Hot Fermenting Questions, 90 deg ?

[WileECoyote]

Hello Tiredboy, I saw your Location after I posted my last reply, Im guessing there isn't any home brew shops there ether.

I dont think that there is a dry saison yeast, at least I haven't seen any yet, Ill look this weekend if I get some extra time, maybe ask on this forum ?

Cheers

 

[iambeer]

I wouldn't bother with a swamp cooler unless you check it at least twice a day to add ice, etc (what a pain). I use a swamp cooler to lower the temperature by 5-8 degrees without using ice or a fan but my starting temp is 70. In your seat I would do what the Old World did: don't brew during the summer. Or buy the modern refrigeration apparatus.

 

[Justintoxicated]

You will want a chest freezer and temp controller, maybe even a second one to age or condition the beer in.

I know cause I'm in SoCal and although it is not nearly as hot, I have no AC so my indoor temps are often 85-90 as well, and no basement.

Costco has a decent Haier chest freezer for sale 7.1 cuft. expect to spent $50-80 for the temp controller. I wouldn't bother fermenting in that heat, the actual fermentation temp will be above your ambient temperature.

 

[WileECoyote]

Hello, all I can say is, Belgian Saison Yeast Ideal Temperature Range (°F) 70-95F, No Ice needed, No chest freezer needed, summer brewing at its best, mine has been in a swamp cooler without ice for 6 days now, holding its temps at 79 to 82 deg, checked quite often, my house is at 85 to 87 all day.

I age and condition my brews in a large ice chest's with about 4" of water in them, it only takes one to two 32oz frozen bottles of water per 24hrs to keep my bottles at 70 deg, yes swamp cooler bottle conditioning works great too.

Justintoxicated you are right I would need 2=7.1 cuft chest freezers (1 for fermenting/1 for conditioning) @ $200.00ea + 2 controllers @ lets say $69.00ea on sale, for a grand total of $538.00 thats way more disposable income than I have right now, so I will be fermenting HOT BREWS.

I would really appreciate responses about Hot Fermenting Questions, 90 deg ?

Thanks

 

[jonmohno]

It would be a good idea to invest in a chest freezer/temp controller.Az is too warm to brew regular ales.Its a good idea if you plan on brewing alot,if not then your making belgian style funky beers mainly. A swamp cooler will work but too me in that climate,the chest freezer will give relief for regular consistant brewing. Bottle conditoning may be another issue as well if you plan on long term storage,because you want to keep them around 70 to carb and after that a cooler temp(or cellering) is good for long term storage.
Woops looks like it was already posted,sorry for a repeated response. Swamp cooling will cheaply keep you going,unless you brew so much and get tired of it,its about as hard as(not even) brushing your teeth 3 times a day.

 

[WileECoyote]

I live in Jamaica and shipping liquid yeast is not an option.

Hello Tiredboy, I did a google search for hot fermenting yeast and another for dry saison yeast for sale and came up with this.

Copied from Northern brew site.

chriscose

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Fri Jul 11, 2008 12:21 pm
T-58 dry yeast for a saison?
I recently really started to enjoy saisons, and considering I never brewed this style I thought it time to give it a try. I have T-58 already and was wondering if anyone has experience or an opinion on the use of this yeast in a saison.

If T-58 wouldn't be a good yeast for a saison, what style would it lend itself more towards. I figure I have it I might as well brew something with it...


Denny

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Fri Jul 11, 2008 12:39 pm
As dry yeasts go, that's about the best choice for a saison. Not exactly the right thing, but will not suck either. If you want to go liquid, Wyeast 3711, which was just released as a VSS, is a great saison yeast.
Life begins at 60....1.060, that is.

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Also copied from Northern Brew site.
Safbrew T-58 Ale Yeast
A specialty ale yeast selected for its estery, somewhat peppery and spicy flavor. This yeast forms a solid sediment at the end of secondary fermentation, and is therefore widely used for bottle and cask conditioning. Optimum temp: 59°-75° F

Also S-33 dry yeast was mentioned.

I know the fermenting temps are lower than you are looking for, but at least its a Dry Yeast and kinda saison results.

Ill look again for any dry yeast that can ferment at 85 to 90 deg, when I have more time.

Hope this helps

Cheers

 

[jonmohno]

I made a hefe with t-58, and a belgian pale ale with s-33.Both turned out great with a 66-68 deg. ambient summer basement temp. I had issues with a saison i did with t-58 mainly because i splitt yeast packs for small batches and think that those yeast may be more vaunerable to become carriers of wild yeast easier because opening the pack and using it again after sealing and storing it over a few week-month period. Other than that ive splitt and stored regular ale yeast packs like o5 and nottingham without a problem. That beer ended up better with some more age on it but i think saisons are suppose to age longer anyway.