Houston, TX Group Buy

[stevebuscemi]

Well I can understand not having faith in the commercial buy but I see no reason why we could not contact Ray at brew it yourself and atleast get a slight discount. Wish Josh would reply on here, his PM's are sadly full.

 

[senordodo]

Guys, I'm just now getting back into brewing after a long hiatus of about 10 years and just now getting my hardware built back. First batch of hefe just came off but not very good, have some equipment adjustments to make, anyway, nothing in the pipeline yet. I've noticed some of the other successful group buys start with a price sheet and then a series replies with the user and his order. each reply copies the previous order list and adds or adjusts his until the total needed is reached. I haven't seen any of that type organization in this thread. Josh was pretty motivated a few months ago but I believe without an organized method of building the order list or a verified grain source and published price sheet this thing was destined to fall apart. If anyone can verify a source and publish a price sheet and we organize like other group buys have done it may have a chance.

 

[Joshaw50]

I cannot upload the PDF because it's 2 MB in size. The company is Country Malt Group. Same company that the majority of other Group Buys use. Why don't we start a new count because the on-going count is probably useless now. It's been going on for several months. At times, it gets no attention. And at times, it gets a lot of attention. Some people are canceling, some people are wanting to add hops, grains, bottlecaps, ect in a string of different emails. If everyone could make up their mind with one single post starting today on what they'd like to purchase, it would be much more clear. I'm pretty sure we're close to 40 bags. I travel about 90% of the time and don't have the ability to check this on a daily or sometimes even weekly basis. If someone else would like to take over this thread, that is fine with me. I'm still in for a couple bags of grain. I'll be glad to pass on the PDF to anyone's email address but I do not have capabilities via homebrewtalk since my inbox is continually full since I'm only allowed 5 messages total. I don't think Country Malt Group Publishes this price sheet online. I received it through customer service phone number.

 

[1234]

Let me help you guys out a bit, 42 sacks of grain fit on a pallet. Unless you are buying 11lb of each variety the pricing isn't the best around. You can buy grains, DME, LME, and chemicals. I have done 4 buys through CMG and they do make some mistakes, so you have to stay on top of everything. If you guys have any questions feel free to PM me, I get like 25,000 PM's.

 

[1234]

I hope this helps you guys.

http://www.countrymaltgroup.com/downloads/NC On-Line 2011 (22211).pdf

 

[stevebuscemi]

Awesome glad to see this is progressing, before I list what I want is there a specific company we want to buy the grain from like only the Great Western company on the pdf, as to get a greater discount or should we choose from any of the companies?

 

[1234]

As long as you buy from MSG it doesn't't help to just buy from one company.

 

[stevebuscemi]

Ok I'll take 1 BZ-PILS, 1 BD-MOPA, 1 CM-2ROW and if anyone wants to split wheat or munich from them and from Baird I could split some of their carastan.
If we need more in the end I can always add a bag or two, I'm really wanting to get this done, as you can tell.
Also could buy some caps if anyone else want too.
Oh and thanks 1234

 

[1234]

A great way to help fill the pallet is do a lot of speciality malt splits. Crystal malts are also nice to have on hand.

 

[stevebuscemi]

I just PM'd everyone(except regulation his inbox is full) that was interested with the .pdf. Lets gets some cheap grain.

 

[isurf]

I just PM'd everyone(except regulation his inbox is full) that was interested with the .pdf. Lets gets some cheap grain.

Steve I recieved your PM, sent you one but there was an error msg. I would like a sack of 2-row if possible. Thanks

 

[stevebuscemi]

Ok I'm not actually ordering just trying to get people active. There's a couple options for the 2-row but the canadian is what I want because its the cheapest at $.49/lb and it comes in a 55lb bag. You could also get the american for $.57/lb in a 50lb bag. Let is know the specific company you would like it from, so Joshaw50 can place the order later.
My inbox is empty so feel free to PM me again if you want.

EDIT: My numbers might be a little high because I quoted the largest price, I think our price would be in the 2,000lb price so might be a few cents less on both.

 

[kingwood-kid]

OK I'll try again I guess...

I will take 2 sacks of Canadian 2-row (CM-2ROW) and one of Rye (CM-RYEM). If someone else is interested in splitting the Rye, maybe we could add in a sack of rice hulls (GP-RICE).

 

[isurf]

Ok I'm not actually ordering just trying to get people active. There's a couple options for the 2-row but the canadian is what I want because its the cheapest at $.49/lb and it comes in a 55lb bag. You could also get the american for $.57/lb in a 50lb bag. Let is know the specific company you would like it from, so Joshaw50 can place the order later.
My inbox is empty so feel free to PM me again if you want.

EDIT: My numbers might be a little high because I quoted the largest price, I think our price would be in the 2,000lb price so might be a few cents less on both.

pM sent

 

[stevebuscemi]

And isurf wants 1 sack of Canadian 2-row( CM-2ROW). That's at least 8 sacks right now.

 

[calebawilson]

I would be in for a couple of sacks if it was more organized and I could see some prices.

 

[stevebuscemi]

I guess I missed you with the PM's here is the price sheet. I'm going to PM it to you as well. http://www.countrymaltgroup.com/downloads/NC On-Line 2011 (22211).pdf

 

[soopagloo]

Fawcett Maris Otter, Fawcett Golden Promise, Great Western 2 Row, Gambrinus Munich Light, and Gambrinus Pilsen.

Would also be interested in splitting some black malt, crystal 40, or just about anything else.

1 TF-GPRM
1 TF-MOPA
1 GW-2ROW
1 GB-PILS
1 GB-MUNH10

 

[calebawilson]

How are the payments for grain going to be done? What is the shipping price per sack?

 

[1234]

You guys seem to have a lot of questions about how to get this done, let me help out just a little. Don't buy hops with your grain, how many people are going to want the same type of hops? To get the price for hops that was in the spreadsheet you have to order 11lb's of that variety of hop. Shipping worked out to just a little over $2 a sack for us, not sure where you grain would be shipped from. If you do order 1 pallet of grain the prices you need to look at are the 2,000-4,000 prices. You do not have to fill the pallet to have it shipped to you. PBW and Star San are priced really cheaply when you buy the PBW in a 50lb pail and the Star San in the 4 one gallon case.

If anybody has any questions please feel free to PM me.

 

[senordodo]

1-CM-2ROW
1-CM-WHET
1-GP-RICE (Rice Hulls)

 

[schaez]

If we can order a pallet this is what I'd be interested in.

3 bags - CM 2-Row
3 bags - CM Pilsen
1 bag - CM Munich
1 bag - CM White Wheat
1 bag - Fawcett Maris Otter
1 bag - Great Western Crystal 40
1 bag - GP Rice Hulls

 

[1234]

1-CM-2ROW
1-CM-WHET
1-GP-RICE (Rice Hulls)

You will never be able to use all of the rice hulls by yourself, I would suggest finding somebody to split the sack with. I took a fourth of a sack and will have enough rice hulls for 5 years.

 

[stevebuscemi]

So we're making alot of progress. Joshaw50 started the thread and is probably a better option to order the grain because I live in Galveston and doubt yall would want to drive an hour or longer to get your grain.
Group buys I've seen get to the required amount and then the person placing the order sends out receipts to the buyers who pay usually through paypal but could also be check or money order. Then once delivered you simply pick it up from him. I am capable of ordering it, I suppose, but again doubt that would be the preferred option.
So far here is the count:
Stevebuscemi - 3 (1 BZ-PILS, 1 BD-MOPA, 1 CM-2ROW)*
kingwood-kid - 1 (1 CM-2ROW)*
isurf - 1 (1 CM-2ROW)
soopagloo - 5 (1 TF-GPRM, 1 TF-MOPA, 1 GW-2ROW, 1 GB-PILS, 1 GB-MUNH10)*
senordodo - 2 (1 CM-2ROW, 1 CM-WHET)
schaez - 10 (3 CM-2ROW, 3 CM-SPIL, 1 CM-MUNH, 1 CM-WHET, 1 TF-MOPA, 1 GW-C40)
mredge73 - 4 (1 CM-SPIL, 1 CM-2ROW, 1 CM-WHET, 1 CR-DEXTR50)
ashford - 1 (1 CM-2ROW)
rca - 3 (1 CM-2ROW, 1 CM-SPIL, 1 CM-MUNH)
javabrewer - 2 (2 GW-2ROW)
Ravenshead - 2 (2 CM-2ROW)
Regulation - 2 (1 CM-PALE, 1 BD-MOPA)

Split bags:
Stevebuscemi/soopagloo - 1 (1 BD-CRSN)
stevebuscemi/ashford - 1 (1 BZ-DMUN)
kingwood-kid/senordodo/schaez/mredge73 - 1 (1 GP-RICE)
kingwood-kid/senordodo - 1 (1 CM-RYEM)
stevebuscemi/senordodo - 1 (1 BZ-VIEN)
rca/ashford - 1(1 VIEN?)
Current total:42 bags.
* indicates possible splitting.

Second Pallet(Possibly?):
vallensons: 8 (5 CM-2ROW, 2 TF-MOPA, 1 GW-C40)

Current total: 8 bags.

 

[stevebuscemi]

Yeah schaez and senordodo do yall want to split that bag of rice hulls? If not thats fine with me just let me know so I can get the total right.
I will continually edit the list above when more people add more, so check that post for the current total.

 

[kingwood-kid]

Yeah schaez and senordodo do yall want to split that bag of rice hulls? If not thats fine with me just let me know so I can get the total right.
I will continually edit the list above when more people add more, so check that post for the current total.

I think we can safely split these GP-RICE Hulls 3 ways and have plenty for everyone.

 

[mredge73]

When do you think this buy will go down? What is the minimum order for each individual?
How long do they keep in Houston's environment?

I do not have my mill yet but I would still like to get a bag of 2-row, a bag of wheat, and a bag of pilsner in anticipation. (I can take some of those rice hulls if you are still looking to split)

1 CM-SPIL
1 CM-2ROW
1 CM-WHET

 

[stevebuscemi]

There isn't really a minimum, I suppose it would be a split bag. I'm hoping to have the buy happen in like two weeks, but really its whenever we have enough people. I'm really uninformed of the specifics of ordering but hopefully joshaw50 knows more about that.
I have heard self life for grain is like a year uncrushed in a dry, dark, and cold place. I haven't kept bags longer than a few months. What I do is put the whole bag in a huge ziplock bag thats for storing clothes or something.
I'll add you to the list, and I guess I'll just have one bag of rice hulls and y'all decide who's splitting it.

 

[ashford]

Sign me up for one bag of CM-2ROW. Also willing to split a bag of Munich with someone too.

Plus - if any of you Sugar Land or SW Houston folks want to get together for a brew session, drop me a PM! My brewing buddy moved to far North Houston. A 1.5 hour drive each way on a brew day is too much!

 

[stevebuscemi]

Alright I'll add you, would you be interested in splitting a Best bag of munich? I've never tried munich so was figuring I would try a real German type. Its $.57 compared to .$50 for canadian but my feeling is your never gunna get grain this cheap might as well get some good stuff. Let me know.