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so i bought flaked barley, through them in my pantry like a rookie.. lifted the pack up a week or so later and there were little flies.. im talking around the size of the really small fruit flies with wings. they dont look like they fly around at all though. i i cleaned my pantry out, threw away all my open food.. wiped down everything and they came back.... i need some help with this one before my fiance finally ends up killing me.
 
Start looking for a new place to live when she dumps you?

Put everything they like into plastic storage bags & give it time. They should go away eventually.
 
its not like they are big so i can easily find them, their small so their hard to find.
 
"everything they like" food wise. I'm not an expert on what fruit flies like to eat, but if they liked flaked wheat maybe they like flour, cereal, cornmeal, etc.
 
so i bought flaked barley, through them in my pantry like a rookie.. lifted the pack up a week or so later and there were little flies.. im talking around the size of the really small fruit flies with wings. they dont look like they fly around at all though. i i cleaned my pantry out, threw away all my open food.. wiped down everything and they came back.... i need some help with this one before my fiance finally ends up killing me.

That happened with our cereal boxes in the old house.

We built a new one.

Edit: Luckily that was before I started brewing again, so I'm still married.
 
she just wants the damn bugs gone... is their any store bot solutions.. like traps?
 
Fruit fly trap...put a bit of beer or red wine in a glass (1/2" or so is enough). Cover the glass with plastic wrap then poke little holes in the plastic with a toothpick. The flies crawl in to get the drink then can't figure out how to get back out and end up drowning. It seems to work best after the beer/wine has been sitting out a couple of days. You might want to change the glass every few days 'cause it can get kind of disgusting with dead flies, scummy wine, etc. in it.
 
I believe you have the same problem I had once. They could possibly be Weevles. Weevles live in the grain as dormant eggs and then hatch inside the grain. I had this happen to me when I bought a lot of grain from a brew shop that was closing and didnt know this little fact. Their nearly impossible to get rid of inside the grain but of course get obliterated in the boil.

Ive taken the practice of putting my grain in the modified freezer I have and that seems to clear the problem. I think they become active around the 60-80 degree range. Again, dont quote me on this but that was the info I received when I posted this question.

Here's a link to the post.

https://www.homebrewtalk.com/f36/stupid-weevils-grain-beer-132413/
 
Fruit fly trap...put a bit of beer or red wine in a glass (1/2" or so is enough). Cover the glass with plastic wrap then poke little holes in the plastic with a toothpick. The flies crawl in to get the drink then can't figure out how to get back out and end up drowning. It seems to work best after the beer/wine has been sitting out a couple of days. You might want to change the glass every few days 'cause it can get kind of disgusting with dead flies, scummy wine, etc. in it.

Same theory w/ apple cider works wonders. We take a canning jar, poke ~3/32 holes in the lid w/ a nail.
 
Sometimes when they bag it, there is some in there.Nothing you can do
 
Most likely grain weevils. It happens. Between the actual bug, teh larvae, and the eggs embedded under the husk there isn't anything that can be done to eliminate them prior to shipping from the mills.

You, however, can deep freeze your grains for a week or longer to kill off all of the above. I am talking like 0*F for a week at least. Some go so far as to blanket the grain in CO2.
 
she just wants the damn bugs gone... is their any store bot solutions.. like traps?

If they are feeding on dried grain oats etc., then they are not drosophila. Whatever they are, they will also be laying eggs in the carbohydrate food stuffs.

Trapping the adults won't do anything.

Like some one said: Eliminate their food supply.
Get all starch carbohydrate products out of the house in the freezer or double bagged.
They will die out.

In the alternative you could sprinkle Cobalt 60 dust in all your cabinets.
But I think you need a NRC license to get the stuff.
 
my question is what temp, and for how long to mash them? Does anybody have an IBU, or SRM contribution of the little fellas? do they add fermentable sugar, or residual sweetness? what do they add to the wort? Late addition weevles, or mash those suckas?
 
so i bought flaked barley, through them in my pantry like a rookie.. lifted the pack up a week or so later and there were little flies.. im talking around the size of the really small fruit flies with wings. they dont look like they fly around at all though. i i cleaned my pantry out, threw away all my open food.. wiped down everything and they came back.... i need some help with this one before my fiance finally ends up killing me.

Rub white vinegar diluted in a 5-10 parts water to 1 part vinegar solution all over the surfaces. That'll dissuade any bugs from returning and actually is a great home cleaner in general. Granted, it'll smell of vinegar for a bit, but its worth it. Your fiance shouldn't kill you for your mistake. Sounds like weevils or black "flea" beetles to me.. we used to get them inside cereal boxes when we were kids. Sometimes weevils can be big, twice the length of houseflies, but I don't think they have wings.. but they'll leave eggs in your food even if you only see a few and want to pick them out (destroy the evidence). It's a good thing you tossed everything, especially grain related.

As for brewing, I know a story about bugs and maple syrup my mom told me from when she was a lass in Alaska. Her family bought from a certain maple syrup company, old school stuff, for years, until the company switched owners and the flavor wasn't the same anymore. The company realized their sales were going down, and as they hadn't changed the recipe at all, decided to investigate the problem. Well, the only thing they could find different was that when they bought the old company, they went in and cleaned up the plant, making it insect-proof since the old company was so old school they didn't bother to do it themselves. The result? It was the bugs. The simple fact that the new company's same recipe syrup didn't have bugs getting into their sap tanks and dying, being processed along with the sap into syrup, was the key to the flavour change. Cool, eh?

I sound like a Canadian but I'm only half. I grew up in California on the central coast, halfway between SF and LA in a little town called Morro Bay. About 40 miles south of Morro Bay, as the crow flies, is another little waterfront tourist town called Pismo Beach. There you'll find an interesting cafe/candy shoppe, what serves food laced with insects! It's been on the Travel Channel and also the Food Network, because most (if not all?) of its food is quite strange to most people. I've personally had milk chocolate-covered roast mealworms, tequila pops with mealworms and scorpions minus the venom sacs, and dehydrated grasshoppers. They're pretty good. Aside from that particular place, my brother and I were into eating earthworm burgers for a time, and the native snails in that area (the invasive ones, so good on me for eating them!) are actually the official escargot mollusc. There's techniques for preparing/eating them, else you can get sick, so do your research! Bugs in general have about 4 times the protein of steak, and often have complex amino acids. They're very very good for you, and they're usually rich and sweet all to themselves, some especially when they're raw and alive. Man, you wouldn't believe it till you tried it. Don't knock it, either. You can grow your own high-protein burgers in your little sideyard if you like, but you probably won't be able to raise a cow (if you could even afford it). Easy as planting a garden, and great for keeping one healthy, too. :D

My point? I'd use the dang stuff anyway! But that's just me.. :D

Cheers!
~BV
 
If they are feeding on dried grain oats etc., then they are not drosophila. Whatever they are, they will also be laying eggs in the carbohydrate food stuffs.

Trapping the adults won't do anything.

Like some one said: Eliminate their food supply.
Get all starch carbohydrate products out of the house in the freezer or double bagged.
They will die out.

In the alternative you could sprinkle Cobalt 60 dust in all your cabinets.
But I think you need a NRC license to get the stuff.

Try the vinegar.. or google home solutions to the problem if you like. Another place to check would be ThriftyFun(dot)com where the old wives of this computer age post their "Farmer's Almanac"-type solutions to problems. Farmer's Almanac is another great resource.. You're sure to find the vinegar solution in all of these places. Give it a go and good luck!
 
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