Hop Burst/Late Hopping Vs. Shorter boil for Session IPA

[Muckdog]

Looking to brew a session IPA this weekend and I'm just wondering if there is any difference between a hop burst and a short boil (30 minute boil or so)? To me it seems like the same thing? If not, what's the difference, and what would you guys recommend for a session IPA of the two methods? Not sure of the hops yet. Thanks in advance

 

[brewmeister13]

Hop Bursting is adding a lot of hops at the end of the boil. It really doesn't matter if you boil for 30 minutes or 300, the hop bursting at the end would be the same. If you are talking about adding hops and boiling them for 30 minutes, that's a completely different story. That would result in mostly bitterness and very little hop aroma or flavor.

 

[Gravity]

keep a 60 min boil and make your first additions at 30min, then go heavy on hops at 15, 10, and 5 - great aroma and flavor

 

[IslandLizard]

You could boil for 30', that's considered a short boil, since the standard is 60' (Ale malts) or 90' (Pilsner malts).

You can add hops any time you want in that schedule, even all after flameout (hopstand, whirlpool), and still get some bitterness. If you want more than 20-40 IBU you're better off adding a (bittering) hop earlier in the boil, though.

 

[STMF]

You could boil for 30', that's considered a short boil, since the standard is 60' (Ale malts) or 90' (Pilsner malts).

This was posted in the extract forums so the boil times are not really important.

Personally I would do a 15-30 min boil and do hop additions at (30)-15-5-0.

 

[IslandLizard]

This was posted in the extract forums so the boil times are not really important.

Personally I would do a 15-30 min boil and do hop additions at (30)-15-5-0.

Oops! Sorry, didn't look at the posted forum.

5-30 minute boil is fine then.

Hop schedule above is good. I would add a 30' hopstand (stir well every 5 minutes) with 1-2 oz of hops after flameout, when the wort has cooled down to 180-170F, to pack more flavor into the beer.

Since it's an IPA, it also needs dry hops. Add 1-2 oz of the hops you used in the late boil additions, 5-7 days before packaging.

 

[Muckdog]

I've done 30 minute boils before. I meant I was't sure about the types of hops I'll be using. My question I guess was really is there any difference in a 60 minute boil where I don't start adding hops until 30 minutes or just a 30 minute boil?

 

[kh54s10]

I've done 30 minute boils before. I meant I was't sure about the types of hops I'll be using. My question I guess was really is there any difference in a 60 minute boil where I don't start adding hops until 30 minutes or just a 30 minute boil?

You are boiling the hops for the same amount of time so the bitterness will be close. But, I would say that the beers would be similar but NOT the same. The difference would not be from the hops so much as the time boiling the wort.

 

[Muckdog]

You are boiling the hops for the same amount of time so the bitterness will be close. But, I would say that the beers would be similar but NOT the same. The difference would not be from the hops so much as the time boiling the wort.

Which do you think would produce better results? I've liked the 30 minute boils that I've done before and I'm assuming boiling for 30 minutes before adding hops will create a more malty flavor in the end product

 

[kh54s10]

Which do you think would produce better results? I've liked the 30 minute boils that I've done before and I'm assuming boiling for 30 minutes before adding hops will create a more malty flavor in the end product

I have no idea... It would really come down to personal preference. I doubt there really is a better.

I was just saying that they will be different. How much different is a guess.

 

[Muckdog]

I have no idea... It would really come down to personal preference. I doubt there really is a better.

I was just saying that they will be different. How much different is a guess.

Right. I may just stick to a 30 minute boil and save the other for another time