Homebrewing Service?

[dogtailale]

Now this is just me and my thoughts only.

If I think its illegal or could it be illegal, than more than likely it is.
Yes I am a bit of a gambler. Vegas, reno, lose 10,000 no big deal I can get that back.
Try too get your time back.
NO DOLLAR AMOUNT IS WORTH ONE MINUTE IN JAIL.

 

[Yooper]

Then why is this allowed?
https://www.homebrewtalk.com/f38/10-10-10-bgs-swap-sign-up-details-193541/
Just asking.

I'm not sure what your point is? No one is selling/donating for charity/etc.

Anyway, there are tons of threads on here about people who have tried to think of ways to circumvent the laws. We're all grownups here, and we all make choices. If you choose to do something that isn't legal, I'd assume that you wouldn't post about it on the internet.

 

[user 19629]

I'm not sure what your point is? No one is selling/donating for charity/etc.

Anyway, there are tons of threads on here about people who have tried to think of ways to circumvent the laws. We're all grownups here, and we all make choices. If you choose to do something that isn't legal, I'd assume that you wouldn't post about it on the internet.

I wasn't trying to make a point, I was just asking a question
I guess I misunderstood.
You said,
"Selling/bartering/donating/accepting donations/etc for homebrew is usually illegal."
So swapping homebrew for homebrew is legal buy not swapping home brew for something else?
Also this from Revy's post
"In fact Bartering of alcohol of any type is illegal, period, even for licensed retailers."
Like I said just asking.

 

[stageseven]

Bartering is trading goods or services for other goods and services. Trading a beer for someone else's beer is not the same, because they are the same good. So basically yes, as I understand it swapping homebrew for homebrew is not illegal, but swapping homebrew for grain, a wort chiller, or having a guy fix your roof would be.

 

[PanzerBanana]

What about looking into how onsite brewing works? They basically provide people with the equipment and space to brew their beer. Then they come back to bottle it and take it home. The "shop" doesn't actually do any of the brewing.

I looked it up but can't remember how it works.

 

[jgln]

I was thinking how this is like masturbation. It is perfectly legal to do it to yourself but as soon as you pay someone to do it for you it becomes illegal.

 

[Revvy]

I was thinking how this is like masturbation. It is perfectly legal to do it to yourself but as soon as you pay someone to do it for you it becomes illegal.

Except in Las Vegas, and evidently Canada now.

 

[Homercidal]

I was thinking how this is like masturbation. It is perfectly legal to do it to yourself but as soon as you pay someone to do it for you it becomes illegal.

Wait, what? When did this happen?

Do they consider it cheating now too?

 

[jpc]

I was thinking how this is like masturbation. It is perfectly legal to do it to yourself but as soon as you pay someone to do it for you it becomes illegal.

...unless you are filming a movie...

 

[ISLAGI]

Back on point for a moment....

AFAIK, this is legal. There is a Wine/Homebrew shop in SE Michigan that has individuals sign up to buy 5 gallons of their wort - whatever the style of the month is - and then let them know when they will be brewing.

They sell a 5 gallon container of wort, and will also sell the individual any yeast, fermenters, bottles, or whatever else they need. It is all legal because they only sell sugar water, not alcohol.

When I first read the post, I immediately thought the OP was more or less proposing a BOP setup. Never used one myself, but I believe that some of them will help you brew then provide the yeast, and a place for you to store the beer while it is fermenting, then provide the space and equipment to bottle.

 

[jgln]

Back on point for a moment....

AFAIK, this is legal. There is a Wine/Homebrew shop in SE Michigan that has individuals sign up to buy 5 gallons of their wort - whatever the style of the month is - and then let them know when they will be brewing.

They sell a 5 gallon container of wort, and will also sell the individual any yeast, fermenters, bottles, or whatever else they need. It is all legal because they only sell sugar water, not alcohol.

When I first read the post, I immediately thought the OP was more or less proposing a BOP setup. Never used one myself, but I believe that some of them will help you brew then provide the yeast, and a place for you to store the beer while it is fermenting, then provide the space and equipment to bottle.

Right, you can't pay them to do it for you but can pay them to provide the space, the utilities, the tools, the supplies and the instruction but you have to brew it. For them it is hands off (no pun intended) once it starts to create alcohol. That is how I understand it.