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How serious are you about becoming a professional brewer?

  • I'm already a professional brewer.

  • I'm dead set on the idea and have plans to one day.

  • Not sure yet, still considering my options.

  • Not at all, this is just a hobby that I really enjoy.


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Padstack31

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From the brewers I have met it seems that just about every home brewer has, for a moment or many hours, thought about going pro.

Be it inspired by the story of someone in the industry who got his/her start home brewing just like us or maybe it was the rave reviews of friends and family that made us think about it.

So I am curious as to how many members of HBT are really serious about turning this hobby of ours into their full-time profession...

(If you have a sec, please particapate in this poll and maybe even share a bit about how you reached your decision.)

Happy Brewing!

Rick
 
I dream to one day open a brewpub, but I also realize that it's likely to never happen. If it does it would be awesome. If it doesn't, well, I'm still going to keep on trying to make the best beer that I can possibly make.

Either way, it's an amazing hobby that never gets boring for me.
 
My degree will be in Hospitality Business (casinos, restaurants, food and beverage, hotels, etc.) from one of the best in the nation. I plan on getting an internship in a brewery this summer, then getting a full time job in a brewery when I graduate for experience. I have already started reading and planning to open my own brewery one day, but I have a long way to go when it comes to beer brewing.

Hopefully it all works out.
 
My dream has always been to open a restaurant one day. This has been true for years before I started brewing. Now, making the restaurant a brewpub just seems logical! So, my answer is that one day I will be a pro brewer and I am dead set on it.
 
After almost 6 years, I realize I really like making beer. :D Maybe when I retire (12 years to go)...or hit the lottery. ;)
 
When I walked away from Broadcasting/IT to return to restaurant management, I decided that I would either open and run a Nanobrewery/Meadery or manage one for someone else. The stress levels are far less in the service industry -vs- the money trench that is Broadcasting.

Managing a Brewpub is a logical progression for me since I have line cook, kitchen and FOH management experience.
Being able to brew only makes it a better option.

Maybe when the stars align, I will be able to move back to the PNW and find someplace to call home.
 
I have a very long time before I'll be able to change jobs, but I'd like to go to work for a microbrewery, then find a restaurant looking to turn brewpub. I answered C.
 
Just another hobby for me. I have too many hobbies, toys and a wife to make happy. I think I'm pretty much going to be making beer for myself forever... no real expectations here.
 
Being a chemical engineer... going pro interests me. It's like putting some of my skills to cool use, which is better than just good use.

But, I have really no clue how to go about doing so. It seems that it would be a highly competitive thing to go about doing.
 
I have to work for myself so having a brewery would be cool. I would rather hire a master brewer, rather than brew for a living. However, in reality, if I took on a project like that I'd probably have to brew myself for a while. I love it as a hobby, I could even enjoy doing it as a job. Really enjoy it. As long as I'm the boss.
 
A wise old man once told me, "I love *****, but I don't want to be a gynecologist."

This applies to homebrewing. Strictly a hobby.
 
I'm working on retiring early so I can brew 6 months a year and then travel around drinking beer for the other six months...I don't want to brew for a living that sounds like a big PITA.
 
Just a hobby, regardless of my level of obsession. Nothing takes the joy out of something you love like doing it for a living...
 
Oh I am soooo in it for a living it is my driving force in life to open California Brewing Company Redding Brewhouse, then franchise my SIMPLE brewhouse all over Cali. Call me crazy but why not do what you love and make money at it too. Or go broke trying!!!
JJ
 
If and when I stumble upon a huge sum of cash. I'll open up a brew-pub. But realizing this is very unlikely. I am totally OK just brewing as a hobby.
 
My dream has always been to open a restaurant one day. This has been true for years before I started brewing. Now, making the restaurant a brewpub just seems logical! So, my answer is that one day I will be a pro brewer and I am dead set on it.
+1

I've already started a business plan and a financing plan. It will happen some day, and the only question that remains is when.
 
If i came upon the right opportunity i would like to incorporate a brewery with a b&b somewhere in VT.
As for now... it's a wonderful hobby that has introduced me to some really cool people.
 
My current job is a hobby for some. I get paid to sail boats it beats a cubicle, but sometimes the hours are long and the pay sucks... why not turn my next profession into something I love?
 
Sorry, but I really must throw a penalty flag on those who think going pro will ruin their enjoyment of brewing. I'm living proof that it's not necessarily the case. You just have to be smart about it by knowing yourself and the industry.

First, Know Thyself. How much do you love your avocation? What do you love about it? Which do you prefer more: art or science?

Second, Know Thy Industry. You will work long hours. You will endure significant physical labor. You will not have a 9 to 5, 40-hour/week job. Recognize that you'll be brewing the same beer - at least a core of three or four beers - over and over and over.

Some examples of how the "ruin my joy" guys are right:

- If you're a brewer who never brews the same beer twice, no pro-brewing gig will satisfy you.
- If you don't like paying attention to the scientific side of brewing, you'll never do well. Yeast management becomes very important. You need to know what a hemocytometer is and how to use it.
- There is only so much room for "artesinal" and "varietal" stuff - for every Bourbon Barrel Smoked Imperial Scottish Ale you brew, you'll brew fifty batches of Lightweight Training Wheels Light Ale in your brewpub.

For me, the varietal stuff is cool and very rewarding, but the real challenge is achieving consistency without the tools and education an A/B brewmaster has at his disposal. Your Light Ale must taste the same from batch to batch, month in, month out. If you consider that an annoyance instead of a challenge to be overcome, or if you don't see the point in caring about consistency, professional brewing is not for you. Consistency in core brands is paramount to the professional brewer.

Consistency is really, really hard to achieve unless you dedicate yourself to things most homebrewers never bother about. Like malt analysis, figuring AA loss in hops by variety, age and storage characteristics, doing yeast viability studies, water analysis, fluid dynamics, etc.

Why did I write about the Training Wheels Light Ale outselling the Scotch Ale? Because more than 75% - probably closer to 90% - of brewpub customers really don't give a tinker's damn about the beer. You offer them something different, something that's still more than a little trendy that makes them feel sophisticated or at least look sophisticated. They get dragged in by their beer-loving friend(s). Hell, I've dragged groups of a dozen to brewpubs, when I'm the only one who really gives a **** that good beer is brewed on-site! The others might like good beer, but can't be arsed that they're in a brewpub. Do you really think they're going to start creaming themselves over your Bourbon Barrel Scotch Ale? Nope. They're going to opt for something they can wrap their heads round the written description on the menu.

That's turning into a rant. I'm sorry.

All I'm trying to illustrate is that professional brewing isn't for everyone. Frankly, most homebrewers couldn't handle it. Most homebrewers call brewers who seek the skills a pro brewer needs "OCD" or "frighteningly into it". "Uber-beer-geek" is one of my favorites. ;)

Is there room for creativity? Yes! You do have to come up with brands set apart from other brands. At the same time, you have to realize that Honey Hazelnut American ESB is probably not going to be a very successful flagship beer (that is, if you've realized you need a flagship beer!). ;)

At the end of the day, it all comes down to what you consider challenging and "fun". I find solving problems and rising to the challenge of consistency "fun". I find trying to nail a style "fun". I also find "fun" brewing a Smoked Imperial Scotch Ale and putting it in a bourbon barrel! You've got to do all those things to be a successful small-brewery brewer.

Cheers,

Bob
 
Going pro is a good way to turn a great hobby into a JOB. You might still enjoy the job, but you no longer have the option to brew when and what you want. An experiment gone bad can blow the bottom line for the week. My favorite brewer has ten stock ales that are all very good, spot on to style, and as consistent as one can be without the resources of a BMC. But he lives for the seasonals.

[I turned my hobby of programming into 35 years of trying to teach idiots the limitations of IT.]
 
Going pro is a good way to turn a great hobby into a JOB. You might still enjoy the job, but you no longer have the option to brew when and what you want. An experiment gone bad can blow the bottom line for the week. My favorite brewer has ten stock ales that are all very good, spot on to style, and as consistent as one can be without the resources of a BMC. But he lives for the seasonals.

[I turned my hobby of programming into 35 years of trying to teach idiots the limitations of IT.]

At the risk of being flippant, it IS a job. As you've illustrated, you go from "Well, if it's that screwed up I'll dump it" or "So what if that Oud Bruin ties up a carboy for 18 months? I'll buy another fermenter" to "My God, that's $1200 in malt, hops and yeast down the drain!" and "I need the tank space, so we're going to go from 21 days to 14 days for ales". Your priorities change. Where before you were brewing for yourself, and if your audience didn't like the beer you'd drink it yourself, now it's a business and you've got to brew for customers and you're brewing waaaaay too much to drink it yourself!

Yes, that has drawbacks, most of which have been pointed out in this thread. But there are positives, also:
- walking into the pub after a hard day out in the brewery, and listening to a couple of beer geeks digging your beer
- doing a beer festival and having people tell you, unsolicited, how much they love your beer
- having doctors, lawyers and merchant chiefs be jealous of you and your job (how delightfully naive of them!)

It all balances, at least in my mind!

Bob
 
Of course it will be work, but unless I hit the lottery I'm going to have to work anyway! Why compound the obligation of working with the punishment of doing something you don't love? Pro obviously isn't for everyone, but I also don't think going pro mandates that brewing become a drag. I'm keeping my options open - never say never! :D

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:mug:I imagine there is quite a bit of difference between brewing great ale in a 6 gal. bucket and brewing enough to keep a brewpub in business. It's a great pipe dream but it would take a lot of time and training. I want to do other things besides make beer.
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I'm blown away, almost 1000 people have viewed this in the 5 days... yet still looking for that 200th response...lets keep those votes coming...

As for me, once I realized it was possible to combine my education and work experience with my favorite hobby I was hooked. I've been dead set on opening my own place ever sense.

What can I say, I'm just a blue collar boy in a white collar world...
 
Perfectly happy to brew for myself and a friends who care to partake. trying to turn this into an income would take the fun right out of it.
 
Probably. Still considering options. It definately won't be until I retire. I'm counting on my old roomate to make it big and become an investor. With my expertise and his capital (later down the road), I think I could open a kickass brewpub.
 
Might own a brewery. This way I can help brew with the brewmaster or just get a beer when I want. :mug:
 
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