Sorry, never heard it put quite like that.

-OCD

 

[Revvy]

Your IPA's taste like what?
Sorry, never heard it put quite like that.

-OCD

My first thought was the off flavor category "Catty"

(Which is another term for the hops smell/taste like cat pi$$)

 

[XXguy]

Some of my beers match commercial products (IMO) while others don't. It really is a great feeling when you pour a pint of homebrew and can honestly say "that's about as good as it gets!"

+1 Some of my best beer drinking moment's have come comparing a homebrew vs. a commercial beer that I've enjoyed.

 

[Lil' Sparky]

Maybe some of you guys should cut Joos a little slack - especially now that he's clarified his position. Who cares if he thinks he brews the styles he likes better than any commercial example? It would be great if we could all say that, regardless of what anybody else thinks. I and the guys I brew with have the same goal - brew beer that we like, and when it turns out great, then awesome.

 

[Erythro73]

Well, I want this to be clear for me from now on.

I'll soon begin to brew my own brew. My intentions were not to brew the best beer in the world, but rather to learn about the whole process so I can admire more the brewers who crafts my favorite beers and to gain some experience with it. To understand it better.

However, I still intend to do good beers. I know my first ones will probably sucks, but if my beers are always crap, maybe I'll get tired of it. Furthermore, I have my pride and a certain reputation among my friends of being a beer freaks on who they can rely on to discover some new quality beers. So I don't want to serve them something who tastes like... a cat's litter box. I'm not saying I want to brew the best in the world, but I would want to brew some decent beers.

So, what quality can I get from brewing my beers? I understand I can't match the better beers of all style (i.e. Rochefort 10 for belgian ale), but can I have somewhat of a decent beers comparable to many microbreweries? Will it be better than what macros (Bud, Bud Light) do? I must admit I'm not very fond of these beers... So if my beers have the same quality as a Bud Light, I'm better stopping right now the process and spend my money away.

So let's say, on a range going from 1 to 100 (100 being the best brews of a style and 1 being the poorest), around which numbers can I reasonably hope to be?

(Oh, and I know that, even if I start doing some very good beer myself, I'll still continue to try new beers -- there are just too much to drink!)

 

[samc]

What's wrong with a guy who is confident in his brewing abilities? No problems with the OP's post here.

I like Imperial IPA's. Pliny, Ruination & Rouge I2PA are my favorites. What I brew is in my mind the equal of those. Why?, maybe because I made them, they are much cheaper and they don't suffer from transportation & mishandling problems so I have an advantage.

Can I brew every style and be great - I would not even try. I really am at this point thrilled to be making great IIPA's.

 

[Dwain]

I agree with samc. That's the OP's opinion. I brewed a PG Texas Brown Ale for years that I would put against any. Never placed in competition. I made 1 batch of mead and it took 2nd at the same competition. I tried some of the winning browns at 2 different competitions and I didn't care for them. I do buy beer to try the new micros out there. And one thing I've learned, I won't drink another Wit or Hefe (and several others) at gun point. BMC wins medals at competitions all the time, as do the majority of Sam Adams. I don't like the majority of them either. Do I think my beers are better than them, yes. I'm not a beer judge, and while I respect their opinions, I don't always agree. This board is a great source of info and I love the good natured banter but attacking someone or calling them a ********* because you don't agree with them is ridiculous. Ya'll need to check yourselves. - Dwain

 

[HOOTER]

So let's say, on a range going from 1 to 100 (100 being the best brews of a style and 1 being the poorest), around which numbers can I reasonably hope to be?

You can expect to be.....somewhere between 1 and 100.

My point is that you will have some good brews and some bad ones. Even after many years of brewing you can expect some to turn out better than others. Some will blow your mind and others you may be tempted to pour down the drain (don't do it BTW). You'll eventually perfect certain recipes and techniques but you should never expect to be an all around perfect brewer. A big part of brewing is learning and experimenting. A "perfect" brewer no longer has a need for these things and that would just make homebrewing lame and pointless.

 

[weirdboy]

My most recent tripel is just fantastic IMO but it got crushed with a 31 when I entered it in a competition. Although to be fair, it's not exactly to style but it's exactly what I was going for.

 

[Dwain]

Hooter,
I love that sig. I read the link and it's great. I always thought bag toss was bag toss and cornhole was..... well, you know - Dwain

 

[user 22118]

I'll give him some slack, but there is a difference between saying I like the beer I brew because I can make it to my taste and saying I brew better beer than commercial and won't buy commercial beer anymore.

 

[double_e5]

I agree with samc. That's the OP's opinion. I brewed a PG Texas Brown Ale for years that I would put against any. Never placed in competition. I made 1 batch of mead and it took 2nd at the same competition. I tried some of the winning browns at 2 different competitions and I didn't care for them. I do buy beer to try the new micros out there. And one thing I've learned, I won't drink another Wit or Hefe (and several others) at gun point. BMC wins medals at competitions all the time, as do the majority of Sam Adams. I don't like the majority of them either. Do I think my beers are better than them, yes. I'm not a beer judge, and while I respect their opinions, I don't always agree. This board is a great source of info and I love the good natured banter but attacking someone or calling them a ********* because you don't agree with them is ridiculous. Ya'll need to check yourselves. - Dwain

One person used the word *********, not everyone. Why would everyone else need to "check ourselves" for disagreeing?

 

[Kpetersen]

If you can make any style better than any commercial brewery then you should have no problem finding investors to start your own brewery. I expect you to be a millionaire inside of a year if you are the king of every single style of beer. Not only do a not believe you can make better than commercial offerings of every style, I don't believe you can make the best of any one style. This is certainly an attainable goal I think people here would have done, but I'd like to think that skilled a brewer would be humble enough as not to proclaim themselves the king of every style of beer so much so that drinking any other is beneath them.