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Today I tested the FG on the strong Scotch ale that I brewed last weekend using 11 month-old yeast (from which I made a starter, of course.) It is excellent! I started fermentation at 64 F, and then let it rise to 70 F to finish, with no off flavors detected. The yeast finished active fermentation about three days after pitching. This beer reached terminal gravity a full week faster than the batch made from this same yeast one year ago. No yeast "washing", just 16 oz of slurry stored in a jar in the back of my fridge. No cold crashing or decanting the starter. When it was ready I pitched the whole thing. This is my house method and it works well, even with light lagers like Munich Helles. YMMV.
 
@keninMN Hey that's great! Just reinforces how hardy those little buggers can be. I decanted and pitched my final 3L starter of 4-month old WLP-830 yesterday morning and it's happily bubbling away this morning at 51F. Time will tell how it works out but so far so good. Cheers!
 
@keninMN Hey that's great! Just reinforces how hardy those little buggers can be. I decanted and pitched my final 3L starter of 4-month old WLP-830 yesterday morning and it's happily bubbling away this morning at 51F. Time will tell how it works out but so far so good. Cheers!


They certainly are hardy but vitality and viability/pitch rate shouldn't be confused with one another.
 
Seems to me that being strong and active is certainly a prerequisite to being able to work successfully. Their ability to work successfully drives pitch rate, right. Anyhow, I am impressed with the fact that yeast can sit in the fridge for such long periods of time and then fairly easily be brought back into working order. Very cool.
 
Seems to me that being strong and active is certainly a prerequisite to being able to work successfully. Their ability to work successfully drives pitch rate, right. Anyhow, I am impressed with the fact that yeast can sit in the fridge for such long periods of time and then fairly easily be brought back into working order. Very cool.


The yeasts ability to work effectively is vitality.
Viability are the cells that are still alive that can be brought back to a vital state.
Pitch rate is the number of vital cells you are putting to work in your wort relative to the volume.
If you revitalize an old sample of let's say 50 billion cells in 1-2 liters of starter wort and you double or even triple (optimistic) your cells numbers you end up with 100-150 billion cells.
If you pitch that into 5-5.5 gallons of 1.065 wort that your desired pitch rate said you needed 300 billion cells you are under pitching your beer by half or more.
Now since what you did pitch is at a high vitality the result of you under pitching may be subtle but include:
Elevated levels of off flavors (maybe or maybe not to the taste threshold)
Reduced levels of the flavors and aromas you were expecting the yeast to contribute to your beer (if your brewing a beer with a relatively neutral yeast flavor/aroma profile or the Malt/Hop are to dominate this may not be of a concern).
Accelerated mutation or drift from what the yeast was designed to perform like (attenuation levels, alcohol tolerance and flavor/aroma characteristics) which should ultimately reduce the number of generations you harvest.
It's obvious the yeast can take a beating and they will make beer even in a less than ideal environment or state but if you plan to harvest multiple generations or you believe pitch rates can help you make a better product then it may be worth consideration.
 
Nearly a month later and the beer has been lagering for about a week now. It finished at 1.011!
 
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