BeerPressure
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I know a lot of people that homebrew, but few brew great beers.
Homebrewing too popular???
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Wait, is the rant about not being "special"?
It reminds me of a friend who prefers to do the things that others can't. As soon as someone else does it as well, he drops the hobby and moves on to something else.
Thankfully, homebrewing is still challenging to me. And there is still some equipment that I have not bought or built yet. I don't see this ending anytime soon!
It reminds me of a friend who prefers to do the things that others can't. As soon as someone else does it as well, he drops the hobby and moves on to something else.
Thankfully, homebrewing is still challenging to me. And there is still some equipment that I have not bought or built yet. I don't see this ending anytime soon!
motobrewer
I'm no atheist scientist, but...
i'm surprised with how many people homebrew in my area.
we moved in October, i had my one neighbor over and showed him the keezer.
"oh, you homebrew? so do I!"
other neighbor:
"what are you drinking?"
"well, I make my own beer"
"oh, my brother does that."
other two neighbors have either friends or family that homebrew. not that i wanted to be special or have a problem with it, I just didn't think it was as big as it is.
we moved in October, i had my one neighbor over and showed him the keezer.
"oh, you homebrew? so do I!"
other neighbor:
"what are you drinking?"
"well, I make my own beer"
"oh, my brother does that."
other two neighbors have either friends or family that homebrew. not that i wanted to be special or have a problem with it, I just didn't think it was as big as it is.
FromZwolle
I don't want to be cremated, I want to be malted.
That's me! I'm so not cool. But maybe I'm trying to be. The problem is that I'm always late for all the cool stuff. By the time I realize it would be cool to ____________, the fad is over.
I totally missed out on Birkenstocks, 8-track players, pot smoking, and cell phones. By the time I tried any of those things, it was no longer "cool" and everybody was onto other things. I still don't have a cell phone, besides a pay-as-you-go tracfone.
Or, maybe I'm not trying to be cool. I really don't care what people think so I have no one to impress.
I'm so uncool that maybe I'm cool. Um, no. I'd say not.
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It's alright. you're cool by association. and those who are truly cool buy into a fad only after it has gone completely dead. you have to be lame and not give a crap to be punk rock. :rockin:
that being said. i think the increasing popularity of homebrewing is great. sure there may be a few thousand 'brew temps' out there, but the demand for brewing supplies that they create are making it easier/cheaper for all of us to get supplies/equiptment closer to home. i just found a new source for grain/yeast/etc two minutes from my job. thats a win all day long.
No matter what you're into, there will always be someone that rubs you the wrong way. just wait em out, they'll be gone soon enough.
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//RANT//
Maybe I'm just an unfriendly *******, but I sorta miss the days when I could tell a group of people I was a homebrewer and get nothing but a bunch of half disgusted stares. Now it seems like every fratboy and hipster either homebrews or claims to know enough about it to tout himself as an authority on the topic. When did homebrewing become soo trendy all of a sudden? It's not that I want homebrewing to be some type of selective club, I just don't want it to become some meaningless, blase activity that is associated solely with the likes of those ****** canoes who care to blog about their new ipad or Ray-Bans.
It's like food. It used to be fine to cook nice things and enjoy them in anonymity. Now some a**hole makes a pot roast and feels impelled to blog it all over the freaking interwebs and provide snide commentary on how special it is; as if the world never saw a pot roast before. Beer is not wine, it is not cigars, or fancy cars. It's worth as a product and hobby should not be determined by how unique it is, or how many ****** line up to buy a bottle of it, or how many ****** use it as a launching pad for their own pitiful egos.
Homebrewing doesn't need tv shows with cheerleader sam calagione telling everyone how cool beer is, or magazines telling you your beer sucks because it wasn't made by monks or touched by vestal virgins; or organic hops that will help save the whales, and other nonsense. I brew beer because I want to and enjoy doing it, not because I care about the latest fad or how cool it will make me look. I brew beer, I drink beer, and I think our hobby's future would be better off it's popularity rested in brewing beer rather than allowing some **** to live their life "vicariously" through it.
(and If I offended you... too freaking bad!)
//End Rant//
It's alright. you're cool by association. and those who are truly cool buy into a fad only after it has gone completely dead. you have to be lame and not give a crap to be punk rock. :rockin:
that being said. i think the increasing popularity of homebrewing is great. sure there may be a few thousand 'brew temps' out there, but the demand for brewing supplies that they create are making it easier/cheaper for all of us to get supplies/equiptment closer to home. i just found a new source for grain/yeast/etc two minutes from my job. thats a win all day long.
No matter what you're into, there will always be someone that rubs you the wrong way. just wait em out, they'll be gone soon enough.
[/QUOTE]I usually hate when stuff get's too trendy that I am into, but I have to realize it was far less popular before I got into it as well at some point. More popularity means more businesses which helps us all. If you don't like all the blogs and stuff, why are you hanging out on blogging sites to be reading them? There is the good side of the internet that gives us access to so much info, then there is the good side of personal freedom that gives us the choice to not look at something that bothers us.
The good thing about the DB's that you speak of homebrewing is that most will do it for a while, then jump to the next trendy activity and the hobby will be left with a few that are really interested in the hobby and maybe 1 less person for you to complain about ordering BMC in the bar the next time.
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I got to disagree too. If you love a hobby and you are in mixed company then bring it up and there are people to have a good discussion about then how is that bad. I find it worse when I bring up a subject and no one knows anything or has any interest and it dies immediately.
spriolo
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I'm normally to think to drunk about it. Have another one bro!
I agree with the OP.
Any of you f*ckers that joined the forum after 2006 need to pack up your stuff and get the hell out of here.
Any of you f*ckers that joined the forum after 2006 need to pack up your stuff and get the hell out of here.
I agree with this statement.
OP: Why is it you are hanging out with hipsters and fratboys? Why are you reading their blogs and then getting mad about it?
I agree with the OP.
Any of you f*ckers that joined the forum after 2006 need to pack up your stuff and get the hell out of here.
No Farking way!!! I'm not leaving!!!
Besides, as much as I've only been here a little while, I've been brewing for almost 20 years...
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I agree 100%. HomeBrewing is too popular.
It was much nicer brewing kit and kilo beers since malted grain was inexistant to general consumers. And becoming legalized? Over rated. the steam taht filled the room behind closed doors was perfect for opening up those pores.
Don;t even get me started on how ludicrous it is to actually use design specific product inetended for beer. I much prefer the quiet strolls through the woods looking for the right herbs to bitter with. And really miss the hallucinations.
It was much nicer brewing kit and kilo beers since malted grain was inexistant to general consumers. And becoming legalized? Over rated. the steam taht filled the room behind closed doors was perfect for opening up those pores.
Don;t even get me started on how ludicrous it is to actually use design specific product inetended for beer. I much prefer the quiet strolls through the woods looking for the right herbs to bitter with. And really miss the hallucinations.
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My god, this thread is still kicking?! I should have just titled the thread "Homebrewing becoming a Fad?" and ended it there.
to the OP:
I treat it sort of the same way I treat religion . . . I do what I do, dont give a rats ass what others think and dont bring it up unless they ask. If they do ask and I reply and they tell me I'm wrong I just keep doing what I do and enjoy it and put them in the "F*ck off" bin. If I honestly want thier opinion I'll ask other wise who gives a sh!t about'em?
I treat it sort of the same way I treat religion . . . I do what I do, dont give a rats ass what others think and dont bring it up unless they ask. If they do ask and I reply and they tell me I'm wrong I just keep doing what I do and enjoy it and put them in the "F*ck off" bin. If I honestly want thier opinion I'll ask other wise who gives a sh!t about'em?
Scooterkdavis
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come to think of it christianity is getting way too populair, it was cool back in the day when me and Jesus would kick it solo, but now all these other ******s claim to be touched by jesus it makes our relationship seem so shallow. I just wish people would just stop doing the stuff i do because im unique and that is the only thing that makes me feel like im better than other people.
Another +1
I am trying to perfect my brewing, any help is much appreciated. I see young brewers that have a better grasp and help me all of the time. In the first days of our great nation, most of the time, if you didn't help brew you were not drinking.
So brew on America, brew on world! And throw a little advice my way.
coolitamigo
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hmmm, anytime I tell someone about brewing beer it always seems I am boring them. My girlfriend and dad are the only ones that seem to like listening to my ramblings(aside from this forum).
alias
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Blame the hipsters.
vicratlhead51
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I had a similar experience only most of the people who said they tried it said their beer turned out nasty. So I figure when I pass em a beer I made that tastes good then I can get a little smug. On a related note when some one says they tried to make a bud clone but it tasted terrible is it ok for me to ask if they were suprised?
Dammit! This thread started when I was away so I didn't get to post any of my angry rant pics, like
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Beer Drinker
and yet you found a way...
Frankfurtvr4
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//RANT//
Maybe I'm just an unfriendly *******, but I sorta miss the days when I could tell a group of people I was a homebrewer and get nothing but a bunch of half disgusted stares. Now it seems like every fratboy and hipster either homebrews or claims to know enough about it to tout himself as an authority on the topic. When did homebrewing become soo trendy all of a sudden? It's not that I want homebrewing to be some type of selective club, I just don't want it to become some meaningless, blase activity that is associated solely with the likes of those ****** canoes who care to blog about their new ipad or Ray-Bans.
It's like food. It used to be fine to cook nice things and enjoy them in anonymity. Now some a**hole makes a pot roast and feels impelled to blog it all over the freaking interwebs and provide snide commentary on how special it is; as if the world never saw a pot roast before. Beer is not wine, it is not cigars, or fancy cars. It's worth as a product and hobby should not be determined by how unique it is, or how many ****** line up to buy a bottle of it, or how many ****** use it as a launching pad for their own pitiful egos.
Homebrewing doesn't need tv shows with cheerleader sam calagione telling everyone how cool beer is, or magazines telling you your beer sucks because it wasn't made by monks or touched by vestal virgins; or organic hops that will help save the whales, and other nonsense. I brew beer because I want to and enjoy doing it, not because I care about the latest fad or how cool it will make me look. I brew beer, I drink beer, and I think our hobby's future would be better off it's popularity rested in brewing beer rather than allowing some **** to live their life "vicariously" through it.
(and If I offended you... too freaking bad!)
//End Rant//
Um,
I started to be intersted after a boss I had a few years ago started inviting us to his house to try brews he was entering in competion. When I finally had the time and space I started this year. (Other than a bad batch out of an old Mr. Beer kit.) Sorry if my and others recent starts in this hobby offends you so badly. I was not aware we were required to fill out an application to send to you before we started on our extract kits which I also learned in this thread offends others.
drummerguysteve
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I think the extra people are a huge plus. It's great to actually be able to find a group of people that can get together and trade brews, and talk about the different things they want to try without everyone in the room getting board.
People who aren't homebrewers don't want to hear about what SMaSH you're going to do next, and they don't typically care what types of hops you used, or whether you dry-hopped. They definitively don't care what temperature you fermented at, or what yeast you used. The larger amount of people involved in brewing at home is allowing us all to talk about it, and as a whole, create better brews.
Also, I'm pretty sure that if you go back about 150-200 years, you'll find that most brewing was done at home. Of course, they didn't have a LHBS....
People who aren't homebrewers don't want to hear about what SMaSH you're going to do next, and they don't typically care what types of hops you used, or whether you dry-hopped. They definitively don't care what temperature you fermented at, or what yeast you used. The larger amount of people involved in brewing at home is allowing us all to talk about it, and as a whole, create better brews.
Also, I'm pretty sure that if you go back about 150-200 years, you'll find that most brewing was done at home. Of course, they didn't have a LHBS....
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Wow, just read this entire post and I have to say I agree with both sides of the argument (to some extent).
Yes, it is awesome that so many people have taken an interest in the hobby we all love. I personally have turned 10 people onto home brewing and set up the home brewing section at the local co-op. There was no place local to get supplies so I talked to the manager and got her to invest a significant amount of money into the section. Then I started teaching some classes and it seems like we have a nice little brewing community going on here.
On the flip side, I think the internet has in fact made too many people experts, and there is really no checks and balances. This site is different in the fact that if you post misinformation you can dam well bet someone will call you on it. I had a student of mine decide after 3 batches of beer that he was an expert and he did not want to come to our group brews and our meetings anymore (he didn’t want to share his recipes) seriously! I have people at the local brew pubs telling me all this "stuff" about the beer that I'm drinking. Most of the time I just don't have it in me to tell them they are full of __it. Had a wine and beer expert in N.Y. ( a friend of a friend) tell me my Rodenbach was sour and "there must be something wrong with it".
So yeah it may be the hip "thing" but you have to look at it with an open mind, and ignore those who make you mad. Relax, don't worry. Have a homebrew!
Yes, it is awesome that so many people have taken an interest in the hobby we all love. I personally have turned 10 people onto home brewing and set up the home brewing section at the local co-op. There was no place local to get supplies so I talked to the manager and got her to invest a significant amount of money into the section. Then I started teaching some classes and it seems like we have a nice little brewing community going on here.
On the flip side, I think the internet has in fact made too many people experts, and there is really no checks and balances. This site is different in the fact that if you post misinformation you can dam well bet someone will call you on it. I had a student of mine decide after 3 batches of beer that he was an expert and he did not want to come to our group brews and our meetings anymore (he didn’t want to share his recipes) seriously! I have people at the local brew pubs telling me all this "stuff" about the beer that I'm drinking. Most of the time I just don't have it in me to tell them they are full of __it. Had a wine and beer expert in N.Y. ( a friend of a friend) tell me my Rodenbach was sour and "there must be something wrong with it".
So yeah it may be the hip "thing" but you have to look at it with an open mind, and ignore those who make you mad. Relax, don't worry. Have a homebrew!
Ok, it's late, but what the hell. I am "Mr. Johnny Come Lately" I've only been learning to brew since 06... notice I said I've only been learning to brew... Yet, in my short education I have seen at leased a dozen friends and relatives fork over the cash to try and give it a shot. Most of them have let the fad fade away like parachute pants on a 80's breakdancing wanna be...
The point is most of them still talk about me like I actually know something, like I'm best buds with Charlie or something... It's not my knowledge, it's just that I'm the guy they know who stays consistent.. I've yet to enter into comp... I've yet to lager... I brew ales, and most are drinkable... But these guys walk into the brewshack and see the abortion that is my rig, taste my beer and conclude that I must know what I'm talking about....
If it's getting popular, that's a good thing... for one, I'm the guy who can "put to use" the gear they purchased before they failed... free beer gear is always good. Two, I get a steady stream of "I want you to try my beer" 6 packs... 50/50 on good/bad beer. And Three... I've met some good friends through this and regardless if they still brew, they always manage to keep in touch.
As far as all the ****** bags blogging away on their Ipads??? well that's more of an indictment on Blogging.... now that's become WAY to f'n popular... Really, I don't give a sh!t about your pot roast...
//semi-rant off//
The point is most of them still talk about me like I actually know something, like I'm best buds with Charlie or something... It's not my knowledge, it's just that I'm the guy they know who stays consistent.. I've yet to enter into comp... I've yet to lager... I brew ales, and most are drinkable... But these guys walk into the brewshack and see the abortion that is my rig, taste my beer and conclude that I must know what I'm talking about....
If it's getting popular, that's a good thing... for one, I'm the guy who can "put to use" the gear they purchased before they failed... free beer gear is always good. Two, I get a steady stream of "I want you to try my beer" 6 packs... 50/50 on good/bad beer. And Three... I've met some good friends through this and regardless if they still brew, they always manage to keep in touch.
As far as all the ****** bags blogging away on their Ipads??? well that's more of an indictment on Blogging.... now that's become WAY to f'n popular... Really, I don't give a sh!t about your pot roast...
//semi-rant off//
I don't see what the complaint is here. If he thinks he's an expert after 3 batches, you probably don't want his recipes anyway...
Steelers77
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I was just expressing how some think they are instant experts, give them a book and they have all the knowledge in the world. Just thought it was weird for someone to act in such a way.
drummerguysteve
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I think those people who become "experts" in the first year probably don't end up brewing long anyway. How much undrinkable brew can you really consume before you just give up?
Steelers77
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Dam skippy!
